Superboy Prime (/w/ Power Armor) v.s. These Heralds · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
And Surfer doesn't turn to either the keeper or uni-surfer.
Exactly what I was getting at.

But the threadstarter, didn't argue with anyone who brought any of these points up.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Maybe not the entire group at once, but any one of them that gets close can certainly be one shotted. Outside of SS, most heralds are trash.

Morg?
Plus, I'm certain it's going to take more than one punch to take them down.
Or are you forgetting what happened when Conner fought SBP?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Except Thanos has hundreds of feats to discredit this.
Superboy Prime, has a short lesson, of fighting those kinds of beings.
Yes his strength and speed feat far far exceeds Thanos and Thanos owns heralds without problem.

I was bringing up that Spiderman was able to knock him back.
You using MM as pis.
I don't see how Spiderman compares to MM.
But yet you use him as a pis comparason.

I was saying that Thanos has hundreds of feats to discredit the Spiderman feat.

How many showings does SBP have to discredit MM?

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Yes his strength and speed feat far far exceeds Thanos and Thanos owns heralds without problem.

So does ODin , Galatus ..... i don't see them Speedblitz

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If you put all those heralds vs everyone that SBP fought at once, they would be owned.

You've said that already. I asked you a question, you can reply in this thread, or the other.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If you put all those heralds vs everyone that SBP fought at once, they would be owned.

A, B, C, it's easy as 1, 2, 3.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
If you put all those heralds vs everyone that SBP fought at once, they would be owned.

The STANDARD versions would, sure. But I think these same heralds would hold their own at their best(Uni Surfer, WOL Morg).

kgkg Vigilante

Originally posted by darthgoober
The STANDARD versions would, sure. But I think these same heralds would hold their own at their best(Uni Surfer, WOL Morg).

Uni SS dude normal SS whould beat SBP .... Uni Power > Qband..... With Q-band SS was near Galactus level.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
The STANDARD versions would, sure. But I think these same heralds would hold their own at their best(Uni Surfer, WOL Morg).

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Validus Senior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Uni SS dude normal SS whould beat SBP .... Uni Power > Qband..... With Q-band SS was near Galactus level.

Not really. He overpowered a weakened G. At best he was Skyfather level.

Avalonofthewind Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by bigbran
But the threadstarter, didn't argue with anyone who brought any of these points up.

He also didn't state the Keeper or Uni Surfer.

Originally posted by bigbran
Morg?
Plus, I'm certain it's going to take more than one punch to take them down.
Or are you forgetting what happened when Conner fought SBP?

You mean that Conner was in critical condition the 1st time and was killed the second?

Originally posted by bigbran
I was bringing up that Spiderman was able to knock him back.
You using MM as pis.
I don't see how Spiderman compares to MM.
But yet you use him as a pis comparason.

You want to use Conner as a frame of reference. Spidey is just as good.

Originally posted by bigbran
I was saying that Thanos has hundreds of feats to discredit the Spiderman feat.

It still happened. By your logic all feats should be forgotten because of a weaker character getting a good hit in.

Originally posted by bigbran
How many showings does SBP have to discredit MM?

Let me see MM punch out of dimensions, the darkness, retcon people, take out multiple gl's, rearrange the planets, etc...oh and the fact that SBP owned him more than once and while fighting multiple opponents.

Stupid Rookie Senior Member

Originally posted by kgkg
Uni SS dude normal SS whould beat SBP .... Uni Power > Qband..... With Q-band SS was near Galactus level.

I thought that when surfer had the quantum bands it was in an alternate universe? Is that Cannon. When he had those he had enough power to feed Galactus!

Avalonofthewind Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by darthgoober
The STANDARD versions would, sure. But I think these same heralds would hold their own at their best(Uni Surfer, WOL Morg).

Exactly what I've been saying.

The thread started specifically said the heralds at their best, not WOL Morg, or Keeper.

I stated a long time ago that the heralds would win, but because SBP isn't the best strategist on the block.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Exactly what I've been saying.
The thread started specifically said the heralds at their best, not WOL Morg, or Keeper.
I stated a long time ago that the heralds would win, but because SBP isn't the best strategist on the block.

Look, Galan7777777(the thread starter), has posted on this thread SINCE Uni Surfer was brought up, he did say that he didn't think about that, but he never took away the option, so it IS Uni Surfer we're talking about.

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Let me see MM punch out of dimensions, the darkness,

Which clearly shoots him right up to Skyfather level.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
retcon people,

How many times have you brought up the retcon punch now while continually saying: I'm not bringing up the retcon punch.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
take out multiple gl's,

Yes, lots and lots of jobbing GLs that thought they were all Jubilee.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
rearrange the planets, etc...oh and the fact that SBP owned him more than once and while fighting multiple opponents.

Yes, planet moving strength was clearly shown in his inability to elude Earth's heroes to "destroy the universe".

Asked a question. Still no answer.

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He also didn't state the Keeper or Uni Surfer.

This could go on and on, until he comes in, so we shall leave this blank.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You mean that Conner was in critical condition the 1st time and was killed the second?

Conner stated he wasn't trying the first time.
The second time, he got good shots in, but it wasn't exactly SBP who killed him.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You want to use Conner as a frame of reference. Spidey is just as good.

Thanos has a good track record...in fights!
How about we discredit the Spidey feat right now.

Ooops, how did that get there....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
It still happened. By your logic all feats should be forgotten because of a weaker character getting a good hit in.

Nope, but when one character has taken hits on a skyfather range, most of the time.
And then he takes one shot by Spides, and get rocked, you have to wonder...

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Let me see MM punch out of dimensions, the darkness, retcon people, take out multiple gl's, rearrange the planets, etc...oh and the fact that SBP owned him more than once and while fighting multiple opponents.

But Thanos has a fighting history.
Most of those feats never happened during fights.

Lets look at how he did, in his vs career, shall we?
Took down the Teen Titans, after taking some hits by Superboy.
Gets punched by MM, that effects him.
Gets taken to the Speed Force by the Flashes.
Gets hit around by, Conner, and Conner ends up killing himself. ( he did beat Wonder Girl during that fight, though)
Gets beat by 2 Superman's. Got forced through the Red Sun.
etc.

His fighting record doesn't look like it holds up.

Oh, he does all that, but then all of the sudden, he takes down a couple GL's.

Before you get all " he's stronger than Thanos"
I know, he is, but that's not the point.

All I have claimed is that, He's not one punching Surfer. And Unilord Surfer is beating him by himself.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Which clearly shoots him right up to Skyfather level.How many times have you brought up the retcon punch now while continually saying: I'm not bringing up the retcon punch.Yes, lots and lots of jobbing GLs that thought they were all Jubilee.Yes, planet moving strength was clearly shown in his inability to elude Earth's heroes to "destroy the universe".
Asked a question. Still no answer.

What about the Fact that SBP was able to Actually Beat the flashes in the Speed Force? That has to say something of his true power. I seriously dont' think the Heralds would last years in the Speed Force Fighting all those Flashes. The heralds are only gonna win becuz they would see him wince at a red star or at wave length of energy that is close to red star energy, cosmically sense that fear and then depower him. I dont 'think SBP is meant to be beaten with Physical Force while he's fully powered. Or at least it seems that way. Harolds 6/10 due to Energy manipulation and Cosmic senses.

nvrbeenwthagirl Restricted

Originally posted by bigbran
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Gets beat by 2 Superman's. Got forced through the Red Sun.
etc.Surfer is beating him by himself.

I must interject here. He didn't get beaten by Two Superman. He was beating One superman and One PRECRISIS superman. He got depowered by getting tricked into a red sun. Just thought I would add those two things in there. Wouldn't want to confuse the facts.

xmarksthespot CEO, BS Comics

The limit of exposition of what happened to him in the Speed Force was "I got out".

It was a Superman from before Crisis. It wasn't "PreCrisis Superman".

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I must interject here. He didn't get beaten by Two Superman. He was beating One superman and One PRECRISIS superman. He got depowered by getting tricked into a red sun. Just thought I would add those two things in there. Wouldn't want to confuse the facts.

I'm pretty sure everyone knows what happened.
I didn't write them down in order.
He got forced through the red sun.
Killed one Superman.

Then he got beat by one Superman...happy?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I must interject here. He didn't get beaten by Two Superman. He was beating One superman and One PRECRISIS superman. He got depowered by getting tricked into a red sun. Just thought I would add those two things in there. Wouldn't want to confuse the facts.

Wouldn't the other two Supermen have been dopwered too(I'm honestly just asking, I haven't read the issue)?

bigbran Dead

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The limit of exposition of what happened to him in the Speed Force was "I got out".
It was a Superman from before Crisis. It wasn't "PreCrisis Superman".

Exactly!!