Superboy Prime (/w/ Power Armor) v.s. These Heralds

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The limit of exposition of what happened to him in the Speed Force was "I got out".

It was a Superman from before Crisis. It wasn't "PreCrisis Superman".

Um, When did there become this distinction of PRECRISIS kryptonians people all of a sudden want to make? NONE of the kryptonians who were shown on panel were any weaker than any other. HE was a PRECRISIS superman and Superboy was owning him and the post crisis superman at the same time.

As far as the speed force thing goes, I'm not talking about him getting out. I'm talking about the fact that he was able to stalemate all of those flashes in the speed force. That would be like trying to fight dozens of SUperman in a universe made up of yellow sun energy.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Wouldn't the other two Supermen have been dopwered too(I'm honestly just asking, I haven't read the issue)?

Originally posted by bigbran
I'm pretty sure everyone knows what happened.
I didn't write them down in order.
He got forced through the red sun.
Killed one Superman.

Then he got beat by one Superman...happy?

Yeah at that point, he was a regular teanager, fighting a man in his 50's and a man in his late 20's early 30's. He was gonna get his ass beat by clark at that point.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, When did there become this distinction of PRECRISIS kryptonians people all of a sudden want to make? NONE of the kryptonians who were shown on panel were any weaker than any other. HE was a PRECRISIS superman and Superboy was owning him and the post crisis superman at the same time.

As far as the speed force thing goes, I'm not talking about him getting out. I'm talking about the fact that he was able to stalemate all of those flashes in the speed force. That would be like trying to fight dozens of SUperman in a universe made up of yellow sun energy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, When did there become this distinction of PRECRISIS kryptonians people all of a sudden want to make? NONE of the kryptonians who were shown on panel were any weaker than any other. HE was a PRECRISIS superman and Superboy was owning him and the post crisis superman at the same time.

As far as the speed force thing goes, I'm not talking about him getting out. I'm talking about the fact that he was able to stalemate all of those flashes in the speed force. That would be like trying to fight dozens of SUperman in a universe made up of yellow sun energy.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"Precrisis Superman" pulled powers out of his ass - and this Superman wasn't that Superman. You call him "a PRECRISIS Superman" as if it really means a whole lot.

Plus, wasn't he depowered anyway?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um, When did there become this distinction of PRECRISIS kryptonians people all of a sudden want to make? NONE of the kryptonians who were shown on panel were any weaker than any other. HE was a PRECRISIS superman and Superboy was owning him and the post crisis superman at the same time.

FYI, the only Flash left with power was Bart.

Originally posted by bigbran
No he wasn't!!
Because if he was PC Supes, then he technically wouldn't exist, as we would be talking about him in the past tense.
You see?

And that.

Plus, wasn't he depowered anyway?

Wait, he didnt exist. he was only saved becuz he was inside that krystal place. He was a time anomoly. He wasn't depowered. Wasn't he the one who actually punched thru the reality barrier? That is saying a WHOLE lot about his Precrisis Strength lvl.

Originally posted by Validus
Actually no buddy. DC Editorial said in a few interviews tha Kal-L was depowered from his planet moving PC level.

FYI, the only Flash left with power was Bart.

I dont' even think you even read what I said. Superboy prime was fighting the flashes in the Speed Force. They all have thier powers there at UBER lvls. bart was the only flash left on earth who still was connected to the speed force. Every one else lost thier connection or was dead. And Dc editorial also says WW is 2nd only to Superman in strenght. DC editorial means what here in the Forums? And I want to see where DC says that Kal=L was depowered. I dont' think he even was given much attention after the original crisis.Kal-L Punched thru the Reality wall that set them all free. His strength was that of a precrisis Kryptonian.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' even think you even read what I said. Superboy prime was fighting the flashes in the Speed Force. They all have thier powers there at UBER lvls. bart was the only flash left on earth who still was connected to the speed force. Every one else lost thier connection or was dead. And Dc editorial also says WW is 2nd only to Superman in strenght. DC editorial means what here in the Forums? And I want to see where DC says that Kal=L was depowered. I dont' think he even was given much attention after the original crisis.Kal-L Punched thru the Reality wall that set them all free. His strength was that of a precrisis Kryptonian.

War is not the ANSWER

Originally posted by bigbran
I don't even think you read what you said.
He was talking about PC Superman, not Flash.

He did talk about the flash. he said that bart was the only flash with his powers left. he misunderstood my point about SBP being able to fight off all those flashes while in the speed Force. I hit both points that he was talking about. PC superman and the Flashes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
He did talk about the flash. he said that bart was the only flash with his powers left. he misunderstood my point about SBP being able to fight off all those flashes while in the speed Force. I hit both points that he was talking about. PC superman and the Flashes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' even think you even read what I said.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Superboy prime was fighting the flashes in the Speed Force.

Did you even read Infinite Crisis?

Prime was tossed on a planet with a red sun by the Flashes and trapped there until he somehow escaped. Fighting? What fighting?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
They all have thier powers there at UBER lvls. bart was the only flash left on earth who still was connected to the speed force.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Every one else lost thier connection or was dead.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Dc editorial also says WW is 2nd only to Superman in strenght. DC editorial means what here in the Forums?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And I want to see where DC says that Kal=L was depowered.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' think he even was given much attention after the original crisis.Kal-L Punched thru the Reality wall that set them all free. His strength was that of a precrisis Kryptonian.

Originally posted by Validus
I'd like to know how you got that considering I replied directly to your statements. I swear, you dodge certain shit better than Wally West dodges bullets.

There was no fighting. They were not even in the Speed Force. My turn to question you.

Did you even read Infinite Crisis?

Prime was tossed on a planet with a red sun by the Flashes and trapped there until he somehow escaped. Fighting? What fighting?

Again, they weren't in the Speed Force. Wally even said it right before he disappeared. Barry told Bart it wasn't the Speed Force.

You got one right.

Means plenty. I've never denied that. What I have said is that DC Editorial also says Superman and Captain Marvel are equal. 🙂

I'll dig up the interview later. What they said was that all Supermen were depowered. The only reason SBP was so powerful was because Alex boosted him with his own energy.

How much strength does it take to crack, not punch through, but crack a "reality wall"? When you get the answer, let me know.

I have a question, How come SBP was fighting Flashes on a red sun and not in the speed force and then bart says SBP escaped from the speed force. and then SBP even says it later on. A couple times. he got scared of bart becuz of being trapped in the speed force. and didn't he mention in the end of the crisis that he escaped the speed force, he can escape the lanters prison as well? maybe I'm wrong. I could have sworn he fought the flashes for Years inside the speed force. which is why bart aged. maybe i'm wrong.

SBP said he was kept under red sun light for years (his words). In other words, time travel, which explains Bart's aging.

Okay, question for the Superboy guys,

Have you actually read what Morg w/WOL and Uni Surfer did?

Nothing but Galactus himself could touch Morg. The other heralds were like bugs to him.

You mean that Conner was in critical condition the 1st time and was killed the second?

Let me see MM punch out of dimensions, the darkness, retcon people, take out multiple gl's, rearrange the planets, etc...oh and the fact that SBP owned him more than once and while fighting multiple opponents.

What about the Fact that SBP was able to Actually Beat the flashes in the Speed Force? That has to say something of his true power. I seriously dont' think the Heralds would last years in the Speed Force Fighting all those Flashes. The heralds are only gonna win becuz they would see him wince at a red star or at wave length of energy that is close to red star energy, cosmically sense that fear and then depower him. I dont 'think SBP is meant to be beaten with Physical Force while he's fully powered. Or at least it seems that way. Harolds 6/10 due to Energy manipulation and Cosmic senses.

Um, When did there become this distinction of PRECRISIS kryptonians people all of a sudden want to make? NONE of the kryptonians who were shown on panel were any weaker than any other. HE was a PRECRISIS superman and Superboy was owning him and the post crisis superman at the same time.

As far as the speed force thing goes, I'm not talking about him getting out. I'm talking about the fact that he was able to stalemate all of those flashes in the speed force. That would be like trying to fight dozens of SUperman in a universe made up of yellow sun energy.

I dont' even think you even read what I said. Superboy prime was fighting the flashes in the Speed Force. They all have thier powers there at UBER lvls. bart was the only flash left on earth who still was connected to the speed force. Every one else lost thier connection or was dead. And Dc editorial also says WW is 2nd only to Superman in strenght. DC editorial means what here in the Forums? And I want to see where DC says that Kal=L was depowered. I dont' think he even was given much attention after the original crisis.Kal-L Punched thru the Reality wall that set them all free. His strength was that of a precrisis Kryptonian.

How much strength does it take to crack, not punch through, but crack a "reality wall"? When you get the answer, let me know.

Also as far as speed goes once Surfer and Nova flew so fast they travelled in time. So they can speedblitz him right back.

Heres a good speed feat.

What is that? Like a couple seconds?
If you read the first panel, you'll understand.

Thank you bigbran!

Silver Surfer can travel fast enough to go threw time he did it to show Nova what the planet she was about to feed to Galactus used to be like.

Now imagine that speed behind the power Morg had with the WOL.

Superboy Prime dies worse then Superboy.