You guys need to get of Flash's penis. He can not defeat everyone like that. Gladiator would kill him in one blow when he finally landed it. You guys overestimate Flash and the don't look at the actuality of how his powers would really work. He is not God. He is a man, and all those things he may be capable of, he has no lucidity or control over. Gladiator can do just the same thing(considering he can go at light speed as well), but he won't because there's no use in doing those things. According to everyone's logic, Flash would beat Galactus by hitting him with 'the force of a black hole,' but that's just rubbish. Flash is not in control of those kinds of powers and none of the characters that are light speed are. If Flash tried to do that he'd probably kill himself instead. Grow up guys. Flash is not all powerful. Gladiator slaps him in the head and knocks it off. Gladiator wins 100/1.
Originally posted by superman41082Oh, I know why, it's because Glads is supposedly equal to Supes, and you don't think Flash has a chance against him.
You guys need to get of Flash's penis. He can not defeat everyone like that. Gladiator would kill him in one blow when he finally landed it. You guys overestimate Flash and the don't look at the actuality of how his powers would really work. He is not God. He is a man, and all those things he may be capable of, he has no lucidity or control over. Gladiator can do just the same thing(considering he can go at light speed as well), but he won't because there's no use in doing those things. According to everyone's logic, Flash would beat Galactus by hitting him with 'the force of a black hole,' but that's just rubbish. Flash is not in control of those kinds of powers and none of the characters that are light speed are. If Flash tried to do that he'd probably kill himself instead. Grow up guys. Flash is not all powerful. Gladiator slaps him in the head and knocks it off. Gladiator wins 100/1.
Originally posted by bigbran
Oh, I know why, it's because Glads is supposedly equal to Supes, and you don't think Flash has a chance against him.
Dude..... I'm just sick of the nearly dogmatic opinion on this forum of Flash winning. Dude..... Flash is really not that imposing. He's fast and with that speed he can do lots, but never does. Gladiator is light speed also and could do all that stuff, too, but he never does either. This contest would simply come down to who would do the most damage with some hits and Flash would get a few on him before Gladiator could get one on him(maybe), but Flash's metabolism will eat him away without refueling and he'll whither. Gladiator will slap him and Flash will die. That's it. I'm so sick of this Flash is god mentality around here. It's quite irritating.
o.k. ........................
what do you mean he has no control over it??
you do know he has thrown savatar and super-boy prime into the speedforce right? you do know that he (wally west) can easily time travel by entering the speedforce and re-emerging from it, as all time is basically stopped?? gladiator would never be able to land that "one" blow. before even thinking of landing that one blow, he'd of felt thousands of infinte mass punches to the scrotum.
flash 100/1
Originally posted by great_dane
o.k. ........................what do you mean he has no control over it??
you do know he has thrown savatar and super-boy prime into the speedforce right? you do know that he (wally west) can easily time travel by entering the speedforce and re-emerging from it, as all time is basically stopped?? gladiator would never be able to land that "one" blow. before even thinking of landing that one blow, he'd of felt thousands of infinte mass punches to the scrotum.
flash 100/1
I first want to say, I love Wally West. 2nd, yes I know about lots of the stuff he's done, but this is where Flash loses his charm, and I just don't even pay attention to that nonsense. This to me is simply bad writing. Superman, in the 78' movie made all of time go backwards, but that doesn't mean that it's accepted that he can do that. It doesn't have any consitency with the character. This is like saying that Flash can defeat all characters anywhere because of bad writing. First of all, Flash is a man, and we know that as a man, his body is effected from his powers. We know this because of his super high metabolism. He doesn't even have to run for his metabolism to be high. If he isn't really moving, but still has to eat 2,000 hamburgers/day just to keep from starving to death, try and tell me how running at the speed of light, or fast enough to go into this speed force and travel back in time, or hit someone a million times in his scrodum is possible without him wasting away into nothing. The math there is just unbelievable. How many calories would he have to sustain. The way I see it, Flash would have to be one of the weakest characters there is because he has to do so much just to keep fat and muscle on his body. All this stuff he does just seems way too far-fetched in thinking about the actuality of his abilities. This is a retarded debate. If Flash even tried to run at half the speed of light, which is at least what he'd have to do to fight Gladiator, he'd run himself into oblivion. Gladiator wins. This just doesn't seem possible that the character could ever do those things. It also doesn't seem interesting. It's cool that he could run faster than anyone can see, but running back into time and all that just seems boring and improbable. It takes away credibility from his character.
Originally posted by great_dane
the flash now gets his power from the speedforce, he doesnt need to stuff his body with carbs for energy anymore. he simply gets his energy from the speedforce.
Yes, he does the speed force thing, but he still has to stuff his body. He does it all the time in the comics. Oh yeah and we should change the title of this forum from the vs forum to 'Flash wins.'
omg.
like i said, wally retains all his energy from the speedforce, he pulls energy from it, he doesnt need to stuff his body with carbs and calories.
this would explain the race to the end of galaxies he had with superman.
and im saying, even if glad could move at speeds of light ( i know he can, i'm just saying) wally would steel it. he has been known for steeling the speeds of entire planets, once doing this, glad wouldnt have to be fast nor strong. he would simply be motionless and he would viabrate through his body. or send him whirling away through the speedforce
Originally posted by superman41082
I first want to say, I love Wally West. 2nd, yes I know about lots of the stuff he's done, but this is where Flash loses his charm, and I just don't even pay attention to that nonsense. This to me is simply bad writing. Superman, in the 78' movie made all of time go backwards, but that doesn't mean that it's accepted that he can do that. It doesn't have any consitency with the character. This is like saying that Flash can defeat all characters anywhere because of bad writing. First of all, Flash is a man, and we know that as a man, his body is effected from his powers. We know this because of his super high metabolism. He doesn't even have to run for his metabolism to be high. If he isn't really moving, but still has to eat 2,000 hamburgers/day just to keep from starving to death, try and tell me how running at the speed of light, or fast enough to go into this speed force and travel back in time, or hit someone a million times in his scrodum is possible without him wasting away into nothing. The math there is just unbelievable. How many calories would he have to sustain. The way I see it, Flash would have to be one of the weakest characters there is because he has to do so much just to keep fat and muscle on his body. All this stuff he does just seems way too far-fetched in thinking about the actuality of his abilities. This is a retarded debate. If Flash even tried to run at half the speed of light, which is at least what he'd have to do to fight Gladiator, he'd run himself into oblivion. Gladiator wins. This just doesn't seem possible that the character could ever do those things. It also doesn't seem interesting. It's cool that he could run faster than anyone can see, but running back into time and all that just seems boring and improbable. It takes away credibility from his character.
you knwo, youve made three very very good points.
And i have always wonderd this.
If flash is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fast, (rather, i realize he "is"😉
Why isint he just dominateing in the DC universe?
I mean, IF gladiator is capable of traveling at light speed ( i dont know much about gladiator) , like someone said before, its not too far fetched to assume that he has a chance of winning this fight.
Unfortunately, flash has degenerated into a PC supes like state. It sounds more like bad writeing than cool superpowers.
I think the last straw was flash saving those people off the island from taht nuke. Comic or not
that
was
Toony
Tom & Jerry type stuff.
Flash's so-called abilities are junk and based on bad writing. So why doesn't Flash just end all crime on earth? He could run around day and night, since he doesn't need to stuff the calories, and he's bound to find some criminal every second, since he can cover the entire earth probably 4 times over in a second. Then he could just stop all the crime and there's no need for a DC universe ever again. It will be happy land from then on.
Stealing speed is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Flash isn't even a character at that point. He's worse than Galactus.
Originally posted by ExtraMision5555He can. He routinely flies throughout galaxies under his own power. He has a decent amount of speed feats and his best has him clocked at 100x light speed.
I mean, IF gladiator is capable of traveling at light speed ( i dont know much about gladiator) , like someone said before, its not too far fetched to assume that he has a chance of winning this fight.
how do you figure??
then so is superman flying into the sun.
and silver surfer flying through stars.
Those are their powers, its all tooney, gladiator is tooney. who can really burn things by looking at them?? and survive the suction of space??
the reason they dont make him rule the dc universe is because it wuold be boring. this is why during the infinte crisis wally dissapeared into a diferent dimension. once finally using his powers to the max and not holding back, ( in fear of taking over bary allens position on earth), he had nothing else to do but raise his twins in a different dimension. this is why superman and supe boy are always having different problems and new abilities, you can't just make one char rule over all, fans would lose interest
Originally posted by superman41082
Flash's so-called abilities are junk and based on bad writing. So why doesn't Flash just end all crime on earth? He could run around day and night, since he doesn't need to stuff the calories, and he's bound to find some criminal every second, since he can cover the entire earth probably 4 times over in a second. Then he could just stop all the crime and there's no need for a DC universe ever again. It will be happy land from then on.Stealing speed is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Flash isn't even a character at that point. He's worse than Galactus.
gosh!!!!
This post is waht i have always been thinking!!! i knew it wasnt just me!!
I mean THINK about it, if flash can move SO FAST, honestly, Even people that can think at lightspeed, if they cant move even close to lightspeed it just means their going to be able to think about the severity of thier light-speed beating. Flashes showings, and flashes powers conflict with themselves. Im sure someone is going to argue with this, but i mean come on, I KNOW YOU GUYS SEE HOW GOOFY FLASH IS!@I(kdlavd, vf;
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he's way faster than 4 times around in a second. DC universe has to make the flash one of its best, they invented the first runner superhero, who many other chars are based on,. if you want to be like that, then why not just make the presence the only superhero. the creator of everyhting in the dc universe. if it were like that, you would never hear of superman or gl. they need other chars.
Originally posted by great_dane
he's way faster than 4 times around in a second. DC universe has to make the flash one of its best, they invented the first runner superhero, who many other chars are based on,. if you want to be like that, then why not just make the presence the only superhero. the creator of everyhting in the dc universe. if it were like that, you would never hear of superman or gl. they need other chars.
Well thats different, the presence's purpose is entirely diffrent than flashes. Such as a creator, not a crime fighter