Originally posted by great_dane
??? So, basically the flash is goofey because i bet he can beat your guyses super heros right? how is the flash goofey?? in that case all chars wouldnt make sense and they'd all be goofy.
No trust me, i could care less who flash can beat. Its just the sheer poorness of the speedforce in its, speedforce, ness. Its just
it defies even comic logic. Its on the level of a comic book character having the power to manipulate panels in a comic, or tear pages out of a book.
Its just bad writeing
Originally posted by great_dane
how do you figure??then so is superman flying into the sun.
and silver surfer flying through stars.Those are their powers, its all tooney, gladiator is tooney. who can really burn things by looking at them?? and survive the suction of space??
the reason they dont make him rule the dc universe is because it wuold be boring. this is why during the infinte crisis wally dissapeared into a diferent dimension. once finally using his powers to the max and not holding back, ( in fear of taking over bary allens position on earth), he had nothing else to do but raise his twins in a different dimension. this is why superman and supe boy are always having different problems and new abilities, you can't just make one char rule over all, fans would lose interest
Look, toony or no, it just doesn't make any sense. Flash is an indiscriminate character and his powers are just out there. Superman can go into the sun, yes, but he gets his powers from the sun. Surfer...... I don't even want to get into him. His powers are stupid. Burning something by looking at it with your eyes is a world of difference from going back in time and stealing things speed. Why doesn't Flash just go back in time anytime anything bad happens? This stuff has no consistency whatsoever and should be ignored rather than referenced. These are the kinds of idiotic things that make me not want to read anymore. Wally is just a man and no regular man could do that stuff without being vaporized. All of that stuff written in the comics is logically impossible and inconsistent. Now someone born with the ability to read minds seems believable, but with the ability to steal speed and use it against them is so dumb. Also, there's certain people that Flash isn't supposed to be able to steal speed from so we can't say that he could do that to Gladiator. The way Flash is handled now is bonk. I like to think in terms of a realistic setting. Storm vs Rogue could be believable, but someone going back in time and using this indiscriminate speed force to take over the universe is just unimaginable. Really, Flash with these powers is no hero if he does not single-handedly put all other heroes out of a job. He should do it all by his lonesome in this case.
??? i dont get it?
so what is "good writing"
in this case
gl can tear pages out
superman can
galactus
silver surfer
all the heralds
the list go's on.
you can't say it go's on beyond common logic because all superheroes go beyond common logic. how can supe fly into the sun? why doesnt he get super old after all these years??
Originally posted by great_dane
??? i dont get it?so what is "good writing"
in this case
gl can tear pages out
superman can
galactus
silver surfer
all the heralds
the list go's on.you can't say it go's on beyond common logic because all superheroes go beyond common logic. how can supe fly into the sun? why doesnt he get super old after all these years??
Good writeing is a character being consistant, creative or "realistic" (and i dont mean realistic) with thier powers. THe speedforce itself is just a setup for bad writeing. And i am pertty much speciffically talking about flash right now. Truthfully, regardless of wether or not it would make an uninteresting comic, by all means flash should put every superhero out of business. Now i know someones going to bring up a bunch of other superheros that "should" do the said thing. and sure, tthis does go beyond flash. Its just flashes is SOOOOOOOO rediculous, i just cant help but point it out. his just sticks out much further than the rest, beause it is infact the most rediculous.
Bad writeing isint always a bad thing. But in flashes case, its just absurd.
Originally posted by great_dane
??? i dont get it?so what is "good writing"
in this case
gl can tear pages out
superman can
galactus
silver surfer
all the heralds
the list go's on.you can't say it go's on beyond common logic because all superheroes go beyond common logic. how can supe fly into the sun? why doesnt he get super old after all these years??
Dude.... some of the things Flash has done just go beyond these other guys. Okay, 'transmuting matter' is a retarded idea anyways. That means that any time Surfer gets into a fight he can just transmute the person and that's just gay, too. If someone can do that then everything around them then they just are God. God created the earth in whatever days, but this guy can do it whenever he wants. It has no consistency. Where did this ability come from and why isn't he transumtting things into something better? Supes is believable and inspiring. Everything Supes does works off of everything else, well. I can see that Flash may have some ridiculous powers that would go along with the speed, but lots of the stuff he does just holds no water. What is the point of even having a universe with a guy that can do whatever he wanted to with that universe? Have him be a fast guy that can do stuff not anything.
Originally posted by great_dane
then why doesnt superman grow old into a 87 year old grandpa??that isn't consistent
First off, they reinvent the characters. We don't want the Batman from 1939 because that guy would be an old fogie by then. We want the same guy put into this time with a cool new context. Secondly, I don't think Superman would grow old. He gets replenished and rejuvinated by the sun all the time. How would his body that gets so much energy ever become weaker?
Originally posted by hitemup
ExtraMision5555ur an idiot. how is flash a boring char when he can steal ur speed, run through time, vibrate through anything and infinite mass punch ur idiot head.
Because where is the struggle? If someone does all that, what obstacle is actually a challange for him? There's no conflict. They only play the 'Flash Wins' game over and over. Also, more importantly, it doesn't even make sense that he could do any of those things without dying. It's just stupid and boring.
Originally posted by superman41082
Dude.... some of the things Flash has done just go beyond these other guys. Okay, 'transmuting matter' is a retarded idea anyways. That means that any time Surfer gets into a fight he can just transmute the person and that's just gay, too. If someone can do that then everything around them then they just are God. God created the earth in whatever days, but this guy can do it whenever he wants. It has no consistency. Where did this ability come from and why isn't he transumtting things into something better? Supes is believable and inspiring. Everything Supes does works off of everything else, well. I can see that Flash may have some ridiculous powers that would go along with the speed, but lots of the stuff he does just holds no water. What is the point of even having a universe with a guy that can do whatever he wanted to with that universe? Have him be a fast guy that can do stuff not anything.
...So...because you don't like him...he doesn't win this fight? 😕
If you've got a problem, take it up with DC Comics. Flash has consistently shown to be able to handle people of even Gladiator's status (White Martians, anyone? [Although I truthfully think Glads could take a White Martian]).
Gladiator, even being as fast as he is, would never be able to touch Flash. Flash, however, could pummel Glads into oblivion.
Speed goes a long way.
Originally posted by hitemup
ExtraMision5555ur an idiot. how is flash a boring char when he can steal ur speed, run through time, vibrate through anything and infinite mass punch ur idiot head.
Lol
Judgeing by your post i assume you are wally west?
First of all nice to meet you.
Seocnd of all, flash is boring because, hmm... Everything you just listed? 🙂
and for the record, my skull is forged from a dense substance called Thornaxium. It is indestructable. So there will be no IMPING my skull. Wally's, or should i say, your hands would shatter instantly, createing a space rift which would ultimately suck you in.
ya. lol.
that isnt boring though, thats intenese. if this were true, all writing would be boring.
why have superman, he's just gonna save the day.
why have wolverine, he's just gonna regenerate and come back
why have batman?? he'll take something off his belt and beat whoever heas fighting.
you make no sense