X-Men vs. Hal Jordan

Hal's ring can actually protect from that type of thing. He's done it in the past.

Have any scans of him avoiding his body entering absolute zero?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero

Originally posted by Madvillain
Cyclops
Beast
Colossus
Emma Frost
Shadowcat
Wolverine
Professor X
Darwin
Havok
Marvel Girl
Nightcrawler
Polaris
Warpath
Rogue
Cable
Cannonball
Iceman
Mystique
Sabretooth

vs.

Hal Jordan

Spite thread. 😠

If the whole Parallax debacle proved anything, it's that being a Green Lantern doesn't make you immune to mental control. Emma Frost & Xavier are more than enough to beat Hal here.

Hell, the moment he took the Orange Lantern power battery, it possessed him right there didn't it? It was only broken when Larfleeze grabbed it back.

Originally posted by Madvillain
Cyclops
Beast
Colossus
Emma Frost
Shadowcat
Wolverine
Professor X
Darwin
Havok
Marvel Girl
Nightcrawler
Polaris
Warpath
Rogue
Cable
Cannonball
Iceman
Mystique
Sabretooth

vs.

Hal Jordan

This is spite. Even with how useless Bobby Drake is. vin

What the hell is up with this thread? These people would stomp (even if most of them wouldnt even matter in the fight)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Darwin can solo. Professor X can solo. On their own, Marvel Girl, Polaris, Cannonball give him decent fights. On their own, everyone from the Summers' clan won't be going down easy.

This is spite. Even with how useless Bobby Drake is. vin

No lol, none of them can solo. GL's have automatic TP shields, Darwin's powers are just as likely to take him away from the fight as help him here, and Marvel Girl, Polaris, and Cannonball don't have a chance against someone who tangles with Kryptonians and other characters of like power.

^ GL's automatic TP shields don't render them immune to telepathy. Let's not pretend otherwise.

GL ring isn't WWH.

And projecting the power of the types of company GLs have kept... onto GLs -- while conveniently forgetting how outmatched they are sometimes by said company -- isn't an argument.

I looked through some of these feats on Hal Jordan's respect thread, because I've never seen feats like this - teleporting, matter changing, stopping time - EVER within the capabilities of a GL. After some reading, it looks like pre-crisis bullsh*t to me, where the writers didn't care.

Plus, in the 1987 mini Millennium, he got owned telepathically by a Manhunter. Emma & Xavier could do that very easily.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ GL's automatic TP shields don't render them immune to telepathy. Let's not pretend otherwise.

GL ring isn't WWH.

And projecting the power of the types of company GLs have kept... onto GLs -- while conveniently forgetting how outmatched they are sometimes by said company -- isn't an argument.

Here is an argument.

Green Lanterns have taken down or severly harmed Kryptonians and other similarly power leveled characters including, but not limited to Superman, Cyborg Superman, Amazo, Mongul, etc. Those people are out of the league of most anyone here. Rookie Hal tanked a point blank Nuclear Explosion, top tier Lantern's have contained supernova's. Hal's autoshields have saved him from explosions that would level the entire state of Rhode Island. The rings have AI and automatically shield from threats and regulate things such as temperature withing the GL shields. The rings also shield from Telepathy which has been shown numerous times.

Most of these characters have no chance whatsoever.
Cyclops - no chance
Beast - no chance
Colossus - no chance
Emma Frost - slim chance
Shadowcat -
Wolverine - no chance
Professor X - Slim chance
Darwin - slim chance
Havok - Small chance
Marvel Girl - slim chance
Nightcrawler - No chance
Polaris - slim chance
Warpath - none
Rogue -none
Cable - slim
Cannonball - slim
Iceman - best chance
Mystique - none
Sabretooth - none

Also for whoever said it....possession =/= Telepathy. Sorry ran out of time gtg.

Originally posted by Lunacyde
Here is an argument.

Green Lanterns have taken down or severly harmed Kryptonians and other similarly power leveled characters including, but not limited to Superman, Cyborg Superman, Amazo, Mongul, etc. Those people are out of the league of most anyone here. Rookie Hal tanked a point blank Nuclear Explosion, top tier Lantern's have contained supernova's. Hal's autoshields have saved him from explosions that would level the entire state of Rhode Island. The rings have AI and automatically shield from threats and regulate things such as temperature withing the GL shields. The rings also shield from Telepathy which has been shown numerous times.

... this is spite.

PC Hal =/= current Hal. Kyle's feats =/= Hal's feats. Auto-shields =/= auto-win. This thread and some of the argumentation = stupid.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Xavier, Beast and Jean surpressed the Dark Phoenix. Darwin handled the M'Kraan crystal's power. Cannonball beat Gladiator. Havok got dropped into a star and handled Vulcan. Polaris, Iceman, Marvel Girl...

... this is spite.

PC Hal =/= current Hal. Kyle's feats =/= Hal's feats. Auto-shields =/= auto-win. This thread and some of the argumentation = stupid.

Cannonball beating Gladiator is ridiculous if we look at what each are capable of doing at their usual levels. Havok had the advantage that he is highly suited to fighting Vulcan considering he is not immune, but at least resistant to his powers.

I never said Hal wins, I said no one solo's him. Together the people I listed as being able to beat him probably beat him, but certainly none of them 1 v. 1.

Hal has also contained an exploding star so forget it being Kyle's feat, Hal has done it too. I certainly never said auto-shields = auto-win. I merely was explaining that he has auto-shields because some people seem to overlook that fact, and that they have stood up to explosive forces far greater than that of a nuclear explosion, and also that they grant protection from Telepathy and temperature change as well as physical assaults.

I find that those who resolve to calling others stupid for disagreeing to be childish and rude. I'm trying to have a civil debate here and the best you can do is insult me and say i said things I never said?

Cannonball never beat Gladiator.

Originally posted by roughrider
Spite thread. 😠

If the whole Parallax debacle proved anything, it's that being a Green Lantern doesn't make you immune to mental control. Emma Frost & Xavier are more than enough to beat Hal here.

Possession =/= telepathy

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Darwin can solo. Professor X can solo. On their own, Marvel Girl, Polaris, Cannonball give him decent fights. On their own, everyone from the Summers' clan won't be going down easy.

This is spite. Even with how useless Bobby Drake is. vin

Darwin's powers don't work like that. It's a 50/50 chance that he'll evolve something offensive, and an even lower chance that it will be sufficient.

Professor X can solo if Jordan doesn't consciously raise TP shields. It's certainly possible that he won't know about the presence of telepaths in this battle.

Too many heavy hitters on the X-Men side but half the team is fodder to Hal 😬

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Cannonball never beat Gladiator.

Possession =/= telepathy

Darwin's powers don't work like that. It's a 50/50 chance that he'll evolve something offensive, and an even lower chance that it will be sufficient.

Professor X can solo if Jordan doesn't consciously raise TP shields. It's certainly possible that he won't know about the presence of telepaths in this battle.

Cannonball just fooled Gladiator into doubting himself. And scored a good punch.

can frost and xavier telepathically get past a GL shield ?

Originally posted by Johnny Sorrow
Cannonball never beat Gladiator.

Possession =/= telepathy

Darwin's powers don't work like that. It's a 50/50 chance that he'll evolve something offensive, and an even lower chance that it will be sufficient.

Professor X can solo if Jordan doesn't consciously raise TP shields. It's certainly possible that he won't know about the presence of telepaths in this battle.

They still have too many high end telepaths.

Darwin's power depends entirelly on the writer's wishes of course, but when they don't need to get his potential invincibility out of the way to tell a story, he is actually quite powerfull. Immunity to oan energy should be the first thing he sprouts.

Originally posted by 753
They still have too many high end telepaths.

So? I was addressing another point.

Originally posted by 753
Darwin's power depends entirelly on the writer's wishes of course, but when they don't need to get his potential invincibility out of the way to tell a story, he is actually quite powerfull. Immunity to oan energy should be the first thing he sprouts.

It's practically impossible to tell how he will evolve in any given scenario. That's not "writer's wishes": that is the way his powers work. He will evolve in a way that favors his survival, not the defeat of an enemy.

Darwin alone could give him trouble, all of them together? Considering they have some good telepaths, they just have to distract him enough to get him to lower his mental defenses, then it's over.