The basis of her powers being psionic is heavily implied in that both her parents are telepaths, in most ways she's an ordinary girl, size, weight, physiology etc. and when her powers are used her eyes glow and at times an aura has been depicted around her body, akin to when psionics use their abilities.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The basis of her powers being psionic is heavily implied in that both her parents are telepaths, in most ways she's an ordinary girl, size, weight, physiology etc. and when her powers are used her eyes glow and at times an aura has been depicted around her body, akin to when psionics use their abilities.
Yes okay I got that I agree with you. How is her stamina, can she fight for hours?
Originally posted by Alfheim
If she cant fight for hours Cap will dodge her until the cows come home and then knock her out. He did this to D-man when he was given 80 + strength he simply dodged him until he became overloaded and D-man passsed out.Cap can win this way 10/10
Why would she go after him when it's HE that has to find a way to put HER down? I mean really, she can just stand there, easily take his punishment, and then wait for Cap to leave himself open for an attack.
And with her strength, one good solid blow will quickly turn the tide of the match in her favor.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Why would she go after him when it's HE that has to find a way to put HER down? I mean really, she can just stand there, easily take his punishment, and then wait for Cap to leave himself open for an attack.And with her strength, one good solid blow will quickly turn the tide of the match in her favor.
Does Molly Hayes, have lots of fighting experience is there anything to indicate that some one of her age is that smart...or would she behave like the average 12 year old and go after Cap.
Even if she lets Cap attack her what are the chances of her hitting him? What fighting experience or skill does she have? The chances are 9 times out of ten she will not him unless she gets really lucky.
She does not have fighting skill of an enraged D-man who did not tag Cap once, and you think she is going to be able to tag Cap.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's a twelve year old. She's not a twelve year old Forrest Gump. 😐
What has Forest Gump have to do with anything? She is a twelve year old. She is going to fight like a twelve year old with little fighting experience i e punch and kick and shes not fast either. Shes not going to tag Cap.
Well ok then Molly is not a retard but she is still a 12 year old. Cap is a genuis at strategy, he will have to goad her into a fight....or he does not even have to do that.
If Cap wants to he can just sit there all day. A twelve year old regardless of wether they cannot get hurt or not is not going to wait an hour or maybe 2, the twelve year old will get fed up and attack Cap.
Cap has basic knowledge of Molly he can goad her. As far as I know she is a runaway, Cap could insult her about being homeless and being a reject. Molly will not give a damn wether she is invulnerable or not and will try to smash Caps face in.
The chances are he can goad her into a fight. Since her powers are pisonically based he can also mess with her head and lower her confidence and therefore lower her power like Gladiator.
Cap: Whats the matter can you hit me? You're useless! I tell you what I'll even show me chin...here it is....
*she misses gets more pissed off and frustrated*
Originally posted by Alfheim
Well ok then Molly is not a retard but she is still a 12 year old. Cap is a genuis at strategy, he will have to goad her into a fight....or he does not even have to do that.If Cap wants to he can just sit there all day. A twelve year old regardless of wether they cannot get hurt or not is not going to wait an hour or maybe 2, the twelve year old will get fed up and attack Cap.
Cap has basic knowledge of Molly he can goad her. As far as I know she is a runaway, Cap could insult her about being homeless and being a reject. Molly will not give a damn wether she is invulnerable or not and will try to smash Caps face in.
The chances are he can goad her into a fight. Since her powers are pisonically based he can also mess with her head and lower her confidence and therefore lower her power like Gladiator.
Cap: Whats the matter can you hit me? You're useless! I tell you what I'll even show me chin...here it is....
*she misses gets more pissed off and frustrated*
First off...you're TOTALLY making an ambiguous assumption about her powers (like that alliteration there?). You don't know at all if they work that way. For all you know, she could get stronger and even more invulnerable the more frustrated she gets.
Secondly. You're really playing the immaturity card? 🤨
KMC rules state that each opponent will fight to the best of his or her ability. While that doesn't mean that Molly will instantly become Batman with her fighting skills, but she's not gonna be easily goaded like an infant with candy. She's twelve. I dunno how you were when you were twelve, but I was pretty aware of things at that age. At twelve, one is not easily frustrated with those methods. Low grades, bad social skills perhaps...but not in the way you mentioned.
Using your logic, this can only be a stalemate. Molly won't be able to touch Cap. Cap can't hurt Molly. Stalemate.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
First off...you're TOTALLY making an ambiguous assumption about her powers (like that alliteration there?). You don't know at all if they work that way. For all you know, she could get stronger and even more invulnerable the more frustrated she gets.
Her powers are psionic go and look through the evidence. Even she gets even madder and invulnerable it doent matter. She does not have super speed and there is not evidence to indicate she can fight for hours.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
KMC rules state that each opponent will fight to the best of his or her ability. While that doesn't mean that Molly will instantly become Batman with her fighting skills, but she's not gonna be easily goaded like an infant with candy. She's twelve. I dunno how you were when you were twelve, but I was pretty aware of things at that age. At twelve, one is not easily frustrated with those methods. Low grades, bad social skills perhaps...but not in the way you mentioned.
Look she is a twelve year old, she maybe smart but she is still twelve and he is a genuis at strategy are you trying to tell me that he cant trick her? Are you trying to tell me that for example if I took the piss out of your low grades and social skills you wouldnt get pissed off? Your average 12 year old would sit there for ok lets say 2HOURS while getting insulted would just sit there?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Using your logic, this can only be a stalemate. Molly won't be able to touch Cap. Cap can't hurt Molly. Stalemate.
Er no.
If the worst comes to the worst who can survive the longest without food?
Originally posted by Alfheim
Her powers are psionic go and look through the evidence. Even she gets even madder and invulnerable it doent matter. She does not have super speed and there is not evidence to indicate she can fight for hours.Look she is a twelve year old, she maybe smart but she is still twelve and he is a genuis at strategy are you trying to tell me that he cant trick her? Are you trying to tell me that for example if I took the piss out of your low grades and social skills you wouldnt get pissed off? Your average 12 year old would sit there for ok lets say 2HOURS while getting insulted would just sit there?
Er no.
If the worst comes to the worst who can survive the longest without food?
Those kinds of parameters are excluded from these matches. Otherwise I could use the argument:
"Who will have to use the bathroom first? Cap will have to use the bathroom first, giving Molly the win!"
Do you see now why that kind of logic can't be used?
Yes, I see that her powers are psionic. But you have no proof that she gets weaker when frustrated. Like I said, she very well could get stronger. And we don't yet know the extent of her endurance.
And I never said she was a battle strategist. Just that she's not an infant. I think she's well aware of her situation in life right now (especially having run away with the others, she's had to grow up a lot in a very short amount of time), which would really make her even more alert to any sort of scheme Cap has for her. I mean, when you've become part of a superhero team (of sorts), you tend to gain a little more wisdom in the aspect of fighting.
That's like saying a young Robin will be easily tricked using his immaturity against him. No. He's been trained and has loads of experience to let him know not to fall for childish tricks.
While not having training, she has enough experience now to realize she's being tricked.
That said, unless you can prove otherwise, I vote Stalemate.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Those kinds of parameters are excluded from these matches. Otherwise I could use the argument:"Who will have to use the bathroom first? Cap will have to use the bathroom first, giving Molly the win!"
Do you see now why that kind of logic can't be used?
No it depends on the parameters set by the thread creator. Some people have created threads were two people are locked in an adamantium room. OK it does not apply to this case because it was not specified by the thread creator, so we can assume it takes place somewhere in New York
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes, I see that her powers are psionic. But you have no proof that she gets weaker when frustrated.
I never said she did.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Like I said, she very well could get stronger.
That does not matter she is not fast enough to hit Cap.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And we don't yet know the extent of her endurance.
Yeah we do actually. I have been reading her bio, this changes alot of stuff.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And I never said she was a battle strategist. Just that she's not an infant. I think she's well aware of her situation in life right now (especially having run away with the others, she's had to grow up a lot in a very short amount of time), which would really make her even more alert to any sort of scheme Cap has for her. I mean, when you've become part of a superhero team (of sorts), you tend to gain a little more wisdom in the aspect of fighting.
Yeah but Cap is still smarter and has vastly more experience.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That's like saying a young Robin will be easily tricked using his immaturity against him. No. He's been trained and has loads of experience to let him know not to fall for childish tricks.
Ok true, but Batman will outsmart Robin.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
While not having training, she has enough experience now to realize she's being tricked.
Ok but the chances are that Cap can still trick her and outsmart her, but not as easily.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
That said, unless you can prove otherwise, I vote Stalemate.
Molly Hayes
Initially, Molly would become extremely tired after she used her strength and often fell asleep following fights. She is now capable of using her powers for extended periods of time without requiring sleep afterwards, but she still needs to rest.
Now I know this information she is going to have to attack Cap, because if she does not he will. The reason for this is because he well want her to use her powers in order for her to get tired. It is unlikely that she will be able to tag Cap an when she gets exhausted its curtains. He also does not to attack her with punches and kicks he can trow his shield or even throw stuff at her as long as she activates her powers.
I like Molly and all, and I absolutely love Runaways, but there is no way she would beat Cap.
Even though Cap is outclassed in strenght, he is WAY too fast to get his by a 12 year old. Seriously, I think he could dodge her his eyes closed. Literally. He's dodged stuff thrown by Bullseye while being blind. Man, I could probably dodge her for at least an hour. Now, Cap can't tire because of the serum. He'd either dodge her each blow, or just block them with his shield.
But she is durable. So, unless this is in city setting, Cap can't really hurt her.
So, 5/10 to both.
