Molly Hayes vs Captain America

Started by AcousticDoc6 pages

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

True. She's probably a tad on the slow side. Then again though, playing D.A., what does Cap do to win.

Uh WTF...She throws that thing into a freaking building!? Another stamford?

Yeh, these sorts of things have been happening for decades. Which is why I find Civil War somewhat contrived.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Did you just happen to forget that super strength thing?

"Choking Molly out would be the worst move Cap could make."

He starts to choke her out, she grabs his arms and snaps them into tiny pieces and then ripped from their sockets. Why would Cap want his arms removed? 😕 I don't think it makes him fight any better.

Wait one minute her bio says she can lift 3 tons......

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
Uh WTF...She throws that thing into a freaking building!? Another stamford?

So whats up with that?? Its Powerman all over again.

I am not very familiar with Molly, but Cap has taken on characters with more experience and strength than what Molly has shown before hasn't he?

One would think that superior tactics, fighting skill, and experience should count for something here, especially if Molly has a limited duration on her powers. She would get tired sooner or later, and regardless of her ability 12 year old kids tend to need sleep more often than do fully grown adults (especially considering Cap is peak and has been enhanced by the SS serum).

Regular soldiers in war situations stay up for days when needed, wouldn't he simply outlast her? It's not like he would even have to go toe to toe with her, in theory he could just wait it out until she gets tired.

I don't know how the fight would end, but if I was a betting man I would probably put my money down on Cap based on what I know currently about Molly.

PS- I don't know about anyone else, but when I drink multiple coffee's I tend to get tired as soon as the caffine wears off in a few hours. The same would probably hold true for Molly no?

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem

PS- I don't know about anyone else, but when I drink multiple coffee's I tend to get tired as soon as the caffine wears off in a few hours. The same would probably hold true for Molly no?

I was thinking something like that could happen.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
For the duration means for the duration.

And? That has been posted multiple times in the thread, thanks for being repetitive. 🙄

The fight can go the duration, but the longer it goes the more the fight would favor Cap obviously, caffeine is all fine and dandy but in a few mere hours it will have worn off and she would be feeling the effects of fatigue.

Why does no one understand the phrase: For the duration means for the duration.

Bah, Cap takes her out for icecream 😄

Molly then joins Cap's new super de duper team

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
And? That has been posted multiple times in the thread, thanks for being repetitive. 🙄

The fight can go the duration, but the longer it goes the more the fight would favor Cap obviously, caffeine is all fine and dandy but in a few mere hours it will have worn off and she would be feeling the effects of fatigue.

They mean that it won't wear off.

Just pretend that she has a molecularly-bonded-adamantium pump constantly juicing her with caffiene that was CREATED from the ambient atmosphere (Reed made it, 😉 ). It won't run out (unless the atmosphere does - unlikely), and it can't be destroyed. There.

For the duration.

Re: Re: Re: Molly Hayes vs Captain America

Originally posted by Validus
Well you should be reading Runaways. Marvel's best book in my most humble of opinions.

ended up dropping it.

the cynicism and constant pop culture references got old pretty fast.
and Molly is written like she's 6 years old.

Victor is the only character in the whole book I could tolerate.

I like cynicism.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
And? That has been posted multiple times in the thread, thanks for being repetitive. 🙄

The fight can go the duration, but the longer it goes the more the fight would favor Cap obviously, caffeine is all fine and dandy but in a few mere hours it will have worn off and she would be feeling the effects of fatigue.

No need for the attitude, my friend. I merely quoted it again to answer the repetitive question.

Perhaps when people start understanding what thread-starter is saying, I won't have to keep quoting it, ja?

Sorry for the attitude Metalmanx, I completely misunderstood what that was supposed to mean and thought you were just trying to impersonate a parrot.

My bad. 🙂

Originally posted by Soljer
They mean that it won't wear off.

Just pretend that she has a molecularly-bonded-adamantium pump constantly juicing her with caffiene that was CREATED from the ambient atmosphere (Reed made it, 😉 ). It won't run out (unless the atmosphere does - unlikely), and it can't be destroyed. There.

For the duration.

Thanks for explaining it, I was thinking that "for the duration" meant that there would be no stalemates allowed and that the fight would have to continue until there was a definate loser.

So this is nothing more than a spite thread? May as well put Cap against Superman (minus the speed, flight, and eye beams).

In that case Molly would win, since she is not allowed to use the powers given to her and instead is made out in this fight to be someone who will never need sleep and won't ever lose her powers this is a pointless thread IMO.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem

So this is nothing more than a spite thread? May as well put Cap against Superman (minus the speed, flight, and eye beams).

Xmarksthespot has a habit of doing this. He doesnt lose its a stalemate she wont hit him and he wont hurt her.

Well if she is not allowed to get tired, and there is no rule against Cap tiring obviously he would feel fatigue at some point or another and when that happens he would begin to slow down and eventually make a mistake.

No matter what Cap does he cannot hurt Molly, but she only needs one slap to put him down for good.

That is kind of the way I am seeing it now, this fight just went from interesting to incredibly lame IMO.

Originally posted by Dinkus Mayhem
Well if she is not allowed to get tired, and there is no rule against Cap tiring obviously he would feel fatigue at some point or another and when that happens he would begin to slow down and eventually make a mistake.

No matter what Cap does he cannot hurt Molly, but she only needs one slap to put him down for good.

That is kind of the way I am seeing it now, this fight just went from interesting to incredibly lame IMO.

You know what I dont think I undertsand this duration concept. From what you are saying the fight is rigged so Cap will lose.

Ok im dumb somebody please explain this duration thing to me in the simplest of terms, because I think im going to rip somebodys head off.

Basically the way I now understand it, the creator of this thread decided that Molly should never feel fatigue and will always be amped up on caffeine.

Thus she would be at peak power for the entire match, while Cap is allowed to feel fatigue.

Lame eh?

The caffeine will wear off. But she won't get sleepy. This is crystal in the OP, and I have no idea why it's so hard to comprehend other than you really, really, really want to find a way for him to win, and dislike that a 12 year old girl could stalemate or shock horror perhaps even beat him.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Xmarksthespot has a habit of doing this. He doesnt lose its a stalemate she wont hit him and he wont hurt her.
Oh, boo hoo. 😐

If neither side is capable of winning since the assumption is that Captain America can never be hit ever, then how exactly is that a spite thread.

You made Strong Guy vs Captain America. It's essentially the same thing. Strong Guy absorbs kinetic energy. Captain America cannot hurt him, he isn't anywhere near the strength level needed to actually harm Strong Guy, he can't overload him, and pressure points - assuming Strong Guy's deformed body even has them and has them in the same equivalent places as regular human anatomy, which are two big assumptions - still rely on kinetic energy which Strong Guy absorbs.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The caffeine will wear off. But she won't get sleepy. This is crystal in the OP, and I have no idea why it's so hard to comprehend other than you really, really, really want to find a way for him to win, and dislike that a 12 year old girl could stalemate or shock horror perhaps even beat him.

If he loses he loses I just dont like your spite threads because they are against the rules.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

If neither side is capable of winning since the assumption is that Captain America can never be hit ever, then how exactly is that a spite thread.

Since you put it that way fine, but this is something you do alot so I started to assume that it was a spite thread.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

You made Strong Guy vs Captain America. It's essentially the same thing. Strong Guy absorbs kinetic energy. Captain America [b]cannot
hurt him, he isn't anywhere near the strength level needed to actually harm Strong Guy
[/B]

He doesnt have to be its his prescribed power.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

, he can't overload him, and pressure points - assuming Strong Guy's deformed body even has them and has them in the same equivalent places as regular human anatomy, which are two big assumptions - still rely on kinetic energy which [b]Strong Guy absorbs
. [/B]

Good point, but since there is a maximum isnt it possible for kinetic energy to be so low that it does not register, anyway there is no evidence I think to support this. The only way he could overload SG is by using the envinronment to beat him the same way he beat the Wrecker in the Avengers, but that would depend on the envinronment. It is possible like this fight Cap could dodge him for the duration.