Jesus Christ and the Resurrection (what does the evidence reveal?)

Started by Robtard15 pages

Too bad Jesus didn't write down anything that is found in the bible.

Originally posted by Robtard
Too bad Jesus didn't write down anything that is found in the bible.

He might not have written it down, but why not even base it soley on what WAS said by him and written down? That's, unfortunately, not what is written in the bible. For the infallible word of "god", the bible includes seriously little that was actually said by this god.

Originally posted by Devil King
then why do you use social methods for justifying it to others; ie scripture, websites, etc? Jesus is an interesting person, no doubt. As soon as you limit your preaching to his words only, you may be on to something.

All Scripture is the Word of Jesus (Jesus is God).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
All Scripture is the Word of Jesus (Jesus is God).

But Paul wrote most of the NT and he was not Jesus or god.

The Bible does have multiple authors but all were inspired by God. No Christian actually believes God sent a lightning bolt or something and then there was suddenly the Bible. You won't believe it or find it valid, but the explanation to how the Bible is divine and yet written by people is these people were basically commissioned by God to write his Word and spread it throughout the world.

Didn't God write the personally write the Ten Commandments? Now God has to subcontract the work to flawed men?

The NT God is such a pansy, compared to the Jew God.

Well, the 10 Commandments also went missing and if they weren't documented in the Torah and the Bible, we wouldn't even know about them, would we?

Originally posted by willofthewisp
The Bible does have multiple authors but all were inspired by God. No Christian actually believes God sent a lightning bolt or something and then there was suddenly the Bible. You won't believe it or find it valid, but the explanation to how the Bible is divine and yet written by people is these people were basically commissioned by God to write his Word and spread it throughout the world.

Please just for a moment see it from my point of view: I am a Buddhist, and when I look out onto the world I see two major religions both saying the same thing about their own book, the bible and the Koran. Both are claimed to be inspired by god. However, they do not agree with each other. Therefore, this god must be schizophrenic or there are more then one god at work here. So, why should I believe you as a Christian over the word of a Muslim?

Originally posted by willofthewisp
The Bible does have multiple authors but all were inspired by God. No Christian actually believes God sent a lightning bolt or something and then there was suddenly the Bible. You won't believe it or find it valid, but the explanation to how the Bible is divine and yet written by people is these people were basically commissioned by God to write his Word and spread it throughout the world.

Amos 3:7 FTW?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please just for a moment see it from my point of view: I am a Buddhist, and when I look out onto the world I see two major religions both saying the same thing about their own book, the bible and the Koran. Both are claimed to be inspired by god. However, they do not agree with each other. Therefore, this god must be schizophrenic or there are more then one god at work here. So, why should I believe you as a Christian over the word of a Muslim?

Interesting point..

You are either an infidel or a heathen. 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
All Scripture is the Word of Jesus (Jesus is God).

Even the parts he wasn't around for and later apparently condemned by creating a new covenant with humanity, simply by exisitng?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: do you think that you would be inclined to curse (for discussion sake let's pressupose that you use profanity) if you hated cursing? The fact is people are less inclined to do things that they hate. For example, many people hate vegetables so they are less likely to eat them.

You may want to avoid something but hatred is too strong.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Question: do you think that you would be inclined to curse (for discussion sake let's pressupose that you use profanity) if you hated cursing? The fact is people are less inclined to do things that they hate. For example, many people hate vegetables so they are less likely to eat them.

I realize that Christianity does not give you the tools needed to understand the power of hate. But if you knew something about the ten worlds and how hate can change the very world you live in, you would do everything possible to stay away from hate.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
With all of our technology, sophistication, advanced scientific discovery, and the best minds that the Ivy league could muster, you mean you cannot tell me how and why the universe came into existence? We can perform open heart surgery, put people on the moon, and even split an atom, but we cannot explain the origin of universe?

Wow.

sorry for a late response but our answers to the universe's mysteries are sure a hell of alot better than they were a 2000-1000 years ago. the universe itself is the most complicated thing in existence something which probally will never be fully understood because it is such an illogical and complicated thing. everything is perfectly balanced, to a point where it almost seems like it must be living and everything in it is a organ or cell. even blackholes benefit the universe, and they are the most destructive thing in existence.

aliens that live on the other side of the universe and have mastered technologies we have yet to dream of probally dont have full comprehension of the universe

and theres an old quote that supports my theories
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.” Albert Einstein

and here is another interesting one that is so true
“No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means” George Bernard Shaw quotes

another 100% true quote, like dead on
“All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.” Stendhal

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please just for a moment see it from my point of view: I am a Buddhist, and when I look out onto the world I see two major religions both saying the same thing about their own book, the bible and the Koran. Both are claimed to be inspired by god. However, they do not agree with each other. Therefore, this god must be schizophrenic or there are more then one god at work here. So, why should I believe you as a Christian over the word of a Muslim?

* in reality, there is only one God the Father... but there are many different religious organizations & denominations who believe in God in different ways... those organizations have different "Gods"... but there is only one God the Father... example, some believe God is omnipresent, others do not... some believe He was omniscient and omnipotent, so do not... some believe Christ to be a mortal, some divine and some both... so you see? there are many misinterpretations... many are twisting the Scriptures... many people believe in different "Gods"...

Originally posted by peejayd
* in reality, there is only one God the Father... but there are many different religious organizations & denominations who believe in God in different ways... those organizations have different "Gods"... but there is only one God the Father... example, some believe God is omnipresent, others do not... some believe He was omniscient and omnipotent, so do not... some believe Christ to be a mortal, some divine and some both... so you see? there are many misinterpretations... many are twisting the Scriptures... many people believe in different "Gods"...

You have spoken the truth...

Originally posted by peejayd
* in reality, there is only one God the Father...

Based on what?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You have spoken the truth...
how do you know? the truth is what is real, what can be proven, and nothing about religion can be proven (wrong) until death

Originally posted by The big EH
how do you know? the truth is what is real, what can be proven, and nothing about religion can be proven (wrong) until death

I was being sarcastic.

i know, but i just wanted to state that 😛