Atheism Test

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This idea of separating us from other animals like if we were a completely diferent thing looks like what the Nazi thought. They thought they were a better race who had nothing to do with the others.

Many philosophies and even science bring ideas that unifies everything. Everything obeys the same law and rules therfore we are also part of nature. If we are not animals then we are not part of nature, we are an isolated thing.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Nothing in this universe is eternal (this violates the law of cause and effect).

"Conservation of energy states that the total amount of energy in an isolated system remains constant, although it may change forms (for instance, friction turns kinetic energy into thermal energy). In thermodynamics, the first law of thermodynamics is a statement of the conservation of energy for thermodynamic systems.

Put simply, the law of conservation of energy states that energy can not be created or destroyed—it can only be changed from one form to another (such as electrical energy into heat energy).

The energy conservation law is a mathematical consequence of the shift symmetry of time; energy conservation is implied by the empirical fact that nothing depends on time itself (see Noether's theorem)."

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
People have a lot of instincts. A baby will find a breast and feed without using reason. A person can see faces in a random pattern, this is an instinct; humans that could identify a predator in the wild, where able to survive and pass on this trait.

Every human has basic instinct, but animals "only" have instinct, this is one difference between humans and animals.

What exactly are the basic instincts that humans and animals share?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The issue is not "why" would an animal do thus and so but "can" it do thus and so. That is my premise. Animals are not "capable" of doing what humans are capable of doing because they do not have the "intrinsic" ability to do what humans can do.

Humans do not process information instinctively, we process informaition "rationally."

No, humans did not evolve anything, the facts favor this.

No you are way off. The facts support that humans evolved, we have fossil records to prove this or do you doubt that the caveman even existed? So for you it is a level of intelligence for many animals have processing power far greater than that of any human. How do you explain animals using tools or problem solving a situation that is totally foreign to them if they can’t think or reason? Humans are instinctive as much as animals are. When a baby is hungry it just doesn’t go “I’m hungry so I’m going to cry now so I will get food” it does this by instinct, there was no reasoning.

Chimps have learned to use sign language and not only just the words but sentences and even have created their own. Chimps using tools to get food, birds using tools to get their food, dolphins that know the difference between a reflection and another dolphin and I could keep going on.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Every human has [B]basic instinct, but animals "only" have instinct, this is one difference between humans and animals. [/B]

Animals do not only have instants. Animals can learn. You are wrong and if you ask any animal behaviorist, they will show you just how wrong you are.

You need to go back to school.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Every human has [B]basic instinct, but animals "only" have instinct, this is one difference between humans and animals. [/B]

So dogs just happen to know the command 'roll-over'.The are taught it by their owner just like babies are taught by their parents.

Originally posted by {{QS}}
So dogs just happen to know the command 'roll-over'.Man i knew genetic hard-wiring was good but that complex a command.

It's not the dog that is hard-wired. It is JIA who is hard-headed. 😂

BTW {{QS}} That was a really good point. 👆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
It's not the dog that is hard-wired. It is JIA who is hard-headed. 😂

BTW {{QS}} That was a really good point. 👆

😂 Thanks, it amazes me how you get the same kind of stupid points in the Religion forum as you do in the Comic book Versus forem.

Originally posted by ThePittman
No you are way off. The facts support that humans evolved, we have fossil records to prove this or do you doubt that the caveman even existed? So for you it is a level of intelligence for many animals have processing power far greater than that of any human. How do you explain animals using tools or problem solving a situation that is totally foreign to them if they can’t think or reason? Humans are instinctive as much as animals are. When a baby is hungry it just doesn’t go “I’m hungry so I’m going to cry now so I will get food” it does this by instinct, there was no reasoning.

Chimps have learned to use sign language and not only just the words but sentences and even have created their own. Chimps using tools to get food, birds using tools to get their food, dolphins that know the difference between a reflection and another dolphin and I could keep going on.

You don't have any fossil records that prove human evolution, you may "think" that you do, but you don't. All humans have basic instinct. But animals "only" have instinct. You are comparing apples with Range Rovers.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You don't have any fossil records that prove human evolution, you may "think" that you do, but you don't. All humans have basic instinct. But animals "only" have instinct. You are comparing apples with Range Rovers.

"You only think that, but you are wrong." I would say that is a class A example of a closed mind.

/a self-destructing argument.

Originally posted by Alliance
/a self-destructing argument.

And a childish one. 🙂

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
"You only think that, but you are wrong." I would say that is a class A example of a closed mind.

Why aren't there any intermediate species of animals today? There should be gradations of each species from the most primordial cell to humans.

But there aren't.

You know why?

Because they don't exist.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why aren't there any intermediate species of animals today? There should be gradations of each species from the most primordial cell to humans.

But there aren't.

You know why?

Because they don't exist.

Though most of the history of the Hominids, there was several species surviving at the same time. 70,000 years ago the Hominids, survived a bottle neck extinction event. This event may have killed off most of the other Hominids. However, there was a fellow Hominid living just 16,000 years ago in Indonesia.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Though most of the history of the Hominids, there was several species surviving at the same time. 70,000 years ago the Hominids, survived a bottle neck extinction event. This event may have killed off most of the other Hominids. However, there was a fellow Hominid living just 16,000 years ago in Indonesia.

I am not just referring to "Hominids," but to all animal species. Here is what I wrote:

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why aren't there any intermediate species of animals today? There should be gradations of each species from the most primordial cell to humans.

But there aren't.

You know why?

Because they don't exist.

This was my question and you have failed to answer it. You went off talking about Hominids when the question was "animals," and "each species," plural. You only dealt with the Hominids. Why aren't there any intermediate species of all animals running around? What you see are each "distinct" animal completely formed (no gradations). This does not support the evolutionary model, it supports the creationary model.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
I am not just referring to "Hominids," but to [b]all animal species. Here is what I wrote:

This was my question and you have failed to answer it. You went off talking about Hominids when the question was "animals," and "each species," plural. You only dealt with the Hominids. Why aren't there any intermediate species of all animals running around? What you see are each "distinct" animal completely formed (no gradations). This does not support the evolutionary model, it supports the creationary model. [/B]

You are making not sense at all. Your understanding of evolution is childish. All species are intermediate species. All animals are changing right now as we speak. Evolution is not something that only happened in the past, it is happening now.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are making not sense at all. Your understanding of evolution is childish. All species are intermediate species. All animals are changing right now as we speak. Evolution is not something that only happened in the past, it is happening now.

You have failed to zero in on my question. If animals are changing as you assert, then why areen't there any gradations (animals that are in transition from one species to another) or are you claiming (for example) that animals evolve abruptly from cell to a horse?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You have failed to zero in on my question. If animals are changing as you assert, then why areen't there any gradations (animals that are in transition from one species to another) or are you claiming (for example) that animals evolve abruptly from cell to a horse?

Humans are a transitional species. Example: wisdom teeth. We changed from what we were in the past to what we are now, and we will continue to change into what we will be in the future.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
You don't have any fossil records that prove human evolution, you may "think" that you do, but you don't. All humans have basic instinct. But animals "only" have instinct. You are comparing apples with Range Rovers.
Humans are actually very similar to other animals.