Atheism Test

Started by Shakyamunison23 pages
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Explain why you believe that humans are animals.

Animals are made up of living cells.
Animals have DNA to control their cells.
Animals ingest food to survive.
Animals reproduce sexually.

Do humans do the above?

Chimpanzees are animals (I believe you would agree) share 98% of their DNA structure in common with Humans.

If humans are not animals, why do animals have so much in common with humans?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If humans are not animals, why do animals have so much in common with humans?
I think the correct way to say this is why do humans have so much in common with animals since they outnumber us like a million to one 🙂

Originally posted by ThePittman
I think the correct way to say this is why do humans have so much in common with animals since they outnumber us like a million to one 🙂

Ya, but I'm talking to JIA. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Ya, but I'm talking to JIA. 😆
OOPS then I forgot to put every other word is "god is love" 😛

Wow am I reading correctly or did JIA use the "watch" example to disprove evolution?

💃 lolzazz

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Animals are made up of living cells.
Animals have DNA to control their cells.
Animals ingest food to survive.
Animals reproduce sexually.

Do humans do the above?

Chimpanzees are animals (I believe you would agree) share 98% of their DNA structure in common with Humans.

If humans are not animals, why do animals have so much in common with humans?

Animals cannot reason, show mercy, overthrow human government, read and write, perform mathematic operations, tell sinners how to be saved, invent "new" technology (the just build whatever God gave them instict to build e.g. nests, dams, burrows, etc). Human beings excel and exceed "animals" in all of these areas par excellence because we are not animals, we are created in God's image and likeness. We have many of God's capacities (i.e. the ability to reason, judge, think analytically, show mercy, compassion, love, etc.)

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Animals cannot reason, show mercy, overthrow human government, read and write, perform mathematic operations, tell sinners how to be saved, invent "new" technology (the just build whatever God gave them instict to build e.g. nests, dams, burrows, etc). Human beings excel and exceed "animals" in all of these areas par excellence because we are not animals, we are created in God's image and likeness. We have many of God's capacities (i.e. the ability to reason, judge, think analytically, show mercy, compassion, love, etc.)

We cannot see in the dark. We cannot use sound to find our way around. We cannot kill an antelope with our bare hands, or dive deep into the ocean without a sub.

We are an animal with great skills, but we are fragile. There are many things that other animals can do that we cannot.

Also JIA, my cat can and does love me. Therefore, cats and many other animals can feel emotions. Most lower animals, like my cat, have a hard time experiencing the 10 worlds, and spend most of their time in the world of Animality. Us human can experience 9 of the ten world, but even we have limits. We have a hard time experiencing the world of Buddhahood. But there are a few of us human animals who have experience Buddhahood, and I believe that Jesus is one of them.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
tell sinners how to be saved

AHAHAHAHA!

WE ARE TEH MONKEYZ!!!!!

Animals can't feel emotions?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Animals cannot reason, show mercy, overthrow human government, read and write, perform mathematic operations, tell sinners how to be saved, invent "new" technology (the just build whatever God gave them instict to build e.g. nests, dams, burrows, etc). Human beings excel and exceed "animals" in all of these areas par excellence because we are not animals, we are created in God's image and likeness. We have many of God's capacities (i.e. the ability to reason, judge, think analytically, show mercy, compassion, love, etc.)
I see that you know nothing of animal behavior or biology, animals learn, have social hierarchy and families, have feelings and emotions and even some create and use tools. Why would it make a difference if they can overthrow a government, the reason that many animals didn’t need to invent computers or whatever is because they have adapted to have special skills where we “humans” evolved our minds to overcome our physical limitations.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I see that you know nothing of animal behavior or biology, animals learn, have social hierarchy and families, have feelings and emotions and even some create and use tools. Why would it make a difference if they can overthrow a government, the reason that many animals didn’t need to invent computers or whatever is because they have adapted to have special skills where we “humans” evolved our minds to overcome our physical limitations.

I get the feeling that he is uneducated.

Originally posted by ThePittman
I see that you know nothing of animal behavior or biology, animals learn, have social hierarchy and families, have feelings and emotions and even some create and use tools. Why would it make a difference if they can overthrow a government, the reason that many animals didn’t need to invent computers or whatever is because they have adapted to have special skills where we “humans” evolved our minds to overcome our physical limitations.

Animals do "everything" instinctively as opposed to humans that must learn to walk, eat, drive, drink, fly an airplane, read, operate a train, write, nagivate a ship, cook, fly a helicopter, solve complex equations, analyze and interpret data, manufacture clothing, cooking utensils, tools, build a complex home, design an intricate computer program, harness electricity, subdue, train and domesticate many real animals within the animal kingdom, etc.

It makes a difference whether animals can overthrow a government because this capacity demonstrates certain intellectual capabilities that animals have not, do not, and will not ever possess.

No, humans have not evolved anything. The first man and woman were created with all of the capacity to reason, speak, analyze, judge, design, create and do all of the other things that humans are capable of doing that animals are not capable of doing. Similarity does not imply common ancestry with regard to humans and animals. There is absolutely no comparison between the two.

Intelligence has nothing to do with rather you are an animal or not. Animal is classification. By definition all humans are animals. Under the way you are thinking, retarded people are not human. This is what the Natzis thought.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Intelligence has nothing to do with rather you are an animal or not. Animal is classification. By definition all humans are animals. Under the way you are thinking, retarded people are not human. This is what the Natzis thought.

Why you focused on that "one" word (i.e. intelligence) is a mystery to me. I furnished a host of other qualities that are characteristic to humans and not animals. Sure, by "classification" humans are considered animals, but who made the classification? It was most likely an evolutionist.

However, putting a label on something does not put anything inside the thing. I could put a sticker on your head that reads "idiot," does that mean that you are an idiot? (Sorry if that example offended you.) So if a label is not based on fact it is just that: a label.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Why you focused on that "one" word (i.e. intelligence) is a mystery to me. I furnished a host of other qualities that are characteristic to humans and not animals. Sure, by "classification" humans are considered animals, [b]but who made the classification? It was most likely an evolutionist.

However, putting a label on something does not put anything inside the thing. I could put a sticker on your head that reads "idiot," does that mean that you are an idiot? (Sorry if that example offended you.) So if a label is not based on fact it is just that: a label. [/B]

LAMO.

The idea that we are not animals leads to the suffering of countless animals. We would be better to realize our place in the world.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Animals do "everything" instinctively as opposed to humans that must learn to walk, eat, drive, drink, fly an airplane, read, operate a train, write, nagivate a ship, cook, fly a helicopter, solve complex equations, analyze and interpret data, manufacture clothing, cooking utensils, tools, build a complex home, design an intricate computer program, harness electricity, subdue, train and domesticate many [b]real animals within the animal kingdom, etc.

It makes a difference whether animals can overthrow a government because this capacity demonstrates certain intellectual capabilities that animals have not, do not, and will not ever possess.

No, humans have not evolved anything. The first man and woman were created with all of the capacity to reason, speak, analyze, judge, design, create and do all of the other things that humans are capable of doing that animals are not capable of doing. Similarity does not imply common ancestry with regard to humans and animals. There is absolutely no comparison between the two. [/B]

Again you have demonstrated your lack of knowledge on this subject, much of what animals do is instinctively or genetically passed down from generation to generation but many species have demonstrated the use of tools and reason and the ability to learn complex tasks and to problem solve. Why would an animal need to overthrow a government, fly a plan or make a computer when it already has what it needs to survive? If you took away all of our technology and the ability to make tools we would disappear off the face of the Earth unless we adapted. Humans in their early development had the same instinctive drive as most animals, the couldn’t understand cause and effect just as many animals but as we evolved and our brains increases in size we were able to understand and develop many of the technologies that you speak of.

Originally posted by ThePittman
Again you have demonstrated your lack of knowledge on this subject, much of what animals do is instinctively or genetically passed down from generation to generation but many species have demonstrated the use of tools and reason and the ability to learn complex tasks and to problem solve. Why would an animal need to overthrow a government, fly a plan or make a computer when it already has what it needs to survive? If you took away all of our technology and the ability to make tools we would disappear off the face of the Earth unless we adapted. Humans in their early development had the same instinctive drive as most animals, the couldn’t understand cause and effect just as many animals but as we evolved and our brains increases in size we were able to understand and develop many of the technologies that you speak of.

The issue is not "why" would an animal do thus and so but "can" it do thus and so. That is my premise. Animals are not "capable" of doing what humans are capable of doing because they do not have the "intrinsic" ability to do what humans can do.

Humans do not process information instinctively, we process informaition "rationally."

No, humans did not evolve anything, the facts favor this.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
The issue is not "why" would an animal do thus and so by "can" it do thus and so. That is my premise. Animals are not "capable" or doing what humans are capable of doing because they do not have the "intrinsic" ability to do what humans can do.

Humans do not process information instinctively, we process informaiton "rationally."

No, humans did not evolve anything, the facts favor this.

People have a lot of instincts. A baby will find a breast and feed without using reason. A person can see faces in a random pattern, this is an instinct; humans that could identify a predator in the wild, where able to survive and pass on this trait.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Matter is energy, and energy cannot be created or destroyed. Therefore energy, and matter as a form of energy, is eternal.

Nothing in this universe is eternal (this violates the law of cause and effect).