Strong Guy vs Captain America

Originally posted by jrodslam
SG is a very good h2h combatant as well.

Yeah but obvously no where near Cap's level. Cap should be able to dodge SG all day.

Originally posted by Roldz
However sharp objects does work on him.. So i still say SG wins Majority 7-8/10..

Are you sure? Each combatant has basic knowldege of each other. Would this be considered basic knowledge....I don't think so. Considering that he knows that SG absorbs kinetic energy Cap would probably avoid using the edge of his shield.

Originally posted by Brutacus

So even iff you use pressure points, you have to strike him harder than other people to really hurt him, but than again a strike with enough force in it will only give him energy and make him stronger.

I guess so, but eventhough Cap would have to hit harder would this still be considered too low? For example if he could lift 100 tons maybe a 1 ton punch would be considered to be a touch in class 100 terms. Would this be too low to register....I dont know.

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Originally posted by Turok16
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Originally posted by Brutacus
Still shaw is not a 50 ton at base strenght, Strong guy is and since Strong guy's body is deformed, the pressure points may not work, since the place you have to hit him are out of place.

Actually that maybe true but what strength level was Shaw at when he was being immobilsed? If someone could get the scans this could help solve the problem. Because if he was at superhumans levels being restrained by a superhuman and he did not absorb the energy, then its possible for somebody without superhuman strength to apply enough force in a certain way to knock him out

He probably was at superhuman levels it has been said that when he wakes up he starts punching the walls in order to increase his strength.

Originally posted by Alfheim
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Still I say pressure points shouldn't be able to work, ok we are talking comics, but still the guy is a 50 tonner, he's muscle's are way stronger than a normal humans, so to strike him with a pressure point, you need force.
Force will make him stronger.

And to try to out judo a 50 tonner who knows streetfight doesn't really sound like a good idea, get to close the guy could crush you with a bearhug in 1 sec, and use his strenght nope you use his movement so iff he hits with his full body behind it or try to hit and stand his ground without going with the punch, it will be a lot harder to throw the guy, thrust me I know I done judo from wenn I was 6 year old till 18 year old.

So caps best way to defeat strong guy is to stay away, maybe wear him out, and try to defeat him with his speed, not stand toe to toe with they guy.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but obvously no where near Cap's level. Cap should be able to dodge SG all day.

Are you sure? Each combatant has basic knowldege of each other. Would this be considered basic knowledge....I don't think so. Considering that he knows that SG absorbs kinetic energy Cap would probably avoid using the edge of his shield.

[QUOTE] I guess so, but eventhough Cap would have to hit harder would this still be considered too low? For example if he could lift 100 tons maybe a 1 ton punch would be considered to be a touch in class 100 terms. Would this be too low to register....I dont know.

Yeah im sure, this is how Cyber managed to poisoned him.. A slight tap in the shoulder with his sharp claws then the 2 duked it out...

he is able to walk, run, the norm daily function w/out absorbing kinetic energy.. but on a comic panel his was shown jumping a few feet so as to absorb then unleashed it on a wall... A 1 ton punch should still register.. I think his only chance to win against SG is that shield but i dont think its sharp enough.. This is a very tough fight for Cap..

So caps best way to defeat strong guy is to stay away, maybe wear him out, and try to defeat him with his speed, not stand toe to toe with they guy.

Ok, so strong guy should be able to win this.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah but obvously no where near Cap's level. Cap should be able to dodge SG all day.

I know he isnt on Caps level of h2h combat and i never stated so, but hes still good enough to possibly cause Cap some probems. Even IF Cap dodged all day, he couldnt win the fight on that alone.

Cap's used pressure points on Hulk, so I'm not sure why people don't think it'd work on Strong Guy. But either way, if Cap HAD to win the battle, he'd probably just cut Strong Guy's throat with a shield toss. Cap's shield can cut through steel and I doubt Strong Guy's skin is stronger than steel.

Cap 9/10

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap's used pressure points on Hulk, so I'm not sure why people don't think it'd work on Strong Guy. But either way, if Cap HAD to win the battle, he'd probably just cut Strong Guy's throat with a shield toss. Cap's shield can cut through steel and I doubt Strong Guy's skin is stronger than steel.

Cap 9/10

It would not work on SG, you dont just lightly poke a pressure point to make it work, you apply pressure. And since SG is 50++ tons Cap will have to apple a little extra pressure that will just get absorbed. Very very simple logic.

Strong Guy for the win.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Cap's used pressure points on Hulk, so I'm not sure why people don't think it'd work on Strong Guy. But either way, if Cap HAD to win the battle, he'd probably just cut Strong Guy's throat with a shield toss. Cap's shield can cut through steel and I doubt Strong Guy's skin is stronger than steel.

Cap 9/10

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
It works on Hulk becaue Hulk does not absorb pressure to make himself stronger.

It would not work on SG, you dont just lightly poke a pressure point to make it work, you apply pressure. And since SG is 50++ tons Cap will have to apple a little extra pressure that will just get absorbed. Very very simple logic.

Either way, what's to stop Cap from slicing his throat open with his shield? Honestly curious.

Thats exactly how his powers works.. The only time his mutant ability to absorb impact energy nulled is when his releasing it... I quess that part of his body does not absorb, part thats releasing i mean..

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't think that's how it would work. But I haven't seen a whole lot of Strong Guy's fights. I think you guys are overestimating his powers. If his kinetic energy absorption powers were as extreme as say Bishop's, than I'd agree. Bishop has absorbed the tiny bit of energy that dissipates when a snow flake falls and melts on his body. If Strong Guy's power is like that, then I would agree with you.

Either way, what's to stop Cap from slicing his throat open with his shield? Honestly curious.

Euh strong guy is a 50 ton street fighter try to get close to that, he's not like hulk a pwer house he was a bodyguard so I'm sure he knows some form of self defends.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I don't think that's how it would work. But I haven't seen a whole lot of Strong Guy's fights. I think you guys are overestimating his powers. If his kinetic energy absorption powers were as extreme as say Bishop's, than I'd agree. Bishop has absorbed the tiny bit of energy that dissipates when a snow flake falls and melts on his body. If Strong Guy's power is like that, then I would agree with you.

Either way, what's to stop Cap from slicing his throat open with his shield? Honestly curious.

You're saying Cap couldn't slice Strong Guy's throat with a shield toss because Strong Guy knows how to defend himself? You're kidding me right? Have you seen the insane crap that Cap can do with that thing and how fast it is when it bounces around? Superhumans have trouble tracking that thing when it ricochets. From all the comics I've read, only people like Spidey and DD with their Spidey sense and radar sense know its flight path. And I suppose telepaths too. And I guess people with time-travel. And people with computer minds or tech. And...

... anyway, Strong Guy's got none of that. When's the last time Cap's thrown his shield and missed barring the above? I been reading Cap comics for ages and I honestly can't remember.

If this fight comes down to what you said, "He hits him then congrats. But if he misses... Cap is over," I sure as hell am gonna bet Cap is gonna nail him alright. Nine times out of ten.

Cap 9/10

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
You're saying Cap couldn't slice Strong Guy's throat with a shield toss because Strong Guy knows how to defend himself? You're kidding me right? Have you seen the insane crap that Cap can do with that thing and how fast it is when it bounces around? Superhumans have trouble tracking that thing when it ricochets. From all the comics I've read, only people like Spidey and DD with their Spidey sense and radar sense know its flight path. And I suppose telepaths too. And I guess people with time-travel. And people with computer minds or tech. And...

... anyway, Strong Guy's got none of that. When's the last time Cap's thrown his shield and missed barring the above? I been reading Cap comics for ages and I honestly can't remember.

If this fight comes down to what you said, "He hits him then congrats. But if he misses... Cap is over," I sure as hell am gonna bet Cap is gonna nail him alright. Nine times out of ten.

Cap 9/10

Who's throats, besides Ultron's, has 616 Cap slit with his shield?

He's threatened to slit Absorbing Man's throat. Are you saying that just because Cap never does kill, this is not a valid tactic to win a fight? This is KMC, not a Captain America comic. We assume these guys would do what was necessary to win.

If he had to and he believed it was the only way, he would. Cap's murdered before. He murdered the Red Skull in Captain America Vol 3, #17. Of course, he was able to go back in time and change his mind and "find another way."

EDIT: Oh, and just to give you a better example, Captain America cut off Baron Blood's head off with his shield. So there you go.