how do you feel about islam?

Started by Alfheim31 pages
Originally posted by Alliance
So the hallucinations you see under drugs are real?

Im not talking about taking drugs though. If somebody believes in angels and can see angels that can be proof that they exist. Hallucination is just another way of saying "I cant see it therefore its not real."

I can see gods and other worlds but that is through meditation. Also there are some mathematicians who hear voices frequently and have used them to help come up with formulas.

At the end of the day if you can see or hear them and you can use them to affect your reality for positive or negative that can be considered to be real.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Im not talking about taking drugs though. If somebody believes in angels and can see angels that can be proof that they exist. Hallucination is just another way of saying "I cant see it therefore its not real."

I can see gods and other worlds but that is through meditation. Also there are some mathematicians who hear voices frequently and have used them to help come up with formulas.

At the end of the day if you can see or hear them and you can use them to affect your reality for positive or negative that can be considered to be real.


But Hallucination is all about not releasing that what you are seeing is not real...no?
Or rather, being unable to recongise what is real and what is not.

Although ''real'' is a whole different argument.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
But Hallucination is all about not releasing that what you are seeing is not real...no?
Or rather, being unable to recongise what is real and what is not.

Although ''real'' is a whole different article.

Yes but the thing is if you can use a hallucination to affect the real world for positive change then that can be considered to be real. The same way a hammer is real because you can use it to hit a nail. The problem is the concept of reality when you come down to it is very subjective.

Nobody here believes in ghost 😈

Originally posted by Fatima
You mean believing that gays would go to hell 😄

Nobody blames women for their own rape you idiot ..🤨

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Yea but still an moral and religious issue ..

Well , Islam is not closed minded it said the truth..bcoz humans are not homosexuals by nature and people become homosexuals because of their environments.

There are five references in the Qur'an, which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with “effeminate men” and “masculine women.” The two main references to homosexual behavior are in Surah 7, verses 80 – 81, where the Qur’an says that:

*{We also sent Lut. He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation [ever] committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds.}*

Then Surah 26, verse 165 says that:
*{What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk.}*

Both references relate to gay sexual activities; lesbian practices are not mentioned in the Qur'an. Lut is referred to as "Lot" in the Hebrew Scriptures. This passage is an apparent reference to the activities at Sodom and Gamorah.

It seems to imply that there was no homosexual behavior before it first appeared in Sodom. This is a uniquely Islamic concept; it does not appear in Jewish or Christian beliefs. The passage also links the sin of Sodom - the reason for its destruction - to homosexuality.

If Muslims are to be blamed for anything, it is perhaps that they have not spoken sufficiently loudly about the achievements of Islam over the centuries. How may people in the world today, for example, know about the advances in medicine, mathematics, and astronomy brought to the world by Muslims?

In our own day, too, Muslim scholars have worked to show how both the Noble Qur'an and the sayings of Prophet Muhammad (BPUH)
Knowledge about the universe and the human body, discovered only recently, has been there within the core of Islam since its very beginning. Those who would wrongly portray Islam and Muslims as strangers to education and science need go no further than Prophet Muhammad himself, who urged all Muslims to seek knowledge since it was so important. Muslim men and women are constantly urged to be the best they can be, educating themselves and developing their abilities.

WRONG! 😆
Neanderthal where thought to practice some form of homosexuality,but of course you all are in denial by not believing evolution which means you basically denies all forms of science......can you say ignorant?

Fatima-Nobody blames women for their own rape you idiot

Yes they do its common in Islamic nations

Originally posted by Eis
The Islamic religion adopts dangerous, violent doctrines. Clearly stating that if you don't follow their teachings and accept God and Muhammad you go to hell. Therefore, yes, I would say say Islam is not a peaceful religion.

Which is different from so many Christians clearly stating "if you don't follow our teachings and accept God and Jesus you go to hell" how exactly?

The way I see it not a single one of the the main monotheistic religions in existence today is above extremism, be it in views, or actions, simply due to their nature and to the degrees people can interpret them and use them to justify their own world views.

Yes but the thing is if you can use a hallucination to affect the real world for positive change then that can be considered to be real. The same way a hammer is real because you can use it to hit a nail. The problem is the concept of reality when you come down to it is very subjective.

How so? If I claim to see a talking lettuce that tells me I have to dedicate my life to helping the poor, and I do so and do my own little part in making the world a better place... then can my talking lettuce be considered real? To be honest I would think it is the hallucinating person that matters here, the fact they are able to do something, not because they had a hallucination that motivated them to do something.

Tell me - was Joan of Arc really hearing the voice of God? What about those people who swear angels or Muhammad or visions appeared to them and, I don't know, told them to kill their children (and this has happened) - are they real?

The flying spaghetti monster tells me to light fires.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The flying spaghetti monster tells me to light fires.

But that's different - we all know the flying spaghetti monster is real.

In fact if I am not mistaken when it took Jesus on in a grudge match it was a Spaghetti took Jesus to the cleaners, even with the Luchador mask Jesus was wearing.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura
But that's different - we all know the flying spaghetti monster is real.

In fact if I am not mistaken when it took Jesus on in a grudge match it was a Spaghetti took Jesus to the cleaners, even with the Luchador mask Jesus was wearing.

He's scheduled to take on your Lettuce friend in the battle of the quarter millennium.

Thou shalt not worship false produce.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's scheduled to take on your Lettuce friend in the battle of the quarter millennium.

Thou shalt not worship false produce.

I guess I could try to hallucinate lettuce beating flying spaghetti monster (which would work since apparently hallucinations can be real) but I strongly suspect it will end in sex.

Food porn in the religious forum? Outrageous.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I see gods and other dimensions. Im not scitzo and I dont take mushrooms im able to do it through meditation.

You dont have to be mad or take drugs to see thing.

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Originally posted by Alfheim
Being able to see angels and gods for starters is evidence.

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Originally posted by Imperial_Samura

How so? If I claim to see a talking lettuce that tells me I have to dedicate my life to helping the poor, and I do so and do my own little part in making the world a better place... then can my talking lettuce be considered real?

Why not, if you believe that everything has intelligence? The only reason why you think its not real is because you have a different view of reality. My reality doesnt fit yours therefore you're wrong.

Originally posted by Imperial_Samura

Tell me - was Joan of Arc really hearing the voice of God? What about those people who swear angels or Muhammad or visions appeared to them and, I don't know, told them to kill their children (and this has happened) - are they real?

So just because your hear a voice or you have a vision means that you should listen to it?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The flying spaghetti monster tells me to light fires.

Well obvoulsy thats a joke, but all you seem to be stating is that some hallucinations if listened to can be dangerous therefore they are not real. Doesn't really seem to prove anything.

Originally posted by jasonk3
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Note the bit were I say meditation.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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Of course you cant see angels, therefore they are not real.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Of course you cant see angels, therefore they are not real.

Ever heard of Nike ? 😉

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ever heard of Nike ? 😉

Yeah and?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah and?

Ever heard of Hermes ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Ever heard of Hermes ?

and?

Originally posted by Alfheim
and?

Do you think they are real ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Do you think they are real ?

Yes, but I deal with norse gods.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes, but I deal with norse gods.

Kali can kick anyone's ass