how do you feel about islam?

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Originally posted by Quiero Mota
Muslims can't be gay.

Being a *** is a capital crime in Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran and Pakistan.

Yes. Those countries are well known for thier "forwardness."

I guess that's why the Iraq chatroom on gay.com is always empty.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Then why are there Muslims being executed for being Gay ?

Why are there Muslims trying to fight for Gay Rights in current Iraq ? 😕

Really? I never heard of such a thing occuring, especially in Iraq.

Or anwhere really in the Middle East....

Yea its crime but Quran never mention to kill gays , In my country they just send them to jail and treat them if they need help ..

Originally posted by Fatima
Yea its crime but Quran never mention to kill gays, In my country they just send them to jail and treat them if they need help ..

eek2

TREAT THEM!?!?

Reparative therapy... it exists.

Originally posted by Fatima
Yea its crime but Quran never mention to kill gays

Yes, but the laws in those countries are based on nothing but interpretation. Sharia is nothing but how some vato thinks it should be.

"Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people grossly ignorant! But his people gave no other answer but this: They said, "Drive out the followers of Lut from your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" But We saved him and his family, except his wife; her We destined to be of those who lagged behind. And We rained down on them a shower of brimstone!; and evil was the shower on those who were admonished, but heeded not!"

-The Koran 27:55-58

Ok, that line speaks against gay people, but why do the law makers in those various countries interpret it as "We must kill all f.ags!!!" ?

Originally posted by Fatima
Yea its crime but Quran never mention to kill gays , In my country they just send them to jail and treat them if they need help ..

Which is bullshit, we all agree, right?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Reparative therapy... it exists.

People who use something like that should be put in jail and treated.

It's not a bad thing.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It's not a bad thing.

Altering a persons personality is very very bad.

Personally I consider behavior madification to be just about as perverse and evil as anything could ever be.

Originally posted by Nellinator
It's not a bad thing.

If they want to use it, sure, it isn't. Thing is it doesn't work. Generally. There are no unbiased pieces of evidence to support it. Homosexuality is most likely not chosen and can not be changed if not by drastic measurements (destroying the brain with a hammer, maybe).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Altering a persons personality is very very bad.

Personally I consider behavior madification to be just about as perverse and evil as anything could ever be.


Is it not correct to recondition overly aggressive children? Is anger management a bad thing? Those are part of people's personalities.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Is it not correct to recondition overly aggressive children? Is anger management a bad thing? Those are part of people's personalities.

If it is forced. It also depends on the methods.

True enough.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Is it not correct to recondition overly aggressive children? Is anger management a bad thing? Those are part of people's personalities.

To pick apart a person's personality when they have done nothing to harm you is wrong. Beyond that it is near the level of irreconcialble evil.

There are things on which I give people leeway but forcing people to change just because you don't like who they are will never be one of them.

They do have to want to do it, in which case it is available and studies (albeit not peer reviewed) have been done on it. Since this is the case in North America, it is not a bad thing.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Reparative therapy... it exists.

You neglected to mention:

[list][*]It does not work.

[*]Is harmful.

[*]Is condemned by every reputable mental health organization.[/list]

Originally posted by Fatima
Yea its crime but Quran never mention to kill gays , In my country they just send them to jail and treat them if they need help ..

Homosexuality is not an illness and does not require treatment.
Originally posted by Nellinator
Reparative therapy... it exists.

There is no conclusive data that shows ex-gay reparative therapy is possible.

People are taught techniques on how to suppress their feelings, but they are not "healed".