Originally posted by darthgoober
I actually think I understand what's being said now. So I will admit that yes, in his true form, Darkseid would beat Thanos 10/10, due to size advantage. However, if Thanos used a boom tube to blow up to equal size... that would be a different story.
Alright, I think your starting to understand, even if Thanos went through a boom tube, I doubt he would be able to defeat DS though, check out the issue Supes went through a boom tube.
Ok this is about the ALE
Okay, one last time: what is up with Cosmic Odyssey?
Sean - It's all about the Anti-Life Entity. The Anti-Life Entity was a concept Jim Starlin created, that totally didn't mix with anything that had been defined before. In COSMIC ODYSSEY, Starlin established that the ALE was an actual being which plotted to destroy the universe (by destroying certain worlds that would in turn destroy the whole shebang).
First off, the ALE was not an Entity, but an Equation, as defined by "the King" himself. It gave its user total control over all living things. But in the process of creating and defining this entity, Starlin decided to redo the New Gods' actual origin: instead of being descended from the "Old Gods," they were descended from plain old aliens with great technological constructs and weapons; in their eagerness to expand their knowledge, they destroyed themselves. And thus, in the midst of the chaos, New Genesis and Apokolips were born. Since Kirby's New Gods is more beloved by many creators and fans than non-Kirby New Gods, this major development was ignored. And since this was all the main thrust of the miniseries, the miniseries itself is considered non-canon by DC.
Originally posted by Jesse7I'm not underestimating him.
Secondly you underestimate Supes, T-vo has shown to be able to take down multiversal powers/beings/abstracts as Dom was outside of existence and is multiversal and beyond stated by KISMET.
Originally posted by Jesse7I don't have a problem with him.
Supes is powerful, he is the DC symbol, its not my fault you have a problem with it.
Originally posted by Jesse7So, that also means that Spiderman vs Firelord, was a great showing.
Comic statments and on panel showings>your opinion.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I never disputed their size, I disputed their reletive power. And as I just said, if Thanos was tiny to Darkseid, then he would lose 10/10. But if Thanos used a boom tube, it would be a different story.
Kinda true. Superman Got bigger, but he was still not upgraded enough to do any relative dmg when he was needed. The real deal is that if DS were ever able to figure out how to make himself smaller, without depowering, everyone would be in a shit load of trouble. As is now, The source wont' allow it.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Ok this is about the ALEOkay, one last time: what is up with Cosmic Odyssey?
Sean - It's all about the Anti-Life Entity. The Anti-Life Entity was a concept Jim Starlin created, that totally didn't mix with anything that had been defined before. In COSMIC ODYSSEY, Starlin established that the ALE was an actual being which plotted to destroy the universe (by destroying certain worlds that would in turn destroy the whole shebang).
First off, the ALE was not an Entity, but an Equation, as defined by "the King" himself. It gave its user total control over all living things. But in the process of creating and defining this entity, Starlin decided to redo the New Gods' actual origin: instead of being descended from the "Old Gods," they were descended from plain old aliens with great technological constructs and weapons; in their eagerness to expand their knowledge, they destroyed themselves. And thus, in the midst of the chaos, New Genesis and Apokolips were born. Since Kirby's New Gods is more beloved by many creators and fans than non-Kirby New Gods, this major development was ignored. And since this was all the main thrust of the miniseries, the miniseries itself is considered non-canon by DC.
This would explain why in that series DS needed The ALE. As it stands, the true ALE is still multiversal in power and an Item of power and not a sentient being.
Originally posted by Jesse7Ok, then, since they adjust to the place they are in, then how does this equate that he wasn't the real Darkseid.
Alright, I think your starting to understand, even if Thanos went through a boom tube, I doubt he would be able to defeat DS though, check out the issue Supes went through a boom tube.
Sure, he might be powerful as a big form. But I bet if someone as powerful as him, when he's small, then they would be as powerful as him, when he's big.
Do you get it?
Originally posted by Jesse7
[QUOTE=7469409]Originally posted by darthgoober
[B]Thanos would kick Supes ass, so what's that got to do with anything? [/QUOTEMy point was, when using a boom tube a non newgod doesnt gain their powers. [/B]
Originally posted by bigbran
Eternity is a F***ing universe buddy!! He's an abstract, all knowing.
He knows all, or most of what goes on in his universe.Eternity observes....everything!!
Can you tell me anything that would point to Highfather as being as knowing as Eternity?
This is also funny, because I can accept, that Ion can remake and unmake the multiverse. Spectre stated it.
Highfather is connected to the source. He knew what DS was doing Millions of Light years away to other pantheons. So yeah, he stated that DS's power had superpassed anything that they could stand up to. And High father already had the power to shake galaxies when him and DS fought. dont' get mad at me. I'm taking Eternity's word, and High Fathers. I'm just saying it seems a bit unfair to take one character's word and not another one.
Originally posted by Roldz
Yah but if you also read that issue non of the new gods could fixed that rip in reality but Supes was able too.. So with all those powers you guys are mentioning about new gods, how come they were still not on par w/ Supes even in there own world...
NO one in all of comics, Not the beyonder, not darksied, nor parallax, nor mxy can escape the all consuming power of the Jobber aura that is superman. God I hate him.
Originally posted by bigbran
I'm not underestimating him.
I bet you would accept Thor beating Eternity, though, wouldn't you?
Plus, is there any hard evidence to back up exactly how powerful Kismet is?
I don't have a problem with him.
I have a problem, with him supposedly being able to take down a multiversal foe. That is, of course, if he really is multiversal.
Basically, I have a problem with pis, and it being used in arguements.So, that also means that Spiderman vs Firelord, was a great showing.
Since I wouldn't be allowed to argue against it.
Kismet is as powerful as Multi Eternity. She's the Guardian of ALL DCU realities.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlAgain, how does this equate into him being as all knowing as Eternity?
Highfather is connected to the source. He knew what DS was doing Millions of Light years away to other pantheons. So yeah, he stated that DS's power had superpassed anything that they could stand up to. And High father already had the power to shake galaxies when him and DS fought. dont' get mad at me. I'm taking Eternity's word, and High Fathers. I'm just saying it seems a bit unfair to take one character's word and not another one.
And Surfer has seen people from great distances too. I still wouldn't take his word, for stuff like that.
Plus, this post also says that he wasn't as powerful as Galactus, since Galactus and Tyrant, destroyed countless galaxies, instead of shook them.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Highfather is connected to the source. He knew what DS was doing Millions of Light years away to other pantheons. So yeah, he stated that DS's power had superpassed anything that they could stand up to. And High father already had the power to shake galaxies when him and DS fought. dont' get mad at me. I'm taking Eternity's word, and High Fathers. I'm just saying it seems a bit unfair to take one character's word and not another one.