Originally posted by Kaled
Sephiroth can change the weather without even trying, he made and entire building collapse in an instant, Link has never demostrated such feats
Link can advance time via the use of the Ocarina of Time, go figure. And Sephiroth didn't really change the weather. All he did was summon the negative lifestream.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
The old lady who read Link those stories. It was said many times in the game that the giants could only be summoned from 100 paces from the ocean, swamp, mountains, and canyon which was the clock tower.Cloud WTFpwned Sin Bahamut that charged up a powerful mega flare and went straight through it. Those giants wouldn't be a problem for Cloud. Link would be a sitting duck basically. He wouldn't be able to move nearly as fast as Cloud or Sephiroth and isn't even near their strength even with the golden gauntlets.
A) Cloud had backup from the entire FF7 party
B) Aerith healed Cloud as he went through Bahamut's Flare, he would've died had she not aided him
Who's to say Link wouldn't be able to move as fast as Cloud or Sephiroth? They just appeared in a flashy CGI movie. That's all.
Originally posted by Kaled
Heartless angel - Reduces enemy health and mana to 0Supernova - causes shit loads of damage and causes a stat of confusion
are the major magic powers Links gonna be trashed by.
Them aside, Spehiorth is an elite swordsman who fought in a War, we were never told much about this war but its gives you the gist it was some kinda world war. In this war Sephiroth was renoun and feared for his skills. So we KNOW he's a very skills swordsman, you've seen in AC how fast he can be, and if you've played Kingdom Heartyhs what where Seph and cloud go all out, so fast you can barely see whats happening its awesome. The Lenght of his sowrd with automatically give him an advantage over link in a stand up fight as i'm sure your aware. He can make big ass fire black around him the seriously hurt anyone close not to mention the fact it pulls them into it. He can fly, could be very crucial considering the battle is taking pace on top of a skyscraper. Teleportation, just worth mentioning he does like to spam this in fights to get the edge on his foes.
Ok i answered your question so answer mine:
Whats stopping them leaping at Link and forcing him off the skyscraper? (Link would die from the fall, and IF he didn't i'm sure seph would bring the scraper ontop of Links head)
As for Cloud... well deal with Omni-Slash first okay?
Heartless Angel & Super Nova are irrelevant for this match up.
Realistic speaking the length of his sword will render Sephiroth useless. However this isn't real, and it doesn't matter because Link's Hyrulian or Mirror shield will protect him from the Masamune's length. Link can teleport as well. Only real advantage Sephiroth has is flying.
Link can teleport himself back to the skyscrapper or use the hook shot to swing himself back to safety.
Nayrou's love can protect Link from Sephiroth's building collapsing stunt & Cloud's omnislash.
Originally posted by Kaled
it was discussed a awhile back that in these kind of films just becuase the power was not used, does NOT mean it was not albe to do it, "AC version" is just distingusing it between Safer Sephiroth unless stated otherwise. and because it is not, we must assume Sephiroth is indeed equipped with his fully power set.Ugh yes it does. Think logically if he was feared in a war then he must hve had exceptional skills. Has Link fought in a full on war? War are often usedto define the most skilled fighters e.i. Lu Bu
What are you kidding me? Fly not a big advantage?? in a city?? revise your statement. Arrows ain't going to hit him, look back to what has been said Sephiroth has been in a war, with guns that are like 10 times faster than arrows.... master sword comes into play when he hits sephiroth .... not going to happen.
Now state clear proof of Links skills with a sword, he's suerior strength and how he is fast enough to take on BOTH cloud and sephiroth.
Anyway, the sheer pyshics of cloud sword being swung against the master sword would result in a knock effect reguardless of how strong link is, he couldn't possibly fend off cloud and sephiroth... not even in a fanboys dreamworld
Sephiroth didn't perform any magic in AC and it stands to reason he can't.
Cloud & Sephiroth having superior strength than Link? Link can lift very heavy things, and I've never seen Sephiroth nor Cloud lift anything in AC.
The Buster Sword's weight > Master Sword would be effective if the Master Sword wasn't a mytical sword whose power surpasses the Frist Tsurugi.
I do not think he could beat them both, but he WILL give them a hell of a fight.
Originally posted by Kaled
Super nova is the different and his form also grants his dam near immortality so thats what.same way the connection is made between all the Links, its the same character different game
i can't believe i have to spell this out for you. To Survive a war when your on the front lines its takes more than "constant battle" skill, it takes serious power when your weapon is a sword and eveeryone else's is a gun. We know Sephiroth can evade bullets, they mean he is nimble and can move his weapon very quickly. now PROOF to me link can match this. no more suppossing or i will ingore your point of aruement becuase it is not backed up by fact.
do they travel 5000 meters per second? because unless they go faster, sephiroth can skill evade them
do you honestly think he's going to have the time to do anythink else? with cloud and sephiroth constantly hacking away
those gauntlets are for lifting only, they can't be used in a fight, so this "strength" is irrelevent
Yet, sephiroth is able clash swords with cloud and his sword remains in his hand. It's clear who the fanboy is, especially when you asked me to prove links physical strength. 😆 [/B
dude its sheer pyshics he cannot fend themboth off unless he can move his arms as fast as a humming bird beats its wingsSo it turns out most of links strengths here are based on a load of crap.
And for your infomation Link vs Cloud and Link vs Sephiroth link lost in everyone, so how can he hope to beat them both??
To be honest they fought in Wutai, and I doubt they fought him with firearms there considering their heavily influenced feudal Japan design and style.
Discussing physics about video game characters is not smart at all.
Why is Link's strength a load of crap? He has actually lifted heavy stuff while Cloud and Link haven't lifted shit bedies their swords.
It's plausible Link can split Cloud & Sephiroth by using his teleportation, and then it becomes a one on one. Also did Sephiroth ever really teleport in AC? I guess no, unless my memory is failing.
Originally posted by Kaled
no, its that i make a point and you pick out the smallest words and assume i mean something completely different and its really really annoying because you've done it 11 times alreadytriforce is not an item thus does not count, its like saying Sephiroth aquires the life stream so he is Safer Sephiroth
the cloak can be dispelled, you think cloud doesn't have such as simple power?
Heartless angel, locks on to anything with life force and ends it
Link's High End Feats >>>>> Sephiroth's high end feats
TriForce >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Safer Sephiroth
Shit Cloud and his gang raped Safer Seph while he was being contantly fueled by the lifestream. TriForce wielding Link could just wish Sephiroth, Cloud & Co. along with the entireFF7 world erased from existence.
Heartless Angel is irrelevant for this matchup. Besides Link dies, and is then instantly revived by a fairy.
Originally posted by ESB -1138
Maybe you lack commonsense but someone who threw Sin Bahamut down with little ease and even went straight through a charged up mega flare and still killed Sin Bahamut would WTFpwn Link. Not just that but also Blade Beam would be a nice long distance attack for Cloud and Omnislash Version 5 would kill Link. Link wouldn't know what happened.Sephiroth alone is faster then Cloud and would just cause the sky scrapper to fall like he did the Shin-Ra building in Advent Children.
Let me remind you Cloud survived through Bahamut's flare because of Aerith.
Mirror shield renders Blade Beam useless.
Omnislash version 5 takes quite a long time to even start. Link can:
a) teleport out of harm's way
b) cast nayriou's love and render himself invulnerable
c) stop/advance/slow time via Ocarina of Time
Take your pick.
He can only do so much with skyscrappers. What will happen when he runs out of buildings to destroy? Exactly.
Actually, if you think about it, he kinda can.
You can do it in MM, but you would think it's only the time. But if you watch the people, they are to move like from place A to place B, from 12 o clock, to 1 o clock. When Link slows down time it takes them twice the time to go there, because they are slowed down with time. Link however, is not...
So they are slowed to half their regular speed, unless I'm missing something here....
Originally posted by kamikz
Actually, if you think about it, he kinda can.You can do it in MM, but you would think it's only the time. But if you watch the people, they are to move like from place A to place B, from 12 o clock, to 1 o clock. When Link slows down time it takes them twice the time to go there, because they are slowed down with time. Link however, is not...
So they are slowed to half their regular speed, unless I'm missing something here....
This is pretty much because they are on a strict schedule in the game. If they were to go their normal speed after your slowed down time, all the events would be out of place. Also none of the enemies get slowed down.