Originally posted by ESB Vader
EU does not contradict the movies, if so leland chee would step in and so far he hasnt, point? point is that it didnt contradictEU not canon? then that means NEC is bullsh!t, EU is canon, just that lucas doesnt care
There's actually several things Leland Chee has not directly stated are a contradiction. They are within LFL's "Holocron Database" or whatever, which is not viewable by the public. Contradictions and such are noted in there, so it's not uncommon for him not to just go out and say "Hey! Contradiciton a'hoy!".
Originally posted by ESB Vader
EU does not contradict the movies, if so leland chee would step in and so far he hasnt, point? point is that it didnt contradictEU not canon? then that means NEC is bullsh!t, EU is canon, just that lucas doesnt care
EU is not canon in the sense the world is generally used, as pertaining to the films.
Obviously EU has its own canon, which is what the NEC is for.
You can't say 'Lucas doesn't care' implying he is wrong. When it comes to Star Wars, he can't be wrong- he is the man who sets the very definition of right and wrong in Star Wars related matters.
i would say its generally accepted that vader is slower than the average jedi/sith. that doesnt mean hes a slow fighter, or that its a serious disadvantage. hes still very powerful with the force and his ability to see things before they happen is probably better than most force users, giving him a wider window to move around in.
his movement speed might be slower than some other saber users but if he can see things before they happen, and see them before his opponent it would effetively compensate for it. just like the force upping anakins reflexes for pod racing, obi wan said hed need jedi relexes for it, knowing what he needs to do just before he needs to do it. that would explain vaders seemingly sluggish movement but his ability to defeat skilled jedi in combat.
it would explain crimson empire pretty well too, he was said to have looked like he was just toying with one of the emperors guards in training, hed still be fast for a normal human, and knowing what his oponent is thinking and how their going to attack without them being able to do the same would make them look pretty poor in comparison, even if they were slightly faster than vader. this coupled with his power and whoever hes fighting having to recoil from every swing of his saber would make him a very effective fighter.
to me this seems like the a pretty logical explaination. anakin hated the suit and talked about how hard it was to fight in in rise of vader and although he would have improved alot from when its set to when some other eu stuff is set he wouldnt have been in any way as fast as he used to be. he compensates for his slow movement by calling on the force to help him predict his enemys movements. slow is of course a reletive term when talking about any force users compaired to non force using humans.
which you know is complete and utter crap. Had Alec Guiness been in a movie that was made with digital technology, he would be moving just as Dooku did. Or had they put Christopher Lee in the OT, he would have been slow as hell too. It's just GL trying to rationalize why the movies look so different due to movie technology. He said they were slow cause it was an old man vs a machine man...Dooku wasn't slow, GG wasn't slow. I tell ya, when GL shovels it, he sure gets it flying. I don't buy that "they don't practice with sabers as much." crap, but thats the BS that Lucas feeds us some we have to take it and smile...
Originally posted by Darth SubjektThis a "what if." What if there was digital, computer technological whateveritis? Star Wars would be rather different. To keep up with the chronology, he couldn't have said that "For some reason, the entire Star Wars galaxy got slower, dirtier and rougher and fell into low-defintion by the time of the OT."
which you know is complete and utter crap. Had Alec Guiness been in a movie that was made with digital technology, he would be moving just as Dooku did. Or had they put Christopher Lee in the OT, he would have been slow as hell too. It's just GL trying to rationalize why the movies look so different due to movie technology. He said they were slow cause it was an old man vs a machine man...Dooku wasn't slow, GG wasn't slow. I tell ya, when GL shovels it, he sure gets it flying. I don't buy that "they don't practice with sabers as much." crap, but thats the BS that Lucas feeds us some we have to take it and smile...
The reason he came up with the "out of practise" thing was because he needed an answer for the sudden decrease in speed and power from the Force-users. This was the only feasible explanation.