Captain America vs The Thing

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Originally posted by braz
omg this thread is REDICULOUS!!!!...fear blowup

the thing would crush steven, no questions about it. whats he gunna do to thing,?? what, honestly, hes made of fuggin rock for petes sake, and cap has his fists, and a shield for blunt trauma which wont do shyt to som1 whos in class 90 strength with skin made of rock.
Thing takes this 10/10.

and the only reason wolvie would have a chance against thing IMO is cuz of his claws and agility, which makes a big difference.

Caps knocked over some pretty hardcore characters with that shield, King Thor and Wolverine included. Real life Physics don't really apply to it. Mind you it is made from a Vibranium alloy, which may explain that a bit. I think Ultimate Cap, would anhilate Ultimate Thing.

So why cant Captain America do this to The Thing?

I dont think Cap will take the majority but he can hurt The Thing, and probably pull off a couple of wins.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So you can debate without logic?
of course i do, even more so when its shown on pannel

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Cap can't take bullets in the head, and Hulk hits harder than bullets, tell me how that makes ANY sense.
It has happened my friend i dont make the rules, like i said before if you think its crap then write Marvel

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So Cap is more menacing/durable than those guys, you are just contradicting yourself. 😆
where did i say he was? show me? you said it wasnt a fair showing for hulk, and i explained to you that it was

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I love this logic, because it happened it happened. We all know that Spiderman beat a herald right, it happened so that means we automatically put it in the forum with it's modifiers?
Again if you dont choose to believe what happened in the "Ultimates" thats fine with me..... the point is that it DID happen, no PIS/CIS..... it happened

Originally posted by thedude1948
So why cant Captain America do this to The Thing?

I dont think Cap will take the majority but he [b]can hurt The Thing, and probably pull off a couple of wins. [/B]

maybe because its a PIS? ben is made out of a rock he doesn't have pressure points his whole body is a solid rock , tell me again how can a human arm damage a rock? Rock that is durable to blasts and hits from characters like hulk and namor? do you really think that even lets say ben does have pressure points.... do you think a human arm or leg can make enough pressure to press a rock???

Not. Without. PIS.

Originally posted by thedude1948
So why cant Captain America do this to The Thing?

I dont think Cap will take the majority but he [b]can hurt The Thing, and probably pull off a couple of wins. [/B]

Thats interesting, I've seen scans where Sasquatch is apprently staing himself to be stronger than Benn.

Originally posted by galan7777777

Again if you dont choose to believe what happened in the "Ultimates" thats fine with me..... the point is that it DID happen, no PIS/CIS..... it happened

so you say that bone claw wolverine cutting galactus is fair? because it did happen

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
so you say that bone claw wolverine cutting galactus is fair? because it did happen
"the ultimates" is MUCH different then "what if" comics my boy

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
maybe because its a PIS? ben is made out of a rock he doesn't have pressure points his whole body is a solid rock , tell me again how can a human arm damage a rock? Rock that is durable to blasts and hits from characters like hulk and namor? do you really think that even lets say ben does have pressure points.... do you think a human arm or leg can make enough pressure to press a rock???

Apparently you are wrong since on-panel it shows Ben having pressure points (Hulk too).

Originally posted by King KAM
decpitate him....
I find it hilarious that people say stuff like this, yet when a Wolverine fan claims Logan can decapitate Thing with SHARP claws that HAVE cut Thing it is ruled a BS statement from Wolvy-fanboys.
Originally posted by galan7777777
like i said read the Ultimates, Cap HAS taken such punches
That's in the ULTIMATE Universe where Cap is about 10 times stronger and more durable than he is in the main stream Marvel U. And even in the Ultimate Universe it's complete BS that Cap didn't explode when Hulk hit him. He's not bulletproof, he has no armor, and his bones are not unbreakable. That's what we call Mark Millar's Man-Crush on Captain America, not a realistic feat by any means.
Originally posted by galan7777777
the point is that he HAS taken NUMEROUS punches from the Hulk who is MUCH Stronger then The Thing on pannel
Numerous? NUMEROUS??? Ultimate Cap took like 1 punch from Hulk and was then helpless until Thor showed up. And that one punch had to be one of Hulk's weakest punches to not splatter Cap's gray matter. An injured Hulk that had just taken 3 direct shots from Thor's hammer was able to punch Thor (who actually has invulnerability) across a city block.
Originally posted by thedude1948
So why cant Captain America do this to The Thing?
Because he doesn't have Gamora's speed, strength, or fighting skills. He also doesn't have Sasquatch there to help him distract Thing to give him an opening.

Thing 9/10

Cap gets one win thanks to some crazy Shield tech and prep.

Originally posted by thedude1948
Apparently you are wrong since on-panel it shows Ben having pressure points (Hulk too).

was it showed again? were there any other fights that show ben having pressure points? and even if he can you know that to press a pressure point you have to create a pressure on the body , tell me how can a human arm or leg create any pressure on solid rock?

Originally posted by galan7777777
"the ultimates" is MUCH different then "what if" comics my boy

no matter how different the universe are there is still something called logic

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
was it showed again? were there any other fights that show ben having pressure points? and even if he can you know that to press a pressure point you have to create a pressure on the body , tell me how can a human arm or leg create any pressure on solid rock?

Was it ever shown that The Thing doesnt get hurt by pressure points?

Originally posted by riceroost
I find it hilarious that people say stuff like this, yet when a Wolverine fan claims Logan can decapitate Thing with SHARP claws that HAVE cut Thing it is ruled a BS statement from Wolvy-fanboys.
That's in the ULTIMATE Universe where Cap is about 10 times stronger and more durable than he is in the main stream Marvel U. And even in the Ultimate Universe it's complete BS that Cap didn't explode when Hulk hit him. He's not bulletproof, he has no armor, and his bones are not unbreakable. That's what we call Mark Millar's Man-Crush on Captain America, not a realistic feat by any means.
Numerous? NUMEROUS??? Ultimate Cap took like 1 punch from Hulk and was then helpless until Thor showed up. And that one punch had to be one of Hulk's weakest punches to not splatter Cap's gray matter. An injured Hulk that had just taken 3 direct shots from Thor's hammer was able to punch Thor (who actually has invulnerability) across a city block.
Because he doesn't have Gamora's speed, strength, or fighting skills. He also doesn't have Sasquatch there to help him distract Thing to give him an opening.

Thing 9/10

Cap gets one win thanks to some crazy Shield tech and prep.

Agreed , although i believe that based on past showings both Cap and Wolverine should be capable of piercing Thing with their respective weapons. I also think its retarded when immensely stronger characters have little to no effect on characters with minimal durability. Its absurd as believing that a truck wouldn't harm a child at high speeds.

Originally posted by riceroost
That's in the ULTIMATE Universe where Cap is about 10 times stronger and more durable than he is in the main stream Marvel U. And even in the Ultimate Universe it's complete BS that Cap didn't explode when Hulk hit him. He's not bulletproof, he has no armor, and his bones are not unbreakable. That's what we call Mark Millar's Man-Crush on Captain America, not a realistic feat by any means..
But yet it DID happen, thats what i was arguing

Originally posted by riceroost
Numerous? NUMEROUS??? Ultimate Cap took like 1 punch from Hulk and was then helpless until Thor showed up..
Hmmm, i just counted 5 blows that the hulk landed 😕

Originally posted by riceroost
And that one punch had to be one of Hulk's weakest punches to not splatter Cap's gray matter..
how do you know this? speculation?

Originally posted by riceroost
An injured Hulk that had just taken 3 direct shots from Thor's hammer was able to punch Thor (who actually has invulnerability) across a city block.
so now Hulk didnt punch Cap?

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
no matter how different the universe are there is still something called logic
your right, but it DID happen on pannel no matter how much you "logically" dont want to believe it did

Originally posted by thedude1948
Was it ever shown that The Thing doesn't get hurt by pressure points?

how can a rock have pressure points? a bus hits him hulk hits him namor hits him and nothing, he is solid rock how can a rock have pressure points? and you know what lets say he does have it .. i am asking for the third time how can a human arm or any part of the human body create pressure on a rock? captain america is no gamora she has super human strength captain america is just peek human thats all, the fact is that captain america doesn't have what it takes to hurt ben not even with his shield

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
how can a rock have pressure points? a bus hits him hulk hits him namor hits him and nothing, he is solid rock how can a rock have pressure points? and you know what lets say he does have it .. i am asking for the third time how can a human arm or any part of the human body create pressure on a rock? captain america is no gamora she has super human strength captain america is just peek human thats all, the fact is that captain america doesn't have what it takes to hurt ben not even with his shield

Obviously, Ben has some sort of remaining human attributes, regarding his anatomy. He has indeed been shown to have pressure points.

Originally posted by galan7777777
your right, but it DID happen on pannel no matter how much you "logically" dont want to believe it did

you always say it did happen it did happen , so if a wolverine fanboy will grow into a writer and will make him killing the entire marvel universe then it counts?

Originally posted by hank_mccoy
how can a rock have pressure points? a bus hits him hulk hits him namor hits him and nothing, he is solid rock how can a rock have pressure points? and you know what lets say he does have it .. i am asking for the third time how can a human arm or any part of the human body create pressure on a rock? captain america is no gamora she has super human strength captain america is just peek human thats all, the fact is that captain america doesn't have what it takes to hurt ben not even with his shield

Diamonds (Simillar to rock in composition) have what are simillar to pressure points. Any way youre point is mute, how can rock have pain receptors, and yet Thing has demonstrated pain on various ocassions.