Originally posted by hank_mccoythats not the same as Cap taking a few punches from the hulk my friend 😆......... again are you saying that the "Ultimates" is PIS? because by that logic the entire marvel continuity is PIS.
you always say it did happen it did happen , so if a wolverine fanboy will grow into a writer and will make him killing the entire marvel universe then it counts?
Originally posted by H. S. 6
Obviously, Ben has some sort of remaining human attributes, regarding his anatomy. He has indeed been shown to have pressure points.
maybe inside but from the outside he is solid rock thats it, thats why very powerful blasts or hits cant harm him, and again i will say that even if he got some pressure points theres no way a peek human will press them because a human cant create enough pressure to press a rock
Originally posted by hank_mccoy
maybe inside but from the outside he is solid rock thats it, thats why very powerful blasts or hits cant harm him, and again i will say that even if he got some pressure points theres no way a peek human will press them because a human cant create enough pressure to press a rock
I agree with you, in that Cap would not be able to exploit Thing's pressure points. I was simply pointing out that Thing does, indeed, have pressure points.
Originally posted by galan7777777
like i said read the Ultimates, Cap HAS taken such punches
Err...we are not debating Ultimate Captain America, are we? 🤨
And reasons why Gamora was able to do that to Thing, well, he is not only better fighter then Cap, but also LEAGUES stronger and faster then he is too...
Originally posted by Tshern
Even Karnak wasn't able to stop Hulk by hitting to the weakest spot in his body...
No but Black bolt was .... I.e. with a sufficient amount of force or a an object which will apply more pressure, E.G. the Shield and its almost physics disrupting qualities, will probably do the job.
Originally posted by galan7777777
thats not the same as Cap taking a few punches from the hulk my friend 😆......... again are you saying that the "Ultimates" is PIS? because by that logic the entire marvel continuity is PIS.
comics dont follow 100% the logics but theres still simple logic there , like theres a reason why no street leveler who doesn't have super human strength cant throw a car or theres a reason why when daredevil once missed bullsy and hit the wall instead his hand was hurt , or theres a reason why wolverines blows are harder because his body is covered with adamentium , so you see even in comics they use a simple logic, and theres no way that a peek human who has bones and flesh of a regular human will take a punch that can open the ground or smash a track , if you want to believe that what ever in the comics is right then its fine by me i wont tell you what to think or to believe but i just state logical things
Originally posted by hank_mccoyyeah your right, the "Ultimates" and all the rest of Marvel comics are PIS 😆
comics dont follow 100% the logics but theres still simple logic there , like theres a reason why no street leveler who doesn't have super human strength cant throw a car or theres a reason why when daredevil once missed bullsy and hit the wall instead his hand was hurt , or theres a reason why wolverines blows are harder because his body is covered with adamentium , so you see even in comics they use a simple logic, and theres no way that a peek human who has bones and flesh of a regular human will take a punch that can open the ground or smash a track , if you want to believe that what ever in the comics is right then its fine by me i wont tell you what to think or to believe but i just state logical things
Originally posted by R.O.T. Yahman
Caps knocked over some pretty hardcore characters with that shield, King Thor and Wolverine included. Real life Physics don't really apply to it. Mind you it is made from a Vibranium alloy, which may explain that a bit. I think Ultimate Cap, would anhilate Ultimate Thing.
yea. i believe u, trust me and i know real life physics dont apply to comics, its just not right. but the thought of Captain America taking out someone like the Thing just sounds a little odd to me. like 🤨
Originally posted by galan7777777
of course i do, even more so when its shown on pannel
So you're just going to accept all of the high showings for the character and neglect the low showings, denying all evidence that points to the opposite direction? That's bad debating. Comic books are chock full of inconsistencies making a war against feats a circular one. Cap has been also shown to be ko'ed by weaker characters "on panel", does that count or do you neglect that to help your argument?
Originally posted by galan7777777I don't care about Marvel, this isn't Marvel, this is a versus forum. If that's the case Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy. Here there is a suspension of belief amongst characters. You have no arugment of how Cap has not been amped beyond bulletproof levels, yet you maintain that Hulk cannot KO him, so you scapegoat it by saying its' not your argument in the first place? Why the hell debate then, this is a theoretical match between two characters with their attributes that hasn't happened yet, not some written comic that is made to sell.
It has happened my friend i dont make the rules, like i said before if you think its crap then write Marvel
Originally posted by galan7777777I said you thinking that Hulk can't ko Cap in a hit was a fair showing for hulk, and you showed me numerous instances within the same series where Hulk had done more impressive things on a regular basis, therefore hurt your own argument.
where did i say he was? show me? you said it wasnt a fair showing for hulk, and i explained to you that it was
Originally posted by galan7777777Who said it didn't happen? I just said it wouldn't happen in the comics forum. If you don't like the rules then don't debate here.
Again if you dont choose to believe what happened in the "Ultimates" thats fine with me..... the point is that it DID happen, no PIS/CIS..... it happened
Originally posted by galan7777777No its not, its far from it. Marvel didn't write these stories, several living/dead writers dead at different times of their career so no...
thats not the same as Cap taking a few punches from the hulk my friend laughing......... again are you saying that the "Ultimates" is PIS? because by that logic the entire marvel continuity is PIS.
This is 616 by the way.
Originally posted by braz
yea. i believe u, trust me and i know real life physics dont apply to comics, its just not right. but the thought of Captain America taking out someone like the Thing just sounds a little odd to me. like 🤨
I still belive that Thing would take the majority, but i think Cap does have a small chance, as does Wolverine and maybe the Taskmaster.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So you're just going to accept all of the high showings for the character and neglect the low showings, denying all evidence that points to the opposite direction? That's bad debating. Comic books are chock full of inconsistencies making a war against feats a circular one. Cap has been also shown to be ko'ed by weaker characters "on panel", does that count or do you neglect that to help your argument?I don't care about Marvel, this isn't Marvel, this is a versus forum. If that's the case Wolverine beat Lobo, and Spiderman beat Superboy. Here there is a suspension of belief amongst characters. You have no arugment of how Cap has not been amped beyond bulletproof levels, yet you maintain that Hulk cannot KO him, so you scapegoat it by saying its' not your argument in the first place? Why the hell debate then, this is a theoretical match between two characters with their attributes that hasn't happened yet, not some written comic that is made to sell.
I said you thinking that Hulk can't ko Cap in a hit was a fair showing for hulk, and you showed me numerous instances within the same series where Hulk had done more impressive things on a regular basis, therefore hurt your own argument.
Who said it didn't happen? I just said it wouldn't happen in the comics forum. If you don't like the rules then don't debate here.
No its not, its far from it. Marvel didn't write these stories, several living/dead writers dead at different times of their career so no...
This is 616 by the way.
You do have a tendency to write a lot but not actually say anything.
Originally posted by galan7777777But Ultimate Cap is different character then 616 Cap, with greater durability. Why mention him when he is not even in this fight? Captain America himself has durability feats, why not mention him?
just the fact that Cap in one version IS capable of taking such punches