Jack has healed instantaneously in a city from a completely shattered spine. Killing him wouldn't be easy, especially once he melds into the city.
There's lots of metal in the city. Also lots of non-metallic concrete. Lots. 😐
Jack ftw. Once he merges with it, the only way to destroy him is basically to destroy the entire city. In a large city, and written correctly, you really need a cosmic level who's capable of simply destroying a city (most of the heralds come to mind) for Jack to lose.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Jack has healed instantaneously in a city from a completely shattered spine. Killing him wouldn't be easy, especially once he melds into the city.There's lots of metal in the city. Also lots of non-metallic concrete. Lots. 😐
Jack ftw. Once he merges with it, the only way to destroy him is basically to destroy the entire city. In a large city, and written correctly, you really need a cosmic level who's capable of simply destroying a city (most of the heralds come to mind) for Jack to lose.
And Magneto is capable of that. Mags ftw.
Originally posted by batdude123
And Magneto is capable of that. Mags ftw.
I knew you'd be the next to post... 😛
I realize Mags has some amazing feats. But he couldn't manipulate even the majority of the city (nothing to magnetize in plastic, concrete, asphalt, etc.). His energy output isn't such that he could just will the entire city into non-existence. We're talking about trillions of tons of material all working together to kill Mags (possibly more, but I don't know what's beyond trillion).
Jack once wore Tokyo as body armor. That's right, he was a giant mech made out of the city of Tokyo. Imagine that with NY whaling the bejesus out of Mags, then tell me he still wins the majority.
P.S. Not trying to convince batdude here....I realize he's too fargone to help. This is for the people with no vested bias toward either character.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I knew you'd be the next to post... 😛
Goody. 🙂
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I realize Mags has some amazing feats. But he couldn't manipulate even the majority of the city (nothing to magnetize in plastic, concrete, asphalt, etc.). His energy output isn't such that he could just will the entire city into non-existence. We're talking about trillions of tons of material all working together to kill Mags (possibly more, but I don't know what's beyond trillion).
That's fantastic Digi. However, Magneto still has the energy output to beat Hawkesmoor.
Destroying every single machine/electrical device IN THE WORLD.
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpg
Can't affect plastic, huh? 🙂
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2610/magtakesonplasticandceramic7lu.jpg
Not to mention a few EMP blasts should be enough to destroy the city.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Jack once wore Tokyo as body armor. That's right, he was a giant mech made out of the city of Tokyo. Imagine that with NY whaling the bejesus out of Mags, then tell me he still wins the majority.
Yippee skippy. Magneto then feeds of the EM energies given off by Hawkesmoore. 😉 Magneto wins the majority. 🙂
Originally posted by DigiMark007
P.S. Not trying to convince batdude here....I realize he's too fargone to help. This is for the people with no vested bias toward either character.
That was cold, Digi. 🙁
Originally posted by batdude123
Goody. 🙂That's fantastic Digi. However, Magneto still has the energy output to beat Hawkesmoor.
Destroying every single machine/electrical device IN THE WORLD.
http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/3365/magcutsaswath8vm.jpgCan't affect plastic, huh? 🙂
http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2610/magtakesonplasticandceramic7lu.jpgNot to mention a few EMP blasts should be enough to destroy the city.
Yippee skippy. Magneto then feeds of the EM energies given off by Hawkesmoore. 😉 Magneto wins the majority. 🙂
That was cold, Digi. 🙁
Wasn't he amped for that 1st feat? And it was strictly magnetic stuff, and they certainly weren't fighting back when he shut them down. NYC on the other hand, will be pissed and fighting for its life.
And That 2nd one almost proves my point. Sure, he's tearing up some sh*t that might not be metal, but that's just one small building. We're talking about thousands of buildings here. It would simply overwhelm him.
And I didn't mean to be cold. You know it's all in good fun. 😉
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Wasn't he amped for that 1st feat? And it was strictly magnetic stuff, and they certainly weren't fighting back when he shut them down. NYC on the other hand, will be pissed and fighting for its life.And That 2nd one almost proves my point. Sure, he's tearing up some sh*t that might not be metal, but that's just one small building. We're talking about thousands of buildings here. It would simply overwhelm him.
And I didn't mean to be cold. You know it's all in good fun. 😉
1. No
2. He also took apart two missles like they were nothing.
I'm not even sure Hawkesmoor could get passed Magneto's shields, to be honest. 😬 I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be able to, considering Magneto has LAUGHED at extremely strong physical forces trying to penetrate the shields.
And a few (3 or 4) EMP blasts should be enough to take Manhattan down.
Yes, well this is my opinion. You're certainly entitled to yours. 🙂
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I think I just can't get used to Magneto as a cosmic.😉
P.S. ...this is still a close fight, and I stick to my opinion. 😎
1. Orly??? shock
Tell that to the Avengers:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto88.jpg
And Cable:
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xforce2537vp1.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xforce2538ku3.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xforce2539bz2.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xforce2540jn1.jpg
😎
Mag's can tear apart new york with ease.
Most buildings (or at least quite a few) have metal embedded within their structures to help them stay 'upright' (especially in NY where you Americans like everything big and tall) Magneto simply tugs on them and Half of the city goes crumbling.
Magneto also can increase thew ferromagnetic properties of an item, EVERYTHING has a FM charge. Mag's simply increases it and then he can control it.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Only certain materials are ferromagnetic. The bonds that hold molecules together are based on electromagnetic forces.
True , but then from that couldn't magneto control ..well everything ?
Or is 'bonds that hold molecules together ' only for the specific 'certain materials' that you mentioned ?
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Chemical bonds are based on electromagnetic force. Magneto hasn't shown sufficient control of things at a molecular level to lead me to believe he could control an entire, largely non-ferromagnetic city.
Regardless, the city would be laid to waste after Magneto was through.
