Originally posted by Endless Mike
Didn't the Living Tribunal lose to some mutant and had to be rescued by a Celestial?
Actually now I know what your talking about.
The biggest PIS in Cosmological history.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY, before any of you confuse yourselves with these Scans.
"My short answer to this issue is that it is illogical, poorly written nonsense that one should ignore, It contradicts far too much of what is known and accepted about the characters to be taken seriously. But since this defense is open to the retort that perhaps everything else is wrong and these issues are right, let us instead look at the claims and implications of what is said. Let us examine what one would have to accept if one took everything in these two issues on face value.
First of all, Protege claims not just to be the new Living Tribunal, but the new One Above All (GOTG 49, last page); that is, Protege is God.
If he were indeed now God, what are we to make of Celestial's restraining him by throwing an energy blanket over his head? Can a Celestial muzzle God? And how does the energy blanket restrain this new OAA? By allowing him "to see nothing of what transpires." Yes, that's right, the new supreme being of the multiverse is taken down by not being able to see the ends of his feet.
But wait, we don't have to commit to such nonsense, because we are told that the LT was clandestinely drawing on the Amulet of Aggamotto (not the Eye, not the Orb, but the Amulet) in order to restrain Protege. In conclusion, therefore: Protege becomes TOAA, but is restrained by a Celestial energy hood that cuts off his sight and an amulet enhanced Living Tribunal.
To preserve my sanity I ignore the whole mess. If pressed to give an explanation I would say this: there is a history of mortal beings taking on vast powers and erroneously believing they are omnipotent(Doom in Secret Wars 1, Beyonder in Secret Wars 3, Warlock and Thanos in Infinity Gauntlet).
Perhaps Protege believes he is omnipotent, but because he cannot even sense what is happening after having a hood thrown over his head, clearly his Cosmic Awareness is still paltry if not non-existent. Clearly he has not absorbed the powers of the LT, perhaps he has absorbed an iota of an iota. Therefore, in conclusion, we are not seeing a Celestial restraining someone who is more powerful than the LT, let alone TOAA"
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Re: Re: Living Tribunal w/Cosmic Cube vs. Lucifer Morningstar w/IG
Originally posted by Ext@ntThanos absorbed him with the Ig rtard he resides over it but is less powerful than it is like the lady of the lak e and excalibur
Your making allot of stupid threads today are you?The LT can take it without the Cosmic Cube. He is above the IG's power and second only to TOAA.
Originally posted by leonheartmmHey, how about you read the damn book!!
LT did lose. though not in the traditional sense. his power lies in JUDGING and passing judgement which can have any effect. he judged korvak to be dangerous to the stability of the multiverse. but could not pass judgement to STOP him and save a single universe. the very fact that he had to settle for the sealing of the universe gives us atleast one instance of WEAKNESS which SHOULD not be present in a multiversal guardian. im not saying KORVAK is more POWERFUL than he any more than im saying XORN is more powerful than the phoenix force. all im saying is that the inability of being able to save a universe and having to SETTLE for a "SOLUTION" as u call it is a weakness which takes away immensely from the infalliability and multiversal power of LT specially since he doesnt have manny appearances ad hence the negetive ratio increases aa lot as suppose to say the showings of surfer losing a fight.
First off, it was a what-if=non canon. There goes your arguement.
But if that doesn't happen, then here goes nothing( I say nothing because you probably won't listen):
You want to full story. Ok, LT fired off at Korvak. It would have erased him.....if! Korvak was protected by Death, so Korvak could destroy Eternity. Korvak did absolutely nothing at all!!! Death did it all, Death!!
That's also bullshit, since LT is far beyond Death, but it's a What-If so why argue? Anyway, either way you look at it, LT had the power to seal off that universe, and he did. Either way you twist it, LT still won, and all the lying you do here, and until you get banned won't change it.
So ya, Korvac was tough and all, but he still did nothing.
LT would have wiped up his realm with Korvac's face if he wasn't protected.
Originally posted by Mr MasterBeat me to it.....****!!!
This isn't true.To begin with What if's suck.
I will prove this conclusively..
Secondly, This was 1982, and at this time LT was ONLY allowed to use Super Novas, (his ultimate Judgement in 1982)
(Now adays LT has Created a Universe, cancelled the Power of the IG, and ahas been conclusively depicted and addressesed as the Most Powerful being in Marvel, second only to the TOAA)
Anyways, Korvac was not the mastermind of this issue, machinations far beyond even his scope were at work in helping him survive LT's "Super Nova"
This is the big moment of surprise and disappointment for all who thought Korvac was more powerful than LT.
Let's do it.
First ALL the positive showings of the issue, then I'll post the rediculousness of a What if comic.
First:
Korvac Absorbs ALL the power of these SIX cosmics, he had already absorbed Galactus's world ship, that gave him instant near-omnipotent power.
Korvac absorbs Galactus's world ship.
LT penetrates Korvacs barrier to blow up the sun in this universe.
LT vaporizes a quarter of that solar system and Korvac survives,
LT caught by surprise by this, decides to leave this universe and seal Korvac in it.
Korvac was so powerful that he could NOT escape the Universe LT trapped him in.
The Surprise:
It was Death that protected Korvac from LT, from annihilation, how?
Death simply didn't permit Korvac to die.
How?
It's Death, just like Thanos isn't fazed by mortality because of Death, so she did the same for Korvac.
"The Eons-Old Stalemate between Eternity and ME has ENDED.
By MY MACHINATIONS, the UNIVERSE shall be MINE""DEATH--Korvac's Unbidden ALLY....
"DEATH--Korvac's UNWANTED MASTER"Why?
Because Death wanted to kill Eternity and Death knew it could get Korvac to retrieve the Ultimate Nullifier to destroy Eternity, this was Death's plan all along.
Apparently even Death was unable to help Korvac withstand the UN though.
Death has power over the dead.
Oblivion is the one with power over the nothing (nullification)
