Ryu Vs. Iori

Originally posted by olympian
Not as much as K` thats for sure. B-o-r-i-n-g redesign of Kyo who is bland and doesnt add to the roaster.

What, you couldnt think of a better reason to hate a character?

Ill play along tho. The kind that beats Mr karate and Geese`s arse.

Or Ryu`s if you count the recent SVC comic.

Originally posted by olympian
I know its the first thing pll think off, but if it was made by the same creators (and they wer) it isent a rip off. Call it poking fun at instead. Mocking.

Thats what Dan is. A mocking of the AOF guys as much Capcom saw these two being a mock to the SF guys.

Now, on the best friends being a rival, no. Dragon Ball and a bunch of other series, including games had already done that. Its nothing original.

Originally posted by olympian
Not as much as K` thats for sure. B-o-r-i-n-g redesign of Kyo who is bland and doesnt add to the roaster.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I don't hate kyo that much, I just hate him in terms of plot. He's cool in NGBC.

Originally posted by Remulous
Yes, the wandering warrior has been done before but not in a video game, until Ryu came along. Rather or not one of the guys behind SF2 made Ryo (which I don't believe anyway) doesnt matter. He works for SNK now, time to make some new characters, not still old ones from thoes he doesn't even have the rights to that he made at his old job.

As far as i can see, if one man or team comes with a concept, they can use it and take it wherever they like. Even rival companies.

Originally posted by brainchild81
When did he beat Geese? Any scans of him beating Ryu? K' is actually kinda cool. Ryo sucks way more than K'. I've listed why I hate Ryo a long time ago. That's just something to add to the list. It's quite stupid for him to do that though. Might explain why the older versions stopped. Takuma probably smacked him in the back of the head "You know you disgrace us all by wearing that sh*t?!"

As for K`, hes bland and doesnt add anything because hes another Kyo. You already have one. Yes he looks cool, nothing more beyond that, hes only a poster boy as far as character goes, FOR ME.

As for Geese. He lost against both. FF is a continuation of the story started in AOF.

Originally posted by olympian
He/they obviously had the right, since the character was used.....

As far as i can see, if one man or team comes with a concept, they can use it and take it wherever they like. Even rival companies.

Ansewered and post linked in the other thread. As for that "reason" wich isent a reason at all, i guess Goku is a wuss now, because he wears a shirt under his Gi.

As for K`, hes bland and doesnt add anything because hes another Kyo. You already have one. Yes he looks cool, nothing more beyond that, hes only a poster boy as far as character goes, FOR ME.

As for Geese. He lost against both. FF is a continuation of the story started in AOF.

Storywise, Ryu. Ryu is now almost on par with Gouki and that's pre-oro. Of course, Shin Gouki is still stronger, but while Iori is good, he's probably not going to be able to beat Ryu at this point.

Originally posted by Sado22
not really. you missed the point actually.
Akuma is waiting for Ryu to "unleash" his potential...that being the dark hadou. basically EVIL RYU is in par with Akuma...not regular Ryu.

Incorrect, Ryu as of SF3 is equal to Akuma from Alpha 2... thats Pre Oro trained Ryu. and Ryu is as strong now as he would have been had he given into the dark hadou back in Alpha.

Originally posted by Remulous
If he had the rights he would've put Ryu in AOF and not made rip offs.

Incorrect, Ryu as of SF3 is equal to Akuma from Alpha 2... thats Pre Oro trained Ryu. and Ryu is as strong now as he would have been had he given into the dark hadou back in Alpha.

also for the record, it is NOT confirmed if Ryu is training with Oro. Canonwise after his defeat to Oro, Ryu went to US to meet up with Ken. After that he contemplated continuing on his path or not and he chose to continue. SF 3 thrid strike is like the epilogue to the SF 3 tournament and it tells us what they all are doing AFTER the tournament and what happened to them all. after SF3 tournament Oro figures Ryu would make a good disciple and he goes to find him. by SF3 third strike Ryu is NOT with him and so....no he didnt go under him Oro to train.

Love & Peace.
~Sado.

Ugh... I hate having to repeat myself every time a new person rears up and asks, but that comes with the territory. Grab a copy of SF Eternal, it's all there.

I never said Ryu is on par with Akuma currently... what I said was, Ryu as of right now is as strong now as Akuma was in Alpha 2. Of course Akuma would continue to get stronger during that amount of time, so Akuma is still leagues stronger.

As for Ryu training with Oro, well you may draw your own conclusions, I for one beleive that ryu's quest to become stronger will drive him to seek Oro's training, considering Ryu has experienced a loss to him.

First of all thank you for being respectful even though to you i'm a n00b. I appreciate it.

Ugh... I hate having to repeat myself every time a new person rears up and asks, but that comes with the territory. Grab a copy of SF Eternal, it's all there.

I never said Ryu is on par with Akuma currently... what I said was, Ryu as of right now is as strong now as Akuma was in Alpha 2. Of course Akuma would continue to get stronger during that amount of time, so Akuma is still leagues stronger.

As for Ryu training with Oro, well you may draw your own conclusions, I for one beleive that ryu's quest to become stronger will drive him to seek Oro's training, considering Ryu has experienced a loss to him.

Originally posted by Sado22

i have heard people say that SF3 Ryu is as strong as the Evil ryu he became when he defeated Sagat in SF1. are you drawing your analogy from that?

No, ryu is as strong as dark ryu because such was stated or implyed in his third strike prologue.

No, ryu is as strong as dark ryu because such was stated or implyed in his third strike prologue.

Hugo just got a good chin. I see Ryu winning maybe 6 or 7/10

I'll admit that the Shin Shoryuken flop stales my view of him, but make no mistake, I still firmly beleive that Ryu is at least on par with guys like terry and Kyo, maybe better than them despite their track record... Coming out alive from a fight with someone like akuma is no joke IMO. 😛

Ahem, but Akuma didn't go all out and told Ryu to challenge him after mastering Satsui no hado. And then he split the island in a single attack. Kyo, no. Terry, yes. Terry has faced many foes stronger than him and won against them. Kyo had an awesome team and the magatama plot device. For the record, I don't think Kyo or Ryu could beat Rugal for example, in a straight fight. Given that Rugal owns entire teams by himself, none of them could have beat him in Geese's old KOF tournaments, the solo ones.

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Ahem, but Akuma didn't go all out and told Ryu to challenge him after mastering Satsui no hado. And then he split the island in a single attack. Kyo, no. Terry, yes. Terry has faced many foes stronger than him and won against them. Kyo had an awesome team and the magatama plot device. For the record, I don't think Kyo or Ryu could beat Rugal for example, in a straight fight. Given that Rugal owns entire teams by himself, none of them could have beat him in Geese's old KOF tournaments, the solo ones.

Akuma pulled his punches, but he certainly didn't throw the fight...

Ryu did the same with guys like Sagat and Bison...

Thats conjecture and I happen to disagree with it, if Kyo lasted as long as he did against Goenitz in their first matchup (Pre 96), I'd say he would have pummeled Rugal, and I think Ryu would have done fine against him one on one, close match and certainly not one sided like your claiming.

Ryu got a cheapshot the first time with sagat, that's indisputable. And he never beat Bison.

😗 You're trying to tell me that Kyo could take Rugal solo? No. Absolutely no. There is no way he could beat Rugal solo. Rugal fought teams solo and was winning until team japan. 2nd, as Omega Rugal, it took almost the entire KOF95's roster to put him down, and that was only because of the orochi blood nuking him. Ryu would do better than Kyo, and it would be a good match, but Rugal would win ultimately. He's just that strong. I consider him the strongest KOF boss outside Orochi.

Originally posted by brainchild81
& still why not make a new character that wouldn't get written off as a Ryu clone or reject?

They came up with Mr. Karate and Lee Pai Long, who were both very interesting characters. Not to mention Kasumi Todo. I think AOF contributed a few good points.