Form VIII Sansacu

Started by zephiel77 pages
Originally posted by San'Doria
No nihilus drain is not a simple version, its a killing technique he used on an entire planet. His drain would kill revan

Which he needed to invade and weaken first. Point moot.


wrong again see this video, it owns what you just said.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAS_B_qTOW4

Not really. He had to stun the trio first. Prove that he can do it against Revan. You still haven't.


no, you did not prove anything at all

More like you are seeing what you want to see, and ignoring proof.

The evidence is clear. He has to weaken/stun his opponents first. Notice the squiggly lines surrounding the Exile? Also did you ever hear the transmission from Vandaar, stating that the Exile had (average Jedi abilities)?

Not going to happen with Revan, given his mastery of the force.

since when nihilus ever been to taris? you mean telos right?

Right, so he would invade Telos for no reason? Ilogical. Prove up. Show that he can use it instaneously without first stunning/weakening his opponent.

Did he send a fleet of ships to the miraluka world of katarr?no, he went there with the ravager, alone and drained them instantly

What? Prove that he went there alone, otherwise I call bullshit. While you are at it, prove that the source is canon. No wikipedia.

Your evidence is not concrete enough. He drains the exile when she breaks free. There are so many reasons why he could have stunned the party, one of them is to intimidate them, hell he was suppose to suspend them in the air in the uncut game.

Prove to me that Nihilus, with his insatiable hunger, would not use the force drain instaneously if he could. He had to attack Telos first. Traya, who used the same technique as Nihilus, had to throw the three Jedi masters backward before she used her instantkill.

point moot, it still showed the extent of nihilus powers

Not quite, since it was not canon. Hence the ability is also NON CANON.


, , wrong again, HE drained the whole world of katarr without weakening them stop making shit up.That canon comic backs up the cut content video that he doesnt need to prepare his drain,

Show me the evidence. Otherwise I call bs.


so did kreia prepare her drain on dantooine? Because it was insta kill did she prepare or weaken them? no, and she is well aware nihilus master of drain triumphs her

Except Traya had to use the force to hurl the three Jedi masters first! Hence she had to weaken them. Only after did she force drain them. Point moot.


, So? emperor palpatine also got cut off from the force by the 3 skywalkers and note that pal is far more powerful than revan can ever be. And nihilus gave kreia a simple push to weaken her. Ulic also got cut of from the force and he was just as powerful as exar kun in the book of DLOTS

WTF? What are you getting at? Ulic was cut off from the force because he was in grief of his brothers death. He could not defend agains the technique.

Palpatine got triple teamed by the force potentials of Luke, Leia, and Anakin.

I ask: What are you getting at?


, remember the loading screen? when you reach the ravager it said "the master was trapped on malachor V and he pulled the ravager from orbit" something like that, And either colonol tobin or visas mentioned the ship was hold together by the will of nihilus

I wasn't arguing against this fact. Holding a ship together is fine and all, but it hardly translates into an arena duel. Mind controlling a crew of non force users? Not something that translates into an arena battle either.

With evidence by Darth Bane, Darth Traya, quantifying Revan's power in both sides of the force, it is safe to say that he knew more about the force than Nihilus.

Again you fail to prove this that he needs to prepare his drain. He drained an entire planet without weakening them.

Show me the proof. If there is something, then I never read or heard about it. While you are at it, prove that it is canon. Again, no Wikipedia.


stop making this shit up

I am afraid that I haven't seen any proof on your part either about Nihilus pulling off the move instantaneously. He has to stun or weaken a Jedi before pulling off the attack.

I have my proof through logical inference. You are asserting something without actually proving up.

the thing is, you are, and you your self hasnt prove anything to me yet, you are a fanboy of revan, you cannot accept the fact nihilus is above him, Kreia feared nihilus

Wow, you are calling me a fanboy now? Good job trolling buddy. You are clearly a Nihilus a fanboy. You're points about Nihilus being able to instaneously suck the force from his opponents have been shut down.

Right, "my self" hasn't proven anything to you...

Revan defeated an empowered Malak at least twice. You know, a Malak empowered by an entire race and it's technology's worth of force energy? You still have not responded to this.

Bane is amazed by the amount of abilities and powers Revan possessed in the darkside.

To Bane it seemed the teachings contained within the single Holocron surpassed those of the Academy's entire archives. Revan had discovered many of the rituals of the ancient Sith, and as the holocron's avatar explained their nature and purpose, Bane could barely wrap his mind around their awesome potential. Some of the rituals were so terrible-so dangerous to attempt, even for a true Sith Master-that he doubted he would ever dare to use them.

And Malak states Revan was even better with light side. Put two and two together, and we find out that Revan was one of the best dark side force user and one of the best light side users in SW universe.


i forgot to say, how does luke, shimrra, the fallanasi and the exile defend agaisnt nihilus drian? Luke can remove himself from the force, a technique he learnt from the fallanasi, shimrra is a yuuzhan vong and they exist outside the force, while the exile is a wound in the force, not fully connected i think [/B]

You still assert that Nihilus can perform the attack instaneously. I have yet to observe adequate proof, on your part, to establish this.

For now, you have not proven your claim that Nihilus is >>>>>>>>Revan or greater than Revan at all! All your argument goes by is an undying love for Nihilus, and petty prejudice for Revan.

I am still waiting for real proof on your part. The video shows nothing, as he had to incapicate the Exile first.

Until you can offer proof to support your assertion, I am not going to bother to answer your post.

Sansacu sounds like a san-sack of crap.

Originally posted by zephiel7

Not really. He had to stun the trio first. Prove that he can do it against Revan. You still haven't.

Again prove that he needed to stun the trio, He did not stun the miraluka world of katarr, you have yet to prove that he needs to stun his victims before draining them.

Originally posted by zephiel7

More like you are seeing what you want to see, and ignoring proof.
i want to see evidence, not anecdotes coming out from your mouth. it is you who ignore the evidence

Originally posted by zephiel7

The evidence is clear. He has to weaken/stun his opponents first. Notice the squiggly lines surrounding the Exile? Also did you ever hear the transmission from Vandaar, stating that the Exile had (average Jedi abilities)?

nope, it is not clear since he drained the whole planet of katarr without stunning them, read Unseen, unheard the comic, it will shut you up

Originally posted by zephiel7
Not going to happen with Revan, given his mastery of the force.
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yes it will, sad to say, revan doesnt know how to defend against a drain, He has never met the fallanasi thus not knowing how to remove himself from the force, And remember kreia saying "There are techniques in the force where there are no defences"? Even revan was well aware of that

Originally posted by zephiel7
Right, so he would invade Telos for no reason? Ilogical. Prove up. Show that he can use it instaneously without first stunning/weakening his opponent.
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Did you even know why nihilus invaded telos in the first place?Because kreia lied to him saying that the jedi were there.Now it is you who must prove to all of us that nihilus needs to stun his victims before draining them. As i said, he did not stun any1 on katarr before he drained them, he did it instantly strait away,

Originally posted by zephiel7
What? Prove that he went there alone, otherwise I call bullshit. While you are at it, prove that the source is canon. No wikipedia.
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Read unseen unheard, it showed the ravagar orbiting katarr by itself with nihilus on the deck, i have read the comic, you have not. point moot

Originally posted by zephiel7
Prove to me that Nihilus, with his insatiable hunger, would not use the force drain instaneously if he could. He had to attack Telos first. Traya, who used the same technique as Nihilus, had to throw the three Jedi masters backward before she used her instantkill.
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No, she was making sure they dont touch the exile and those force pushes did not weaken the jedi masters, when they charged at her with a full attack, she drained them, and she is well aware that nihilus force drain mastery are highly above hers,

Originally posted by zephiel7
Not quite, since it was not canon. Hence the ability is also NON CANON.
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sad to say that he did the same thing in the comic, He did not stun any of the jedi on the planet of katarr. O? and non canon? so nihilus drain all of a sudden becomes non canon? bull fu*king shit

Originally posted by zephiel7

Show me the evidence. Otherwise I call bs.
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it is you who is babbling bull shit

Originally posted by zephiel7

Except Traya had to use the force to hurl the three Jedi masters first! Hence she had to weaken them. Only after did she force drain them. Point moot. [/B]

ROFLMAO when they charged at her they were at full strength! and She struck them with force drain! And not to forget nihilus mastery of drain trumps over kreias! watch the cut scene properly, she didnt hurl or weaken any one of them, now look whos babbling bull sh!t

Originally posted by zephiel7

WTF? What are you getting at? Ulic was cut off from the force because he was in grief of his brothers death. He could not defend agains the technique.

Palpatine got triple teamed by the force potentials of Luke, Leia, and Anakin.

I ask: What are you getting at?
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where am i getting? Kreia was nearly as strong as revan and yet she got wtf pwned by nihilus with a force push, Her quote "There are techniques in the force where there are no defence"hint? nihilus force drain and his cut off the force ability

Originally posted by zephiel7

With evidence by Darth Bane, Darth Traya, quantifying Revan's power in both sides of the force, it is safe to say that he knew more about the force than Nihilus.
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. Safe to say he did not know how to remove himself from the force to defend against nihilus force drain because he has never met the fallanasi and if the jedi council did, they would have used that ability to counter nihilus when he drained katarr

Originally posted by zephiel7
Show me the proof. If there is something, then I never read or heard about it. While you are at it, prove that it is canon. Again, no Wikipedia.
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. The proof is the comic i have been mentioning time and again. Unseen Unheard

Originally posted by zephiel7

I am afraid that I haven't seen any proof on your part either about Nihilus pulling off the move instantaneously. He has to stun or weaken a Jedi before pulling off the attack.
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. devastating to say that you havnt proven anything about him needing to stun his opponents before draining them, The comic i mentioned hands you your ass.

Originally posted by zephiel7

I have my proof through logical inference. You are asserting something without actually proving up.
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. nope, you backed it up with BS, you yourself asserting something that nobody can even prove

Originally posted by zephiel7

Wow, you are calling me a fanboy now? Good job trolling buddy. You are clearly a Nihilus a fanboy. You're points about Nihilus being able to instaneously suck the force from his opponents have been shut down.
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. very sad to say i have already proven that nihilus force drain are instant. Read the comic UNSEEN UNHEARD, it even backs up the cut content video, yes you are a fanboy of revan

Originally posted by zephiel7

Bane is amazed by the amount of abilities and powers Revan possessed in the darkside.
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. bane may be amazed but kreia feared nihilus, she wanted the exile to stop him because the exile has a natural defence, being a wound in the force

Originally posted by zephiel7

To Bane it seemed the teachings contained within the single Holocron surpassed those of the Academy's entire archives. Revan had discovered many of the rituals of the ancient Sith, and as the holocron's avatar explained their nature and purpose, Bane could barely wrap his mind around their awesome potential. Some of the rituals were so terrible-so dangerous to attempt, even for a true Sith Master-that he doubted he would ever dare to use them.
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. still revan has never heard of removing himself from the force to counter a mega force drain, like i said he has never met the fallanasi to learn to loop out of the force. the dark side itself cant counter a drain

Originally posted by zephiel7

And Malak states Revan was even better with light side. Put two and two together, and we find out that Revan was one of the best dark side force user and one of the best light side users in SW universe.
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. True but again it cant prove how revan is going to counter a force drain

Originally posted by zephiel7

You still assert that Nihilus can perform the attack instaneously. I have yet to observe adequate proof, on your part, to establish this.
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you have yet to provr that nihilus needs to stun his opponents before draining them, kreia didnt and her mastery of drain is below nihilus

Originally posted by zephiel7
For now, you have not proven your claim that Nihilus is >>>>>>>>Revan or greater than Revan at all! All your argument goes by is an undying love for Nihilus, and petty prejudice for Revan.
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.i already did! it is you who cant prove that. all your arguements goes is an undying love for revan and a petty prejudice fore nihilus

Originally posted by zephiel7
I am still waiting for real proof on your part. The video shows nothing, as he had to incapicate the Exile first.
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. First you say nihilus dueled with the exile before draining her, That video was to show you that it was he drained her before they dueled, idiot dont change your words

Originally posted by zephiel7
Until you can offer proof to support your assertion, I am not going to bother to answer your post. [/B]
i can say the same to you.

now you have got your ass handed, would you back down now or shall we go on?

i think some people need lives *cough* zephiel7 and kadesh *cough*

Originally posted by Kadesh

I'm a Nihilus fanboy. ZOMG He CaN do teh drain!!111!!!

Prove that Nihilus can do the force drain instantaneously.

In KOTOR 2, Nihilus had to stun the Exile first, before he could perform his drain. Hence the squiggly lines around him. The Exile could not even move. Prove that Nihilus can get Revan into such a vulnerable state, especially when Revan is fighting back.

Nihilus had to weaken Telos before he could drain the entire planet. Prove that he instananesouly destroyed Kataar, so that I know you aren't just pulling facts out of your ass (which you tend to do).

Traya had to wtfpwn the three Jedi masters with force wave before she could begin her drain attack.

Nihilus draining Sion was non canon. Hence him draining instantaneously is NON CANON. It wasn't mentioned in the actual released version of the game. God man, you are the epitome of stupidity.

Evidence states that Nihilus needs to weaken his victim. Logical inference. It is quite clear that logic is a concept that is foreign to you.

Now all I ask is for you to prove up. Get it through your thick skull. You still haven't given a shred of proof dude, hence your entire argument is BULLSHIT.

God, I am wondering why I waste time responding to your inane posts.

Since I haven't seen any proof yet, I call your argument complete bullshit. Thanks for trying.

As for Unseen, Unheard, it NEVER shows Nihlius using his power we only see Visas sitting and sometime later as she continues to narrate the planet is WTFpwned. We NEVER see an outside view of Nilhlius's ship only this inside with Visas on board. Stop Lying Kadesh, As for Nilihus cutting Traya off from the force with a push...no, we see her seconds later on the ground using the force to attempt to grab her lightsaber but fails as Sion is looming over her. Had he cut her off she wouldn't have been able to move the lightsbaer with the force at all.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Prove that Nihilus can do the force drain instantaneously.

[b]In KOTOR 2, Nihilus had to stun the Exile first, before he could perform his drain. Hence the squiggly lines around him. The Exile could not even move. Prove that Nihilus can get Revan into such a vulnerable state, especially when Revan is fighting back.

Nihilus had to weaken Telos before he could drain the entire planet. Prove that he instananesouly destroyed Kataar, so that I know you aren't just pulling facts out of your ass (which you tend to do).

Traya had to wtfpwn the three Jedi masters with force wave before she could begin her drain attack.

Nihilus draining Sion was non canon. Hence him draining instantaneously is NON CANON. It wasn't mentioned in the actual released version of the game. God man, you are the epitome of stupidity.

Evidence states that Nihilus needs to weaken his victim. Logical inference. It is quite clear that logic is a concept that is foreign to you.

Now all I ask is for you to prove up. Get it through your thick skull. You still haven't given a shred of proof dude, hence your entire argument is BULLSHIT.

God, I am wondering why I waste time responding to your inane posts.

Since I haven't seen any proof yet, I call your argument complete bullshit. Thanks for trying. [/B]

all i have to say is visas in kotor 2 said "when my master spoke. all life on katarr died" she never said him stunning any1

PROVE TO ME NIHILUS DRAIN TAKES TIME!! WHY ARE YOU SO STUPID, NO PROOF = IM NOT CONVINCED

AND yes, unseen unheard did show the planet getting drained, remember the black cloud? people were running mad

Originally posted by zephiel7
Prove that Nihilus can do the force drain instantaneously.
kreia pulled it off instantly

Originally posted by zephiel7
In KOTOR 2, Nihilus had to stun the Exile first, before he could perform his drain. Hence the squiggly lines around him. The Exile could not even move. Prove that Nihilus can get Revan into such a vulnerable state, especially when Revan is fighting back.
so does that mean that dooku was preparing his lightning when he was hurling generators at yoda? again prove to me that nihilus prepared his attack
Originally posted by zephiel7
Nihilus had to weaken Telos before he could drain the entire planet. Prove that he instananesouly destroyed Kataar, so that I know you aren't just pulling facts out of your ass (which you tend to do).
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you are such a noob and a ignorant fool as well, i told you time and again, he did not touch telos and you didnt even know why he went there

Originally posted by zephiel7
Traya had to wtfpwn the three Jedi masters with force wave before she could begin her drain attack.
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nope, she pushed them to get them away from the exile, and a force push cant weaken a jedi, remember yoda pushing sidious? did it wtf weaken him? no, nice try making shit up

Originally posted by zephiel7

Nihilus draining Sion was non canon. Hence him draining instantaneously is NON CANON. It wasn't mentioned in the actual released version of the game. God man, you are the epitome of stupidity.
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Visas own words backs up nihilus of not stunning any1 before draining, she even said "All life on katarr died in an instant".
God it feels like im talking to a 12 year old

Originally posted by zephiel7

Evidence states that Nihilus needs to weaken his victim. Logical inference. It is quite clear that logic is a concept that is foreign to you.
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i would love to see the real actual evidence which you either 1) cannot produce because you make shit up
2) because it is pure bull shit

Originally posted by zephiel7

Now all I ask is for you to prove up. Get it through your thick skull. You still haven't given a shred of proof dude, hence your entire argument is BULLSHIT.
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i already did time and again pwning your arguements. you cannot even prove to me nihilus needs to prepare his drain, kreia didnt, malak didnt, exar kun didnt, palpatine didnt, so why nihilus? because he is against revan? see! you are a fanboy

Originally posted by zephiel7
God, I am wondering why I waste time responding to your inane posts.
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because you are an idiot who is denying the evidence i gave you while all you gave are ANECDOTES

Originally posted by zephiel7
Since I haven't seen any proof yet, I call your argument complete bullshit. Thanks for trying. [/B]
The fact is i have already shown you proof, etc the comic, kreias drain, visas own words and there is something called denial which you are showing at the moment.

i handed you your ass and you come back for more.
im sure the dark side sourcebook even states drain is instant, jaden korr did it instantly, malak did, palpatine did, exar kun did. Drain is drain, the better mastery you have of it the stronger it becomes and nihilus is a master of drain above all others. You are so stupid to assume the higher mastery you have of it the longer it takes to execute it,

Honest fact is you are the most idiotic debator yet.

Heres 1 thing logical and you better damm read it, If nihilus needs to feed on the force then why the hell would he weaken a victim? why? he needs as much force as he can get, weakening them will shorten their lives and all he gets is a little bit.
Like a jar of water, you are thirsty, are you going to tell me you are going to waste half of it? and yet still get thirsty?

Originally posted by AcStylesVer01
As for Unseen, Unheard, it NEVER shows Nihlius using his power we only see Visas sitting and sometime later as she continues to narrate the planet is WTFpwned. We NEVER see an outside view of Nilhlius's ship only this inside with Visas on board. Stop Lying Kadesh, As for Nilihus cutting Traya off from the force with a push...no, we see her seconds later on the ground using the force to attempt to grab her lightsaber but fails as Sion is looming over her. Had he cut her off she wouldn't have been able to move the lightsbaer with the force at all.
they did show the black cloud, They didnt show any1 getting weakened.

As for the cut of force thing i might be wrong but she said "I was stripped of my power" or either that the force push weakened her tremendously that she cant even reach for her lightsaber
. And yes we did see the bottom of the ravager, ye know like the way the star destroyer looms over the screen? there were no other ships there
-zephiel7

and no he didnt touch telos, he had to go with a fleet because his ship alone will get ripped apart by the republic fleet.

Like i said revan has NO defence against nihilus force drain, no way to counter it either.

I'll have to read Tales vol 6 again, If I can find it...As for Kreia, I think it wasn't the Force Push but the fear of a big undead freak who she had personally tortured for years looming over her about to give her the ass beating of her life.

Kadesh whats with the Revan sig and avatar? I thought you hated him?

Originally posted by Kadesh
kreia pulled it off instantly

SHE DAMAGED THEM FIRST. Read, then speak. Zephiel has stated that THREE TIMES and you've ignored it.

so does that mean that dooku was preparing his lightning when he was hurling generators at yoda? again prove to me that nihilus prepared his attack

No, because force lightning doesn't take preparation. The two powers have nothing to do with each other.

you are such a noob and a ignorant fool as well, i told you time and again, he did not touch telos and you didnt even know why he went there

Nice. Resort to insults. He tried ot touch Telos, but failed. Play the game.

nope, she pushed them to get them away from the exile, and a force push cant weaken a jedi, remember yoda pushing sidious? did it wtf weaken him? no, nice try making shit up

Ya, if I push you down its going to WEAKEN YOU. It lets your guard down, breaks your concentration, and can give physical injury.

Visas own words backs up nihilus of not stunning any1 before draining, she even said "All life on katarr died in an instant".
God it feels like im talking to a 12 year old

Are you serious? That quote proves nothing. Does it say Nihilius unleashed his power right away? No? Stop now.

i would love to see the real actual evidence which you either 1) cannot produce because you make shit up
2) because it is pure bull shit

Stop. Please.

i already did time and again pwning your arguements. you cannot even prove to me nihilus needs to prepare his drain, kreia didnt, malak didnt, exar kun didnt, palpatine didnt, so why nihilus? because he is against revan? see! you are a fanboy

Did Malak drain like Nihilius? No. Did Exar drain like Nihilius? No. Did Sidious drain like Nihilius? No. Nihilius, from [/QUOTE] logical inference, we can see Nihilius had to WEAKEN his opponents to use his powers.

because you are an idiot who is denying the evidence i gave you while all you gave are ANECDOTES

The fact is i have already shown you proof, etc the comic, kreias drain, visas own words and there is something called denial which you are showing at the moment.

You haven't showed any evidence. Where's the comic? Nowhere? I've already destroyed the rest. Stop. Please.

i handed you your ass and you come back for more.
im sure the dark side sourcebook even states drain is instant, jaden korr did it instantly, malak did, palpatine did, exar kun did. Drain is drain, the better mastery you have of it the stronger it becomes and nihilus is a master of drain above all others. You are so stupid to assume the higher mastery you have of it the longer it takes to execute it,

No. Stop. Now. You. Are. An. Idiot.

Honest fact is you are the most idiotic debator yet.

Heres 1 thing logical and you better damm read it, If nihilus needs to feed on the force then why the hell would he weaken a victim? why? he needs as much force as he can get, weakening them will shorten their lives and all he gets is a little bit.
Like a jar of water, you are thirsty, are you going to tell me you are going to waste half of it? and yet still get thirsty?

Stop. Now. Please.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
SHE DAMAGED THEM FIRST. Read, then speak. Zephiel has stated that THREE TIMES and you've ignored it.
nice lying, she DID NOT weaken the jedi masters at all, What a force push weakens them?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lFOfJd8uE
see this video? SHE DID NOT WEAKEN THEM

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
No, because force lightning doesn't take preparation. The two powers have nothing to do with each other.
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O but malaks force drain was instant, The force activates instantly.

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Nice. Resort to insults. He tried ot touch Telos, but failed. Play the game.
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O yea like you even knew why he went to telos,Prove thart he did, His ship alone will get destroyed by the republic fleet

Originally posted by RocasAtoll

Ya, if I push you down its going to WEAKEN YOU. It lets your guard down, breaks your concentration, and can give physical injury.
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The jedi masters had a while to recover thus a push does NOT weaken you, did Sidious get weak? NO

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Are you serious? That quote proves nothing. Does it say Nihilius unleashed his power right away? No? Stop now.
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Yes it did, notice the word instant? and the comic unseen unheard? THE PLANET WAS NOT WEAKENED

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
Did Malak drain like Nihilius? No. Did Exar drain like Nihilius? No. Did Sidious drain like Nihilius? No. Nihilius, from logical inference,we can see Nihilius had to WEAKEN his opponents to use his powers.[/B]
Yea right. you are another liar as well,Nihilus stunned the exile BUT DID NOT WEAKEN HER and they had a conversation before nihilus tried to feed on her. Now i have destroyed all of your arguements, both you and zephiels
. Drain is Drain, the mastery you have of it = to how much better and faster it is,

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
You haven't showed any evidence. Where's the comic? Nowhere? I've already destroyed the rest. Stop. Please..[/B]
You havnt destroyed anything at all, Just being a parrot repeating after zephiel.Evidence? this video proves that the exile did not get weakened and had a conversation before getting drained,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAS_B_qTOW4 Did he get weakened? *checks to see if exile got weakened* NO HE DID NOT

Originally posted by RocasAtoll
No. Stop. Now. You. Are. An. Idiot.
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No you are

nice trying to flood me with anecdotes huh

Kadesh, I am not going to waste my time responding to all of your worthless dribble. Really, you haven't backed up anything.

Himo and I already WTfpwned your arguments.

All the evidence points towards Nihilus needing to stun his opponents. Same with Traya, she had to assault them with a force attack to lower their guard.

You've backed up your arguments with SHIT.

Why did he invade Telos if his drain is instananeous? Why did he stun the Exile? He could have drained everything, including people on board the Republic defense ships if it was instantaneous. BS Kadesh. Holy crap. Prove that Nihilus would surive long enough to be able to muster up a drain. If Revan starts unleashing all his force attacks, Nihilus won't get the chance. He won't get the oppurtunity to stun Revan even.

So I am going to ask you one more time. WHERE. IS. YOUR. PROOF? Do you understand now? Learn how to back up your arguments. The only thing you have proved, is that you are thick headed dolt.

Prove up or shut up.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Kadesh, I am not going to waste my time responding to all of your worthless dribble. Really, you haven't backed up anything.
i did.
watch the both CANON videos i posted, no WEAKENENIG OF EXILE OR THE JEDI MASTERS

Originally posted by zephiel7
Himo and I already WTfpwned your arguments.
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wrong, it was the other way around, neither did you break my arguements, quit acting like a debator
Originally posted by zephiel7
All the evidence points towards Nihilus needing to stun his opponents. Same with Traya, she had to knock them over and lower their guard.
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no, she knocked the jedi masters because she wanted them to leave the exile alone GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD. First you say nihilus needs to weaken his opponents, now you say he needs to stun them, nice pack of lies you got zephiel, you are a babbling idiot.
Kreia did not weaken them nor stunned them
Originally posted by zephiel7
You've backed up your arguments with SHIT.
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No you have. and you have backed up your arguements with hatred of nihilus. See my signature? i dont have revan. i hate fanboys OF revan. people like you

Originally posted by zephiel7
So I am going to ask you one more time. WHERE. IS. YOUR. PROOF? Do you understand now? Learn how to back up your arguments. The only thing you have proved, is that you are thick headed dolt.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAS_B_qTOW4 and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lFOfJd8uE, BOTH OF THEM WHOM NONE GOT WEAKENED
Originally posted by zephiel7
Prove up or shut up. [/B]
Already have so now you shut up.

Go ahead, run away and cry like a boy. you have not prove that nihilus needs to weaken his victims, HELL NONE OF THE JEDI IN KATARR GOT STUNNED OR WEAKENED, GET THAT IN YOU HEAD NUMBSKULL

Greater aptitude allowed exceptional drainage speed and the ability to drain multiple people at once see the word SPEED? the greater you are, the faster it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAS_B_qTOW4 and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8lFOfJd8uE, BOTH OF THEM WHOM NONE GOT WEAKENED

"Them whom none got weakened?" Me speak english? Wow learn to type first, then maybe you can debate properly.

In the first example, the Exile had to be weakened and stunned by the force. Then Nihilus tried his drain. Argue with the evidence in the video not me, fanboy.

Second video, we have three masters who are of drastically different levels of skill from Traya, who weren't even fighting back. They were holding their lightsabers before her. Yes according to your shitty logic, just because the skill works on three vulnerable and weak masters, it can work on a force user that is leagues above these three, and prepared for an arena confrontation. Keep pwning yourself, moron. The rest of us can get a laugh.


Go ahead, run away and cry like a boy. you have not prove that nihilus needs to weaken his victims, HELL NONE OF THE JEDI IN KATARR GOT STUNNED OR WEAKENED, GET THAT IN YOU HEAD NUMBSKULL

You haven't gotten it through your thick skull yet have you? SHOW ME THE PROOF? Where does it state that. How do I know you aren't inventing stuff(like you usually do)? Wholy crap, no wonder you are universaly regarded on this forum as THE WORST DEBATER, you aren't even reading my posts properly.

the greater you are, the faster it is

Inventing more bullshit up? Care to back this up. Show me the source.

You haven't proven jack. Revan could use his force skills to push Nihilus away. Launch a force storm, or any manner of other techniques in order to subdue Nihilus. In the fight against the Exile, he had to stun his opponent first. He is not getting that chance against Revan.

Originally posted by zephiel7
"Them whom none got weakened?" Me speak english? Wow learn to type first, then maybe you can debate properly.

In the first example, the Exile had to be weakened and stunned by the force. Then Nihilus tried his drain. Argue with the evidence in the video not me, fanboy.

Force stun does not weaken an opponent, just stops you in your tracks, nice lying zephiel. If you got weakened your life bar would have dropped,

Originally posted by zephiel7
Second video, we have three masters who are of drastically different levels of skill from Traya, who weren't even fighting back. They were holding their lightsabers before her. Yes according to your shitty logic, just because the skill works on three vulnerable and weak masters, it can work on a force user that is leagues above these three.
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they were not weak, Kavar was a lightsaber master, 2nd to either malak or revan. Again they did not get weaken

Originally posted by zephiel7

You haven't gotten it through your thick skull yet have you? SHOW ME THE PROOF? Where does it state that. How do I know you aren't inventing stuff(like you usually do)? Wholy crap, no wonder you are universaly regarded on this forum as THE WORST DEBATER ON THE FORUM, you aren't even reading my posts properly.
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I HAVE SHOWN YOU THE PROOF, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DENAIL WHICH YOU ARE SHOWING.

[U]the greater you are, the faster it is [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by zephiel7

Inventing more bullshit up? Care to back this up.
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The quote i just posted above prove that,now shut up

Originally posted by zephiel7
You haven't proven jack. Revan could use his force skills to push Nihilus away. Launch a force storm, or any manner of other techniques in order to subdue Nihilus. In the fight against the Exile, he had to stun his opponent first. He is not getting that chance against Nihilus. [/B]
Yes i have, you refuse to accept it! DID you know why nihilus stun the exile first? to intimidate her, they had a conversation for chr!ts sake after exile broke free from stun. SHE WAS NOT WEAKENED,

And no zephiel, you are the absolute worse debator on KMC, you are worse than spartenII and you are worse than kun-ni-habeo and EVEN WORSE that tdtd

lastly, It sucked the life out of a planet, you know what zephiel YOU CANT accept the facts can you? you have to go here and make up shit because you are a fanboy of revan, you admitted it yourselves, you just cannot accept the fact that nihilus drain is instant and will pwn revan. You are such a noob and a fanboy.
SEE THE COMIC UNSEEN UNHEARD he had weakened NO ONE, he had stunned NO ONE,

now imbecile, go get the comic for yourself. it SHUTS every word you have saidREAD MY POSTS PROPERLY ALL YOU HAVE GAVE IS BULL SHIT

im waiting for your proof, show me or shut up

Force stun does not weaken an opponent, just stops you in your tracks, nice lying zephiel. If you got weakened your life bar would have dropped

Wow. Except Nihilus had to ensnare the Exile first before he used his drain...And life bar? What bullshit is this, you are trying to bring in gameplay mechanics now to describe an attack? Wow, keep it up troll.

they were not weak, Kavar was a lightsaber master, 2nd to either malak or revan. Again they did not get weaken

Oh wow... Kavar is close to Revan now? Prove up.. Revan knew a HELL of a lot more in the force than Kavar, and he was a hell of a lot stronger with it. Best duelist? How does being good with a lightsaber automatically make you a good force attack user. Keep pwning yourself, fool . Sorry. Nice try.

I HAVE SHOWN YOU THE PROOF, THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED DENAIL .

Right... Kadesh, you are a Nihilus fanboy. You haven't really proven anything. And what is "denail" anyways?

Show me the proof. If he could immediately drain everything, then why wasn't Telos and all of the crew inside those ships immediately drained. You can't prove up, so you are pretty much being a troll to me and Himo. Figures, cant debate and poor attitude.

[U]the greater you are, the faster it is

Show me where it says this. Show me that the source is canon.


Yes i have, you refuse to accept it! DID you know why nihilus stun the exile first? to intimidate her, they had a conversation for chr!ts sake after exile broke free from stun. SHE WAS NOT WEAKENED,

Prove up troll... He had her immobolized. Hell the Exile couldn't even fight back.

As for unseen unheard. Prove that it was something that Nihilus did it instantaneously. Do you even know what instaneously means kid? It means he can do it in a split second, with no lag time. He could not do that with Telos, so I doubt that he can do it with Kataar. Offer proof. You still haven't. Show me the screen.

worse than spartenII and you are worse than kun-ni-habeo and EVEN WORSE that tdtd

Wow you really are a troll. You are insulting everyone else on this board now? Just because YOU are an idiot, does not mean you can call everyone else one. Accept it.

You still have not offered a shred of proof. Just your biased opinion that ZOMG teh Nihilus cAn do it inStant1y!!

I am seriously not wasting my time with you. If you cannot form an intelligent argument get out. You are asserting that Nihilus can instantaneously do his drain, and be uninterrupted while doing it.

Keep self pwning yourself if you want to. Everyone in the forum has agreed that you are incompetent. Sexy, Kas'im, Lightsnake, Himo....Keep it up, you can still give us a good laugh once in a while.

Originally posted by zephiel7
Wow. Except Nihilus had to ensnare the Exile first before he used his drain...And life bar? What bullshit is this, you are trying to bring in gameplay mechanics now to describe an attack? Wow, keep it up troll.
First you said weaken them, now you said they had to be stunned, again that does not prove nihilus needs to weaken his enemies before draining them

Originally posted by zephiel7
Oh wow... Kavar is close to Revan now? Prove up.. Revan knew a HELL of a lot more in the force than Kavar, and he was a hell of a lot stronger with it. Best duelist? How does being good with a lightsaber automatically make you a good force attack user. Keep pwning yourself, fool . Sorry. Nice try. [/B]
Do not put words into my mouth i said kavar was a great lightsaber master knowing all the forms, 1-7. Nice try trying to lie

Originally posted by zephiel7

Right... Kadesh, you are a Nihilus fanboy. You haven't really proven anything. And what is "denail" anyways?
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The denial you are showing is that nihilus does not need to weaken his opponents before draining them. The comic once again proves that, all of katarr got drained the moment the ravager arrived alone,

Originally posted by zephiel7

Show me the proof. If he could immediately drain everything, then why wasn't Telos and all of the crew inside those ships immediately drained. You can't prove up, so you are pretty much being a troll to me and Himo. Figures, cant debate and poor attitude.
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He was going after the "jedi" who was suppose to be there, kreia lied to him. The jedi has a stronger connection to the force and therefore he goes after FORCE-SENSITIVES. try again

Originally posted by zephiel7

Show me where it says this. Show me that the source is canon.

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Force speed for example, The higher level you are in it the faster you can move, Luke skywalker, emperor palpatine proved this

Originally posted by zephiel7

Prove up troll... He had her immobolized. Hell the Exile couldn't even fight back.
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Yes but she and the party broke free. Nihilus then had a conversation with the exile. If nihilus was going to weaken her Then visas would have said something, Again you change your words. First you say he needs to weaken his enemies, now you say he has to immobalise them, Very nice try to prove to me a negative. And that conversation lasted sometime, Nihilus knew the exile was connected to kreia

Originally posted by zephiel7

As for unseen unheard. Prove that it was something that Nihilus did it instantaneously. Do you even know what instaneously means kid? It means he can do it in a split second, with no lag time. He could not do that with Telos, so I doubt that he can do it with Kataar. Offer proof. You still haven't. Show me the screen. [/B]

He did not do it to telos because the "jedi" was not there,He knew the exile and his apprentice was on the ship, He waited for them, proof? visas said "HE is aware we are onboard the ship".And visas even said "when milord spoke, all life on katarr died in an instant"

Originally posted by zephiel7

Wow you really are a troll. You are insulting everyone else on this board now? Just because YOU are an idiot, does not mean you can call everyone else one. Accept it. [/B]

Its not an insult when its a fact, you are an idiot

Originally posted by zephiel7

You still have not offered a shred of proof. Just your biased opinion that ZOMG teh Nihilus cAn do it inStant1y!!
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Neither did you while i have gave mine, see my point of your "denial"?. your biased opinion is "0 N!hIlUs N33d$ 2 Weakkken H!$ OpOnEnTs"
Originally posted by zephiel7

I am seriously not wasting my time with you. If you cannot form an intelligent argument get out. You are asserting that Nihilus can instantaneously do his drain, and be uninterrupted while doing it.
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Then dont even bother to reply

Originally posted by zephiel7

Keep self pwning yourself if you want to. Everyone in the forum has agreed that you are incompetent. Sexy, Kas'im, Lightsnake, Himo....Keep it up, you can still give us a good laugh once in a while. [/B]

Sexy agreed i am, Kasim im not sure, Lightsnake doesnt care, and himo is just like you

And lastly the black cloud swirled all over kataar immediately once nihilus "spoke", Visas even mentioned "When my master spoke, all life on katarr died" and the comic mentoined that The jedi heard the voice of nihilus before getting drained, nope, no weakening or immobalisation
. Dont understand? step one, he arrives in orbit above katarr, step 2, the jedi were not aware of his presence, step 3, WOOSH he drained them and the black cloud wrecks everything on the planet.

Read my previous posts. and zephiel, if you dont want to waste your time, dont bother to reply, you yourself said it and yet you reply,Ill wait for you to break your own words of saying you will not bother to reply, Then we will see who is the idiot

Show me the proof. If he could immediately drain everything, then why wasn't Telos and all of the crew inside those ships immediately drained.

Prove this wrong with facts. Now.