Qui-Gon, Quinlan, Obi-Wan, Aayla vs Sidious

Started by jollyjim3115 pages

Originally posted by darthsith19
Medvock, you may be a huge Kit fanboy but you can't honestly believe that Kit was a living hurricane. You know how powerful hurricanes are, a hurricane would wipe out Asajj in a second, do you even know what hyperbole is? If Kit's a hurricane what the hell is Sidious? A god? Lol, that's riduculous and total hyperbole. However, convincing you that it's hyperbole may or may not be conceiveably possible, you probably won't want to believe that your precious Kit isn't storng enough to lay waste to cities. And when the f*ck did I ever mention his vertebrae, what, never, okay, that's what I thought, good to know I'm not just losing my memory. OMG, Kenobi did a 360 in ANH, he must be a hurricane, too... or maybe a tornado.
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And are you saying Kit moved his body so much that he used up energy? OMG, those thugs, they were like Battle Droids in terms of power, what did Kit do to his vbody that supposedly used up so much of his energy? You do know that a hurricane would be able to wipe out all of those thugs in like 1.4 seconds, don't you, and it wouldn't get tired. Not one bit.

Dood ur liek full ov crap. Hyperbole mor elike ur full of hyperbull lololozlzozlolzor. Kit= Hurrican so he pwns evre1 even sidius cuz the moovee didnt no that kit waz a huricane and me is knowns that kit wins bye humsefl.

By the way, AOTC Kenobi is as powerful as Master Windu and as wise as Master Yoda, and, he got more powerful from AOTC to ROTS so his team crushes Sidious, especially with Kit!

By the way, AOTC Kenobi is as powerful as Master Windu and as wise as Master Yoda, and, he got more powerful from AOTC to ROTS so his team crushes Sidious, especially with Kit!

Your reasoning is uncanny...

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It says he was a "LIVING, MARTIAL hurricane", meaning that he was what resembled, at the time, that of a hurricane that was [keyword] LIVING [/keyword] and [keyword] MARTIAL [/keyword]. Because his body was moving in so many ways, the author used these terms to DESCRIBE him. HE DID NOT MEAN TO ACTUALLY STATE HE WAS A HURRICANE (LOL)

Which is why it is hyperbole, unless you are suggesting that "living martial hurricane" and "hurricane" are not the same thing, in which case I would ask for you to tell me the differences and which is stronger, and why? It was onviously hyperbole, anyone here will tell you the same, we are not trying to make Kit seem weaker than he really is. it's just the truth. Yes, the author used those words to describe him, and his descriptions were clearly hyperbole - the aithor was exaggerating, if that makes it easier for you to understand.
Excuse me, Obi-Wan couldn't even friggin keep up with Kit. For him to be taking them down so fast, HE MUST HAVE USED UP SOME ENERGY. F-A-C-T.

Kenobi was close, so what, what's your point? And if Kit was so good as to take them out that quickly you really think it took that much energy? You think Kenobi was exhausted from righting Battle Droids on the Trade Federation Battleship in the beginning of TPM? Yes, he had to have used up SOME ENERGY, you have to use energu whatever you do, even to watch tv, but it can't have been much at all, it had to have been only a very slight amount.
AND STOP SAYING KIT'S A FRIGGIN HURRICANE!!! That is NOT what the author meant, he was merely using the term to DESCRIBE how he moved! Because Kit was moving and twisting his body in so many ways when defeating the thugs, the author referred to him as a "martial hurricane", because he resembled one. As stated before also, the author states he was a "living, martial hurricane". Not just a hurricane.

Your correctin saying it's not what the author meant, cause the author clearly meant it to be hyperbole, only you disagree. How is twisting his body in many ways like a hurricane at all? And how is living marital hurricane any different that hurricane, it's just referring Kit to a hurricane that's living and martial, nothing more, nothing less, and is clearly hyperbole. Period.

Seriously guys, this is way too much thinking for a simple quote.

The martial hurricane is simply a simile referring to Kit Fisto's speed and power. It's just like calling Superman
"faster than a speeding bullet". The martial hurricane is just an association with Kit. Of course, by saying Kit
Fisto was known as the martial hurricane, ergo he is better than every other Jedi besides Yoda, Mace, Anakin,
Obi-Wan, Cin, and Depa is a ridiculous assumption. By calling Kit Fisto that makes Luminara Unduli the "lady
falcon" and Quinlan Vos a "Level 5 Tornado". And it makes Yoda the Wise Photon.

Kit Fisto is good Medvock, but not THAT GOOD.

Except Superman is faster than a speeding bullet.

and you dont pull on his cape, either...

or spit in the wind.

Which is why it is hyperbole, unless you are suggesting that "living martial hurricane" and "hurricane" are not the same thing, in which case I would ask for you to tell me the differences and which is stronger, and why? It was onviously hyperbole, anyone here will tell you the same, we are not trying to make Kit seem weaker than he really is. it's just the truth. Yes, the author used those words to describe him, and his descriptions were clearly hyperbole - the aithor was exaggerating, if that makes it easier for you to understand.

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“LIVING, MARTIAL HURRICANE” WAS USED TO D-E-S-C-R-I-B-E KIT FISTO’S MOVEMENTS. Like Prodigal Knight said, IT WAS MERELY A SIMILE REFERRING TO KIT’S SPEED AND POWER. I’m terrible at explaining this kind of thing, (I phailed at Eglinsh) so go read Prodigal Knight’s post.

And yes, there is a difference to "living, martial hurricane" and simply "hurricane", being the simple fact that one is LIVING and MARTIAL. Hence, it makes sense to describe Kit as a "living, martial hurricane" because he was LIVING, MARTIAL and was moving like a HURRICANE would if it were LIVING and MARTIAL. Ye see?

Kenobi was close, so what, what's your point? And if Kit was so good as to take them out that quickly you really think it took that much energy? You think Kenobi was exhausted from righting Battle Droids on the Trade Federation Battleship in the beginning of TPM? Yes, he had to have used up SOME ENERGY, you have to use energu whatever you do, even to watch tv, but it can't have been much at all, it had to have been only a very slight amount.

I NEVER EVEN FRIGGING SAID HOW MUCH ENERGY KIT WOULD HAVE USED UP!!!! I only ever said that he must have used up SOME energy when taking out those thugs. And quite frankly, the fact that Kit had to “increase his effort” to defeat the X’ting so fast must have meant he would have used up SOME energy, no?

ALAS, FORGET ABOUT THE WHOLE FRIGGING ENERGY THING. That is not the reason why he lost anyway; it was because Asajj was STUDYING his fighting style.

Your correctin saying it's not what the author meant, cause the author clearly meant it to be hyperbole, only you disagree. How is twisting his body in many ways like a hurricane at all? And how is living marital hurricane any different that hurricane, it's just referring Kit to a hurricane that's living and martial, nothing more, nothing less, and is clearly hyperbole. Period.

It does not take a genius to be able to interpret what the Author meant when he stated that. And don’t bloody ask me how his twisting body makes him resemble a FRIGGING hurricane, ASK THE AUTHOR! I wasn't the one writing it, I wasn't the one who stated he had an "unlimited vertebrae", HE DID. SO STOP ASKING ME WHY HE SAID IT!

What is stated in the novel REMAINS FACT unless it is CONTRADICTED BY ANOTHER SOURCE. PROVIDE ME A SOURCE THAT STATES “Kit was not resembling a living, martial hurricane when fighting the X’ting”, and I will believe that it is hyperbole. Just because YOU fail to understand the quote does not give you ANY right to assume that it’s hyperbole.

Seriously guys, this is way too much thinking for a simple quote.

The martial hurricane is simply a simile referring to Kit Fisto's speed and power. It's just like calling Superman
"faster than a speeding bullet". The martial hurricane is just an association with Kit.

THANK YOU! FINALLY SOMEONE WITH SOME COMMON SENSE!

Of course, by saying Kit
Fisto was known as the martial hurricane, ergo he is better than every other Jedi besides Yoda, Mace, Anakin,
Obi-Wan, Cin, and Depa is a ridiculous assumption. By calling Kit Fisto that makes Luminara Unduli the "lady
falcon" and Quinlan Vos a "Level 5 Tornado". And it makes Yoda the Wise Photon.

Kit Fisto is good Medvock, but not THAT GOOD.

Okay, wtf. When have I EVER said that that quote made Kit better than ANY OTHER JEDI? WHEN HAVE I EVER SAID HE WAS BETTER THAN YODA, MACE AND ANAKIN BECAUSE HE WAS DESCRIBED AS A LIVING MARTIAL HURRICANE? ARE YOU EVEN STATING I STATED THAT, OR HAVE I GOT THIS ALL WRONG?

You know what you people fail to realize?

Just because I happen to like Kit Fisto, does not mean I think he “PWNS ALL” or is better than ANY OTHER JEDI JUST FOR THE FACT THAT HE IS MY FAVORITE. I know Yoda would PWN him. I know Mace would KILL him. I know there are many other Jedi who could defeat him as well (not THAT many, though). Whenever I have argued for Kit, I ALWAYS provide FACTUAL information. I have NEVER stated something ridiculous like “Kit wins coz he pwns all and coz he is ma fave jedi”. You people merely assume this is so. However, if you go through some of the Kit Fisto Vs threads, you will see that I haven’t ALWAYS stated he’d defeat his opponent. There HAVE been (rare) circumstances that I’ve said he’d lose. But I’ve never said something ridiculous like, he’d defeat Sidious or something. Prove me wrong, I dare you.

Okay, wtf. When have I EVER said that that quote made Kit better than ANY OTHER JEDI? WHEN HAVE I EVER SAID HE WAS BETTER THAN YODA, MACE AND ANAKIN BECAUSE HE WAS DESCRIBED AS A LIVING MARTIAL HURRICANE? ARE YOU EVEN STATING I STATED THAT, OR HAVE I GOT THIS ALL WRONG?

Are you brainless? When have I said "Medvock, stop saying Kit pwns all". All I said is Kit Fisto is good, but not that good. And it's true, I dare you to argue.

What I am trying to get is that I feel there is way too much thinking on Kit Fisto is a martial hurricane. They are just relating to his strength.

Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Are you brainless? When have I said "Medvock, stop saying Kit pwns all". All I said is Kit Fisto is good, but not that good. And it's true, I dare you to argue.

What I am trying to get is that I feel there is way too much thinking on Kit Fisto is a martial hurricane. They are just relating to his strength.

I'm sorry, but I thought you meant that I was the one who assumed Kit was better than every other jedi besides Yoda and Mace because of the martial hurricane quote, because you ended your little post with "kit's good medvock, but not that good".

Anyway, the second part of that post wasn't even referring to you, it was referring to EVERYONE.

And I agree with the too much thinking of the quote.

Kit Fisto really is that good, there seems to be a lot of Fisto/ Fisto Fanboys/ Medvock haters here, and I can objectively say that Kit really is that good.

From the corner of his eye he saw that Kit had made his way almost to Ventress, and what he saw as the Nautolan increased his efforts almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration. His companion was a living, martial hurricane, his body moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints.

'Living martial hurricane' isn't hyperbole, it is simply a metaphor, there's a difference.
Sure, that his speed and destructive ability 'almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration' could be a slight exaggerating, but credit still needs to be given nonetheless.
That 'his body [was] moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints' is not hyperbole, it is a factual statement.

We all know what the quote means. There is way too much over-analysing going on. We know who wins, so, unless you really thing this is important to the topic (It's not, seeing as how Kit was wasted by Sidious in maybe, three seconds), let's move on.

Kit Fisto is a powerful Jedi. No one cannot deny that. The quote “the martial hurricane” is a reference to his speed and strength. By saying that about Fisto, he’s now confirmed to be a deadly fighter in the CW Jedi Order. But nevertheless, Sidious slaughtered Fisto. So even though Fisto is a martial hurricane, Sidious must be like Dark Lightning or such.

Originally posted by King Adas
Kit Fisto really is that good, there seems to be a lot of Fisto/ Fisto Fanboys/ Medvock haters here, and I can objectively say that Kit really is that good.

[b]From the corner of his eye he saw that Kit had made his way almost to Ventress, and what he saw as the Nautolan increased his efforts almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration. His companion was a living, martial hurricane, his body moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints.

'Living martial hurricane' isn't hyperbole, it is simply a metaphor, there's a difference.
Sure, that his speed and destructive ability 'almost broke Obi-Wan's concentration' could be a slight exaggerating, but credit still needs to be given nonetheless.
That 'his body [was] moving in two and three directions at once, joints flexing, unlimited by human vertebral restraints' is not hyperbole, it is a factual statement. [/B]

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Kit Fisto is a powerful Jedi. No one cannot deny that. The quote “the martial hurricane” is a reference to his speed and strength. By saying that about Fisto, he’s now confirmed to be a deadly fighter in the CW Jedi Order. But nevertheless, Sidious slaughtered Fisto. So even though Fisto is a martial hurricane, Sidious must be like Dark Lightning or such.

I agree. 🙂

Kit's most likely the 6th strongest jedi by ROTS, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best Shi-Cho practitioner ever.

To the rear of the car, where Grievous's pair of MagnaGuards had made the mistake of pitting themselves against Kit Fisto, the Nautolan's blade was a cyclone of blazing blue light. Resistant to the energy outpourings of a lightsaber, the phrik alloy staffs were potent weapons, but like any weapon they needed to find their target, and Kit simply wasn't allowing that. In moves a Twi'lek dancer might envy, he spun around the guards, claiming a limb from both with each rotation: left legs, right arms, right legs… - LoE, Ch47.

Yes, Kit is good. Your arguments are convincing, but, save them for another thread. We all saw how easily Sidious took out Kit. For all his strengths, he is simply outclassed by leagues. As I've said, you need a powerhouse to take on Sidious, unless the odds are ridiculous against him, of course.

Check this out, Kit really kicks ass.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6HzBHDKa24

Using clone wars as a reference is kind of lame. It won't help Kit here.

It's canon.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Your last two points there are simply spectacularly unimportant. Changing name would have changed little, and why mention the Sith? It's not realy important at all.

You are letting your enthusiasm get the better of you.

"Secondly, it was never explained why none of the Jedi can sense that Palpaine is a Sith?"- Yes it was. "Hard to see, the Dark Side is." All you need.

And the Jedi were clearly VERY suspicious about the Clones, but had no choice in the matter.

Your comparison with the Clone Wars cartoon is also facile. They are entirely different mediums with entirely different approaches, and aside from anything else, Clone Wars is EU and so not even in continuity.

Try to think a little more carefully before unleashing such a barrage of criticism.

no, unfortunately it is not canon.