2007 Rapture?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
[B]Psalm 139:8
8 If I ascend into Heaven, You are there;
If I make my bed in hell, behold, You are there.

If you have to "ascend" into Heaven then that means that it is "northward" or "up" relative to your current position. [/B]

So Heaven spins, rotates and moves around to be directly above with whomever died and is "ascending"...

Or, could it be that when the Bible was written, people didn't know that the Earth wasn't flat and saying "you go up into heaven" made the most sense considering their limited understanding?

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Up relative to the earth means 90 degrees. Talk to doctors and nurses who have encountered people who have died on the operating table. Many of them can tell you that the person who died and then came back to life described events that took place in the room that only a person with a third person view could know.

Could it be that as they were dying, they hallucinated?

Please answer my question.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What if I'm on the south pole?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Please answer my question.

People don't go to Heaven in the South Pole, duh.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Heaven spins, rotates and moves around to be directly above with whomever died and is "ascending"...

Or, could it be that when the Bible was written, people didn't know that the Earth wasn't flat and saying "you go up into heaven" made the most sense considering their limited understanding?

Could it be that as they were dying, they hallucinated?

Ascend means to rise, go, or move in an "upward" fashion. The rotation of the earth is irrelevant.

Dead people do not hallucinate (I said that the people were dead, meaning that they had the out-of-body experience after they died, not while dying).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive

Ascend means to rise, go, or move in an "upward" fashion. The rotation of the earth is irrelevant.

Dead people do not hallucinate (I said that the people were dead, meaning that they had the out-of-body experience [B]after they died, not while dying). [/B]

People who die do not come back. NDE are people who came near to death, but they did not die.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
People who die do not come back. NDE are people who came near to death, but they did not die.

Are you a medical doctor Shakyamunison? Doctors were there to certify that those who have experienced NDEs were dead (clinically). But these same people came back to life. There are a number of instances of people being actually in the morgue before coming back to life to report either Hell or Heaven (look it up).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Are you a medical doctor Shakyamunison? Doctors were there to certify that those who have experienced NDEs were dead (clinically). But these same people came back to life. There are a number of instances of people being actually in the morgue before coming back to life to report either Hell or Heaven (look it up).

But they do not die. There is always some brain activity.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
But they do not die. There is always some brain activity.

So then you are a medical doctor?

http://www.bartleby.com/65/de/death.html

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So then you are a medical doctor?

http://www.bartleby.com/65/de/death.html

If they were factually dead, why is it called "Near Death Experiences"? "Near" being the key word.

Are you a medical doctor JIA?

Originally posted by Robtard
If they were factually dead, why is it called "Near Death Experiences"? "Near" being the key word.

It is called near death because they did not remain dead (they were resucitated or they were brought back to life by some other means).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is called near death because they did not [B]remain dead (they were resucitated or they were brought back to life by some other means). [/B]

You fail. No one who has died (brain dead) has ever revived.

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Are you a medical doctor Shakyamunison? Doctors were there to certify that those who have experienced NDEs were dead (clinically). But these same people came back to life. There are a number of instances of people being actually in the morgue before coming back to life to report either Hell or Heaven (look it up).

You know that being clinically dead just means that circulation has ceased and they've stopped breathing, yes?

Originally posted by AngryManatee
You know that being clinically dead just means that circulation has ceased and they've stopped breathing, yes?

You failed to answer the other part of my post about those who came back to life in the morgue (some who were dead for 2-3 days).

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You fail. No one who has died (brain dead) has ever revived.

Do your due diligence before making a comment like that one (you have a habit of saying things that you cannot substantiate).

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Do your due diligence before making a comment like that one (you have a habit of saying things that you cannot substantiate).

Go away, you are beginning to bore me.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Go away, you are beginning to bore me.

Okay.

scooter

Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
It is called near death because they did not [B]remain dead (they were resucitated or they were brought back to life by some other means). [/B]

Then in would be a "death experience", as near-death isn't death. Key word "near"... you do understand the meaning of "near", I am sure.

"He's not dead... he's mostly dead." - Miracle Max

Originally posted by Robtard
Then in would be a "death experience", as near-death isn't death. Key word "near"... you do understand the meaning of "near", I am sure.

"He's not dead... he's mostly dead." - Miracle Max

Near death simply means that the person did not stay dead. It does not imply that the person never experienced death for any protracted period.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You fail. No one who has died (brain dead) has ever revived.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4188/is_20050521/ai_n14636549