Originally posted by Ushgarak
A response which is spectacularly irrelevant.I don;t suppose it occurred to you that the most likely- indeed, the only reasonable- explanation is a misdiagnosis?
We're still very fuzzy on the exact parameters of death. Literally speaking, by definition 'death' is the point of no return but we can only try and measure that point by analysing symptoms and that can be erroneous.
You will note that no-one has ever, EVER returned from, say, having their head ripped off. In every single case you try and quote, we have whole and functioning bodies where clearly the situation is simply that the brain was thought to be dead but actually wasn't. It happens.
Your idea that these people actually are dead and are returning to life is simple nonsense.
Forgive me for my impudence Ushgarak I had no idea you were a medical doctor.
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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, to give me free will in a perfect sinless world is a little too much to ask god for. He just can't do it. 😆
He did it with Adam and Eve--they are the one's who screwed it up for you not God. God has appointed a time when He will restore this world to its former sinless state.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
He did it with Adam and Eve--they are the one's who screwed it up for you not God. God has appointed a time when He will restore this world to its former sinless state.
Bring it back full circle... why did God place the "Tree of Knowledge" in the garden, in the first place, knowing that Eve would eat from it? It's not really free will, now is it?
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True free will would have been if God created the pair with full knowledge and then let them choose to be sinful or not.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Forgive me for my impudence Ushgarak I had no idea you were a medical doctor.🙄
Nor are you.
Fact of the matter is, this doesn't need medical qualifications, just common sense. No reasonable body of medical opinion says "People can come back from the dead," only that "People have come back form what we thought was death."
Originally posted by Robtard
Bring it back full circle... why did God place the "Tree of Knowledge" in the garden, in the first place, knowing that Eve would eat from it? It's not really free will, now is it?
Without options you do not have free will. Free will suggests that you have options or alternatives such as the ability to go left or right. If there is only right then you do not have a choice, do you? God had to give them His express will and then give them something to exercise their free will in relaiton to (i.e. the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Without options you do not have free will. Free will suggests that you have options or alternatives such as the ability to go left or right. If there is only right then you do not have a choice, do you? God had to give them His express will and then give them something to exercise their free will in relaiton to (i.e. the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil).
That is what a limited god would do.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Nor are you.Fact of the matter is, this doesn't need medical qualifications, just common sense. No reasonable body of medical opinion says "People can come back from the dead," only that "People have come back form what we thought was death."
Many people have come back from death (why do you think that this is so unbelievable?).
