Storm vs. Meggan

Started by The Weather God43 pages

Originally posted by Soljer
Perhap is your craptacular ignorance?

Since when was perhap Batdude's ignorance?

Not to mention, craptacular would mean 'of poor quality.'

So...are you saying that Perhap is Batdude's LACK of ignorance?

Please, clear this up for me as I'm quite confuzzled. 😕

lol what? 🙁

Originally posted by The Weather God
Canon haves nothing to do with how marvel thinks.

This is what I made that Wolverine quote against.

It's obvious "What Ifs" aren't directly what Marvel thinks of a situation, and they're NONCANON for a reason.

Originally posted by The Weather God
lol what? 🙁
you made a pretty provincial error and he was just all over your ass for it 🙂

Originally posted by batdude123
This is what I made that Wolverine quote against.

It's obvious "What Ifs" aren't directly what Marvel thinks of a situation, and they're NONCANON for a reason.

From what i've seen with interveiws and other sorts, it's perfectly clear that marvel wants to keep these ladies potentials the same. Isn't it strange that out of all the x-men they choose storm to become the phoenix replacement? That really says alot to me.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
you made a pretty provincial error and he was just all over your ass for it 🙂

....

Yeah, pretty much.

We all make mistakes, so it's not like I'm trying to be some serious grammar nazi. Just having a bit of fun.

I'm sure I've ****ed up a sentence or fifty in my time here.

Originally posted by Soljer
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Yeah, pretty much.

We all make mistakes, so it's not like I'm trying to be some serious grammar nazi. Just having a bit of fun.

I'm sure I've ****ed up a sentence or fifty in my time here.

but when you're insulting some's ignorance, you really have to try hard to use decent grammar

Originally posted by The Weather God
From what i've seen with interveiws and other sorts, it's perfectly clear that marvel wants to keep these ladies potentials the same. Isn't it strange that out of all the x-men they choose storm to become the phoenix replacement? That really says alot to me.

That interview with Chris Claremont was in 1979.... before the Dark Phoenix saga.

Go figure. 🙄

And What Ifs are NONCANON.... therefore, they are, suffice to say, unusable as evidence here.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
but when you're insulting some's ignorance, you really have to try hard to use decent grammar

Too true. It somewhat undermines your position if you reply with "u iz teh stoopid."

Originally posted by batdude123
That interview with Chris Claremont was in 1979.... before the Dark Phoenix saga.

Go figure. 🙄

And What Ifs are NONCANON.... therefore, they are, suffice to say, unusable as evidence here.

Evidence to what? This is not a match for storm vs someone. Also the interveiw had said storm and phoenix so i have no idea what you are talking about, phoenix had to have been there because it states phoenix.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Evidence to what? This is not a match for storm vs someone. Also the interveiw had said storm and phoenix so i have no idea what you are talking about, phoenix had to have been there because it states phoenix.

It was pre-Morrison retcon. In those days, Jean w/ the Phoenix was but a mere a shadow of what the Phoenix is today.

Magneto punked her in a page.

Originally posted by batdude123
It was pre-Morrison retcon. In those days, Jean w/ the Phoenix was but a mere a shadow of what the Phoenix is today.

Magneto punked her in a page.

Beating her doesn't make him more powerful tho, it just means that his power can kill people easly. Also i wasn't talking about the white crown phoenix .

Originally posted by The Weather God
Beating her doesn't make him more powerful tho, it just means that his power can kill people easly.

And yet, he was.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Also i wasn't talking about the white crown phoenix .

I hope not.

Originally posted by batdude123
And yet, he was.

So magneto is more powerful then phoenix? no wonder storm is unable to defeat him.

Originally posted by batdude123
I hope not.

The only phoenix in recent dates are the white crown, so i missed where phoenix is different from the interveiw mentioned before.

Originally posted by The Weather God
So magneto is more powerful then phoenix? no wonder storm is unable to defeat him.

Back then? Sure.

Originally posted by The Weather God
The only phoenix in recent dates are the white crown, so i missed where phoenix is different from the interveiw mentioned before.

And Dark Phoenix and the Phoenix Force itself...

Originally posted by The Weather God
So magneto is more powerful then phoenix? no wonder storm is unable to defeat him.
At that point. He was.
Originally posted by The Weather God
The only phoenix in recent dates are the white crown, so i missed where phoenix is different from the interveiw mentioned before.
Jean Grey is Phoenix is White Crown Phoenix.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Rutgo explained it, you didn't accept and made some snide sarcastic remark about her being on some new aged shit.

I'll just echo what he/she said.

Storm is an elemental mutant. Munipulating earth's weather is just a manifestation of her power fostered by the fact that she is infact an earthling. While on earth she has attuned herself to the earth and can effect it's weather to a great degree.

While in Space, she can take those same powers and apply it to OTHER forms of energy the same way she applies it to the energies that make up earths weather.

Even under water she can munipulate the ocean currents by applying her powers to the water the same way she can munipulate AIR currnets.

When she's on another planet she can do the same.

When she's in space she can munipulate solar winds(an energy pattern), stars(energy pattern) etc.

Her powers don't stop on earth......

I never said I didn't accept it. And snide or not, ideas like planetary and solar "life energy" and being in tune with such is picked right out of the new age literature. Its the same as how Ultimate Thor is based of of David Icke and the entire thing with the Chituri is what he has been saying is real for years.

You do bring up another part of what I was wondering about. Storm is a weather manipulator. If what Marvel means by weather is "conditions surrounding storm at any given moment" she becomes a matter/energy manipulator. Manipulating solar winds, barometric pressure and oceanic currents are completely different actions.

If her powers are diverse enough to do these things, she is needlessly under performing by relegating herself to the use of only weather based phenomena. The powers necessary to control those things could be used much more effectively than through affecting the weather.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
At that point. He was.

No it's just like his iron stop move, it doesn't make him more powerful, phoenix could have turned him into shreds like the movie version.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Jean Grey is Phoenix is White Crown Phoenix.

I know

Originally posted by The Weather God
No it's just like his iron stop move, it doesn't make him more powerful, phoenix could have turned him into shreds like the movie version.

He sucked her life force energy out of her body by manipulating the magnetic forces of the earth.

COMPLETELY different.

He was more powerful than she was.

Originally posted by batdude123
He sucked her life force energy out of her body by manipulating the magnetic forces of the earth.

COMPLETELY different.

He was more powerful than she was.

prove it

Um.... wasn't that the What If issue you were talking to me about?

no that is not the what if issue lol

I'll just post this here since the thread was closed lol

What? She made a star and fainted... How did she absorb millions of stars?

Lol no you read it wrong

prove it? read the scan. it says what he does. And he was more powerful than her back then because she had little control over her power