Storm vs. Meggan

The definition of an Omega mutation is not simply being able to become an elemental. 😐

Omega is about potential for growth. And the only real criterion is to be labelled unambiguously in a comic by one of the authorities on mutation or by writers in something like the 198 files.

Iron Man says possibly in a comic by Reginald Hudlin. ❌

The Marvel website bios are fan-edited. Storm has very real limits to her powers, despite her hyperbole.

The only fully unambiguously confirmed Omegas are:
Elixir
Kid Omega
Mr M
Franklin Richards
Iceman
Jean Grey
Vulcan

The Scarlet Witch warped reality. She is still not an Omega.
Mad Jim Jaspers was a multiversal threat. He is still not an Omega.

Unfortunately Storm doesn't have prep to go imprison herself in a statue until she builds up enough power to escape. 😐

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The definition of an Omega mutation is not simply being able to become an elemental. 😐

Omega is about potential for growth. And the only real criterion is to be labelled unambiguously in a comic by one of the authorities on mutation or by writers in something like the 198 files.

Iron Man says possibly in a comic by Reginald Hudlin. ❌

The Marvel website bios are fan-edited.

The only fully unambiguously confirmed Omegas are:
Elixir
Kid Omega
Mr M
Franklin Richards
Iceman
Jean Grey
Vulcan

The Scarlet Witch warped reality. She is still not an Omega.
Mad Jim Jaspers was a multiversal thread. He is still not an Omega.

The marvel bios are fan-edited But they are checked before they are released by marvel.(Canon)

Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements.

Storm would fit this category with her ultimate extent, storm always had the potential to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale with her lightning. This would mean that storm always had the potential she just never unlocked it before until the future, and according to marvel her ultimate extent has been reveal and it sure as hell looks like she's omega.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
statue until she builds up enough power to escape. 😐

It was never stated that they had to go through whatever they had to go through to get to their peak state, so therefor storm should be able to battle in that peak stage without sitting in a statue for a long time.

Wikipedia most definitely isn't canon. The Marvel online bios aren't canon.

She can't even feed electricity through a security lock. She has limits.

It isn't about having flashy displays of power, Elixir is not particularly powerful, it's about being unambiguously conclusively labelled one by a reputable source and writer. Iron Man written by a moonlighting director, with a transparent political agenda, saying possibly does not suffice.

Possibly means shitall. You either are or you aren't. And she isn't.

She still gets shrunk into nothingness.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Wikipedia most definitely isn't canon. The Marvel online bios aren't canon.

She can't even feed electricity through a security lock. She has limits.

It isn't about having flashy displays of power, Elixir is not particularly powerful, it's about being unambiguously conclusively labelled one by a reputable source and writer.

She still gets shrunk into nothingness.

Ok then where is your proof to prove that she is not omega or doesn't have the potential? Storm was able to fit the descriptions of an omega according to wikipedia. And i see no difference between storm and iceman once she's in her ultimate/peak state so i see no reason as to why storm shouldn't be a possible one.

Several characters can fit that very non-canon description.

Magneto evolved to an EM form in The End. Not canon. Not Omega. Hyperstorm. Not Omega. Scarlet Witch. Not Omega. Jim Jaspers. Not Omega.

Storm. Not Omega.

Why people insist on trying to make their favourite characters Omega mutants I have no idea.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Several characters can fit that very non-canon description.

Magneto evolved to an EM form in The End. Not canon. Not Omega. Hyperstorm. Not Omega. Scarlet Witch. Not Omega. Jim Jaspers. Not Omega.

Storm. Not Omega.

And you can prove this how???? Tell me with storm at her full extent what wouldn't she be able to do that iceman could? Also tell me how magneto evolved into an em field(i bet it wasn't because it was his ultimate extent meaning it's not canon and nothing like storm's story). Storm should be classed omega at her ultimate extent there is no proof to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Why people insist on trying to make their favourite characters Omega mutants I have no idea.

That's far from the question at hand, storm deserves to be omega level(in her ultimate peak)no matter what way you put it

I'm off to bed

Originally posted by The Weather God
And you can prove this how????

Originally posted by The Weather God
Tell me with storm at her full extent what wouldn't she be able to do that iceman could? Also tell me how magneto evolved into an em field(i bet it wasn't because it was his ultimate extent meaning it's not canon and nothing like storm's story). Storm should be classed omega at her ultimate extent there is no proof to suggest otherwise.

Iceman is an Omega mutant. Storm is not.

Originally posted by The Weather God
That's far from the question at hand, storm deserves to be omega level no matter what way you put it

Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm beats Meggan badly. Sorry, but Meggan has never been able to control any natural force on the scale or force that Storm does hers.

In that one "power cosmic" scan, she was in another dimension, not on Earth where this fight is presumably taking place. If the fight took place there, who knows what Ororo's abilities would be. She might be able to dwarf Meggan as she does here on Earth.

Umm... so you're saying that anything that happens in another dimension isn't a good portrayal? So, basically Agamotto isn't even strong, because everything that he does is in another dimension?

Clouded judgment.

Originally posted by bigbran
Clouded judgment.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Understatement. He/she/it thinks Storm can beat Thor.

Thor would literally walk through all her blasts, grab her, bend her over, and...
get a little more than 10/10... 😖hifty:

He's pretty much done that already, though he kissed her instead of the bending over and whatnot.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
He's pretty much done that already, though he kissed her instead of the bending over and whatnot.

Originally posted by bigbran
Sweet! When?

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
and whatnot.

Great site and great art btw. 😉

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The 2nd Contest of Champions iirc.
I should wash your mouth out with soap.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Great site and great art btw. 😉

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You do not become an Omega, you are born one.

Iron-Man is not an authority on mutation. Nor is Pete Wisdom. Which is why neither Storm nor Chamber are Omega mutants.

The likes of Xavier, Beast and Emma Frost, those who have officially labelled all the other Omega mutants, have been around Storm for many years. The 198 files which officially labelled Franklin Richards and Mister M as Omega mutants does not do so for Storm.

She is not an Omega mutant.

In addition Hudlin is a hack.

Alternate universes are not canon continuity.

Whoa…just because you don’t like something doesn’t mean it is not creditable. You might dislike Hudlin but it still doesn’t change the fact that Storm is now considered a possible omega mutant.🙂

Originally posted by bigbran
She was able to suck Earth from power, so she could grow and fight Galactus.

While I found that to be a cool way for her to use her powers, you should keep in mind she didn't fight Galactus. We have no idea if she was anywhere near the power level needed to defeat Galactus, so in my opinion it really not a good example to show her true potential. Now if Rachel would have let them fight it would have given us a clear indication of Meggan’s abilities.

Originally posted by bigbran
Umm... so you're saying that anything that happens in another dimension isn't a good portrayal? So, basically Agamotto isn't even strong, because everything that he does is in another dimension?

Okay you lost me right here. 😕 I think he saying that the fight is taking place in an area where environmental enhancements will not play a part in this battle. (like when Prof. X's dark side went to the micro-verse and destroyed two planets.

This is the way I see it.

Storm’s ability to summon the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease

VS.

Meggan ability to use the power from otherworld to help slow down an energy-wave that might have destroyed the universe.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Storm’s ability to summon the energy of millions of stars and planets with ease

"possible omega mutant" means squat.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And destroy herself and only survive because of the Acanti. 😐

Uh...as far as we know Meggan is dead too. 😛

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
"possible omega mutant" means squat.😐

It mean that she could be an omega mutant which is something you can't change, no matter how much you might dislike it.🙂

Meggan's probably very much dead due to the Chaos Wave, unless someone retcons that, but not because she harnessed the power of the Beyond.

And really, "possible Omega mutant" really does mean absolutely nothing. Omega is something a mutant either is or isn't. A lot of mutants could be Omega mutants whenever Marvel decides to conclusively label them that. Making the phrase "possible Omega" utterly meaningless. Jaspers. Wanda. Much higher contenders.

Chamber is not an Omega. Neither is Storm. I don't even really count Rachel Summers, Nimrod was not referring to her as an Omega threat in the same way the term is used today. The label in itself really means nothing much anyway, Elixir is Omega, he still dies horribly against Storm or Meggan or Havok or Psylocke and so on.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The definition of an Omega mutation is not simply being able to become an elemental. 😐

Omega is about potential for growth. And the only real criterion is to be labelled unambiguously in a comic by one of the authorities on mutation or by writers in something like the 198 files.

Iron Man says possibly in a comic by Reginald Hudlin. ❌

The Marvel website bios are fan-edited. Storm has very real limits to her powers, despite her hyperbole.

The only fully unambiguously confirmed Omegas are:
Elixir
Kid Omega
Mr M
Franklin Richards
Iceman
Jean Grey
Vulcan

The Scarlet Witch warped reality. She is still not an Omega.
Mad Jim Jaspers was a multiversal threat. He is still not an Omega.

Unfortunately Storm doesn't have prep to go imprison herself in a statue until she builds up enough power to escape. 😐

Excellent analyzation. However, I think the reason they don't consider Wanda an Omega is because of her link to mystic powers.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
who is this Meggan?

Don't fall to far behind

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meggan