Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Um no. Storm gets sad and it rains. Thats not stronger emotional control. Meggan can control everything Strom throws at her.
That doesn't happen very often which mean it's control. Also meggan's powers are probably not locked into her emotions like storm.
As far as this match goes it would be the person with the greator control
Here she was able to override doom's control over lightning and nearly destroyed him in one blast
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Do you even know what Jaspers, Wanda and Hyperstorm are capable of? They are leaps and bounds and leaps and further bounds and so on and so on and so on, above Storm.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I didn't read X-Men: The End because it was quite crap. And non canon. Like other alternate reality futures are non canon. The AoA i.e. Earth-295 is not canon.
I thought so 🙄
What your not understanding is it was not the fact that it was an alternate reality in the future, but the fact that her ultimate extent was revealed and it doesn't matter if she hasn't unlocked the extent yet, that peak has still been revealed and therefor it's canon in this discussion
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Iceman is an Omega mutant. Storm is not.
Deserves. 😂
Everything seems to be funny but you've still failed to prove me wrong. 🙄
Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Maybe it was her Ultimate peak in that universe. If its an alternate future that means its not the canon future. Just because she is destined for that in that future doesn't mean she is destined for it in the 616 future
Marvel WroteMonths later, the eternal mutant Apocalypse made a bid for power by gathering together the Twelve, a group of mutants prophesied to usher in a golden age for their kind that counted Storm amongst their number. Apocalypse was defeated, but not before the ultimate extent of Storm's mutant power was revealed in an alternate future wherein she had evolved into a wholly elemental being.
This is canon because marvel states this them self that this is storm's ultimate peak, it doesn't matter if it was an alternate reality, the ultimate peak/extent of her powers were still revealed
Originally posted by bigbran
She was able to suck Earth from power, so she could grow and fight Galactus.Umm... so you're saying that anything that happens in another dimension isn't a good portrayal? So, basically Agamotto isn't even strong, because everything that he does is in another dimension?
Clouded judgment.
No. What I am saying is that both Storm and Meggan are limited by their environment and strength of wills. In other words, what Meggan can accomplish ine one dimension does not mean she can do this in all dimensions. Same with Storm. She can summon the full power of millions of stars in space, but not on Earth.
In regards to the Meggan/Galactus thing, I don't know why so many people misinterpret that. Meggan's power levels were nowhere near strong enough to do him damage. She grew to his size, but it was blatantly stated that there is not even enough resources on Earth to beat him. In other words, even if Meggan could steal all of the planet's resources (and there is nothing that definately states that she can while Storm definately can steal all of the planet's life-force), she still would have been a joke to him. He is cosmic. That is greater than planetary/earthly.
Meggan may control some of the same forces Storm does, but Ororo has a higher degree of control. She is Mistress of the Elements and has proven this by taking control of the elements from other characters like Hurricane and Shaman. Storm has been able to affect the eco-system on a contnental scale more than once and even over an entire hemisphere. This trumps anything Meggan has done with the elements a thousand fold.
As for the guy who says meggan can control EM energies, big deal. Storm has done this as well on numerous occassions.
Meggan controls a number of forces, but she isn't very powerful in any of them. Storm beats her badly.
Storm's bond with the Earth is also stronger. For instance, Ororo cannot be directly harmed by the weather's manifestations unless her bond is fractured (I know that there are issues that ignore this with Storm, but we give characters their full power on these boards). MEggan has no such resistance to elemental forces. For instance, if its cold outside, she has to grow fur so as to avoid freezing. This is a power that will have limits depending on the temperature, obviously. Storm, on the other hand, is immune to the cold. Ororo can widen her perceptions over massive areas, etc.
Originally posted by 2damnloud
There was an excerpt from an interview with CC in 1974 where he said that storm and Jean(with phoenix force) are equal in power, Phoenix just has "higher burst".
They did try to even out storm and jean grey's power with uncanny x-men 147
Read the cover
On the inside it states that storm was going down the same road jean grey went with the phoenix, and for once she knew how jean felt as the phoenix.
MY mistake, it was 1979 from Rampage Magazine(UK)
The interviewer (someone called Richard Burton, I'll abbreviate it to RB) is asking Chris various questions, working through the characters...
"RB: Storm next...
Chris Claremont: Storm is basically what she is...a goddess, a three-dimensional goddess, if such a thing is possible.
RB: When the new X-Men first appeared Storm was probably the most powerful and dramatic member. Do you feel now that she's been slightly upstaged by Phoenix?
Chris Claremont: No. In equal terms of raw power, they're approximately equal.
Jean can maintain a higher burst...she can peak higher than Storm but she can't hold it for long. The thing with Storm is that all we've done till now is show her throwing lightning bolts and creating hurricanes, but she can do far more. Phoenix is more visual - the 'bird effect' is more spectacular. So the gist of it is that they complement each other. They do different things in different ways."
Originally posted by 2damnloud
MY mistake, it was 1979The interviewer (someone called Richard Burton, I'll abbreviate it to RB) is asking Chris various questions, working through the characters...
"RB: Storm next...
Chris Claremont: Storm is basically what she is...a goddess, a three-dimensional goddess, if such a thing is possible.
RB: When the new X-Men first appeared Storm was probably the most powerful and dramatic member. Do you feel now that she's been slightly upstaged by Phoenix?
Chris Claremont: No. In equal terms of raw power, they're approximately equal.
Jean can maintain a higher burst...she can peak higher than Storm but she can't hold it for long. The thing with Storm is that all we've done till now is show her throwing lightning bolts and creating hurricanes, but she can do far more. Phoenix is more visual - the 'bird effect' is more spectacular. So the gist of it is that they complement each other. They do different things in different ways."
Very interesting pizza
