Storm vs. Meggan

Originally posted by Rutog98
No. What I am saying is that both Storm and Meggan are limited by their environment and strength of wills. In other words, what Meggan can accomplish ine one dimension does not mean she can do this in all dimensions. Same with Storm. She can summon the full power of millions of stars in space, but not on Earth.

In regards to the Meggan/Galactus thing, I don't know why so many people misinterpret that. Meggan's power levels were nowhere near strong enough to do him damage. She grew to his size, but it was blatantly stated that there is not even enough resources on Earth to beat him. In other words, even if Meggan could steal all of the planet's resources (and there is nothing that definately states that she can while Storm definately can steal all of the planet's life-force), she still would have been a joke to him. He is cosmic. That is greater than planetary/earthly.

It wasn't about Galactus. It was about draining the Earth. Her power was enough to be draining the Earth.
Find me proof that Storm can drain the planets resources. Everything you have said, has had no backup, at all. Just your worded statements.

I'm going to need proof of her draining Earth. Then I will need proof of her having the full power of a million stars.

Meggan wins.

Another thing... STORM IS NOWHERE NEAR THE PHOENIX IN ANY ASPECT!!!
I never thought of Storm fans, to be like this (I never thought there was Storm fans).
So basically, you guys think that Storm is near Galactus?
🤨
No really.

Wow... so this thread became some kind of weird Storm jerkoff fest.

Originally posted by Brian Oswald
Isint this 'elemental Storm' from an alternate future?

Originally posted by The Weather God

So basically you know shitall about Jaspers and the Scarlet Witch. The fact that you think that even compares is amusing.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I thought so 🙄

What your not understanding is it was not the fact that it was an alternate reality in the future, but the fact that her ultimate extent was revealed and it doesn't matter if she hasn't unlocked the extent yet, that peak has still been revealed and therefor it's canon in this discussion

Originally posted by The Weather God
Everything seems to be funny but you've still failed to prove me wrong. 🙄

Meggan at her peak be it in limbo, in Otherworld, on Earth or in the Beyond, is still 616 Meggan. And she wins.

I always wonder why your always in storm vs threads... maybe because your just a plain old storm hater.😉

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
And then Storm floats around basically dead until the Acanti saves her.

You do realize that i wasn't talking about her floating around in space but the simple fact of what she did before that. Quit dogging the dam point and see that storm did something on a grand scale

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So basically you know shitall about Jaspers and the Scarlet Witch. The fact that you think that even compares is amusing.

I don't give a dam what you think i know or not, i know what storm is capable and she deserves to become an omega in her ultimate form so except it and move on, either provide evidence or keep your comments to yourself.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What you're not understanding is that alternate universes like Earth-295 are not canon for the 616 character. Nor is becoming an elemental form in itself sufficient to be an omega.

I already said i understand that it was an alternate future. You just don't want to except the fact that marvel states that this is her ultimate/peak form, Future or Not it is her ultimate extent.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I don't need to prove anything. You either are an Omega or you aren't. The term in itself is pretty meaningless already. "possible Omega mutant" is utterly meaningless. Pretty much every mutant is a possible Omega mutant, if and when they're conclusively unambiguously called an Omega mutant by a legitimate source they are one.

The term makes perfect sense to me. If storm doesn't reach her ultimate extent then she won't be an omega, Her ultimate peak form has already been revealed which therefor places her in omega because she was able to turn into a wholly elemental being. Her ice power works just like iceman by raising and lowering temperatures, only difference was storm was not immuned and was not able to turn herself into a elemental being, this is not the case with her ultimate/peak form because now she will be an elemental. So pretty much she'd be another iceman with more powers in her arsenal.

Still see a difference? i think not

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meggan at her peak be it in limbo, in Otherworld, on Earth or in the Beyond, is still 616 Meggan. And she wins.

Maybe or Maybe not. Your still forgetting rogue storm who had ultimate potential and was connected to the entire planet.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I always wonder why your always in storm vs threads... maybe because your just a plain old storm hater.😉

Originally posted by The Weather God
You do realize that i wasn't talking about her floating around in space but the simple fact of what she did before that. Quit dogging the dam point and see that storm did something on a grand scale

I don't give a dam what you think i know or not, i know what storm is capable and she deserves to become an omega in her ultimate form so except it and move on, either provide evidence or keep your comments to yourself.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I already said i understand that it was an alternate future. You just don't want to except the fact that marvel states that this is her ultimate/peak form, Future or Not it is her ultimate extent.

Originally posted by The Weather God
The term makes perfect sense to me. If storm doesn't reach her ultimate extent then she won't be an omega, Her ultimate peak form has already been revealed which therefor places her in omega because she was able to turn into a wholly elemental being. Her ice power works just like iceman by raising and lowering temperatures, only difference was storm was not immuned and was not able to turn herself into a elemental being, this is not the case with her ultimate/peak form because now she will be an elemental. So pretty much she'd be another iceman with more powers in her arsenal.

Still see a difference? i think not

Possible omega mutant is meaningless.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Maybe or Maybe not. Your still forgetting rogue storm who had ultimate potential and was connected to the entire planet.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Funny that the crazy fanboy will try to label people arguing against the character a "hater".

Not argue hate on the character everytime a storm thread is made you are sitting right in everyone saying storm loses. I am far from crazy smartass

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mad Jim Jaspers and the Scarlet Witch warped the 616 universe, and both posed threats to the omniverse. They are still not Omega mutants. Nothing Storm has ever done comes anywhere close.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Marvel online bios are not canon. Alternate realities are not canon.
You cannot be a possible Omega, it has nothing to do with reaching a peak form, it isn't about being an elemental. You do not become an Omega you are born one. It's not about flashy displays of power. Elixir is an Omega regardless of how powerful he becomes, or unimpressive he currently is.

Prove that they are not canon, i don't see it anywhere in the rules and they are checked by marvel before they are released so i don't see what's the big deal. Your just trying to find a way to keep storm depowered in this fight, what are you afraid of?

Also as far as i'm concerned it's canon in the books that she is a possible omega mutant so there has got to be a reason they say so, i've also never seen this proof your talking about that keeps storm so much out of the omega level status. I've already explained it to you, storm has displayed great potential with her powers and by seeing her becoming a wholly being in the future proves there is no difference between her and iceman.

Originally posted by The Weather God

The term makes perfect sense to me. If storm doesn't reach her ultimate extent then she won't be an omega, Her ultimate peak form has already been revealed which therefor places her in omega because she was able to turn into a wholly elemental being. Her ice power works just like iceman by raising and lowering temperatures, only difference was storm was not immuned and was not able to turn herself into a elemental being, this is not the case with her ultimate/peak form because now she will be an elemental. So pretty much she'd be another iceman with more powers in her arsenal.

Every mutant is possibly Omega...Hell, even Maggot's possibly Omega. But their not omega until it's stated in cannon that they are.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Not argue hate on the character everytime a storm thread is made you are sitting right in everyone saying storm loses. I am far from crazy smartass

Originally posted by The Weather God
Here storm absorbs millions of stars from the galactic core which is an impressive feat because her power was boosted to unimaginable degrees. The fact that storm hold's this much potential is enough to call her an omega just by that feat.

This is the Scarlet Witch:

They are still not Omega mutants.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Prove that they are not canon, i don't see it anywhere in the rules and they are checked by marvel before they are released so i don't see what's the big deal. Your just trying to find a way to keep storm depowered in this fight, what are you afraid of?

Also as far as i'm concerned it's canon in the books that she is a possible omega mutant so there has got to be a reason they say so, i've also never seen this proof your talking about that keeps storm so much out of the omega level status. I've already explained it to you, storm has displayed great potential with her powers and by seeing her becoming a wholly being in the future proves there is no difference between her and iceman.

Elixir is an Omega mutant.

"possible Omega mutant" by Iron Man, of all people, in a Black Panther comic, of all things, by Hudlin, of all writers. Means absolutely nothing.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Every mutant is possibly Omega...Hell, even Maggot's possibly Omega. But their not omega until it's stated in cannon that they are.

Wait, it was HUDLIN that wrote that Storm was a possible omega mutant? 🤨

Hudlin overrating and overwriting an african superhero. There's a surprise.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, it was HUDLIN that wrote that Storm was a possible omega mutant? 🤨

Hudlin overrating and overwriting an african superhero. There's a surprise.

Originally posted by Soljer
Wait, it was HUDLIN that wrote that Storm was a possible omega mutant? 🤨

Hudlin overrating and overwriting an african superhero. There's a surprise.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Further irony in that, in the very very short amount of time he's been writing Storm, he's written her character shitty for Black Panther's benefit, despite trying to make her look powerful in terms of powers, by making Doom and others look bad.

Hahaha, where is that scan of Storm acting like an ignorant ***** while talking to Namor?

Oh, wait, we aren't allowed to scan entire issues....😬.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There are numerous people I think Storm beats. There are numerous people I don't think she does. When people think she can alone beat Thor, Magneto, bloodties Exodus, the entire Hellfire Inner Circle. Then yes, I'm going to argue against it. Just as I would if people said that Wolverine beats Storm.

Well i've never said storm can beat any of those people, sorry it just seem's as tho i'm arguing with either you or exedus in ever storm vs thread.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This is Mad Jim Jaspers:

This is the Scarlet Witch:

Sir James Jaspers is without a doubt one of the most powerful mutants to ever live in any reality and one of the most likely (though officially unconfirmed) candidates for being an omega-level mutant. The lesser powerful Earth-238 version of Jaspers was able to warp his entire universe beyond recognition to such a degree that it became necessary to destroy the Earth-238 timeline completely just to stop the Jaspers' Warp from spreading to other universes. From what Merlyn hinted during his telepathic alert to Captain Britain, the more powerful Earth-616 Jaspers was an omniversal scale threat whose power would continue to grow and develop on an exponential rate:

He has to be able to live without a body or he's no omega even tho he was considered an omega. Maybe this has not been done and this is why people are never announced as omega.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
They are still not Omega mutants.
And I've already explained to you that it has nothing to do with displays of power or being an elemental.

I never said it had to be just be an elemental form they could turn into.

Omega-level mutant is a fictional designation for a certain powerful class of super-powered individuals in the Marvel Comics universe to indicate mutants with the ability (or potential) to exist beyond the boundaries of physical existence. Immortality is also a possibility, but not a requirement. Being able to control matter and energy on the sub-molecular scale, as well as having a body capable of withstanding such power levels without external help, also seem to be requirements.

Storm fits this description in her ultimate form. As i said she would be just like iceman but more powerful.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Every mutant is possibly Omega...Hell, even Maggot's possibly Omega. But their not omega until it's stated in cannon that they are.

Meggan can't turn into an elemental.

Originally posted by Soljer
Hahaha, where is that scan of Storm acting like an ignorant ***** while talking to Namor?

Oh, wait, we aren't allowed to scan entire issues....😬.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Gotta love the look on Namor's face "WTF is this retard woman talking about? We weren't talking about Susan, were we? No...we were talking about stuff that affects the whole world and she starts spouting about love triangles."

Originally posted by The Weather God
Meggan can't turn into an elemental.

Edit: Who's arguing about Meggan being one?

Originally posted by The Weather God
None of those were elemental forms.The jim jasper looked like he had made a astral form of himself, and the scarlet witch looks like she just blew up. Omega also means that you can live without a body and can live with only a consciousness.

He has to be able to live without a body or he's no omega even tho he was considered an omega. Maybe this has not been done and this is why people are never announced as omega.

Originally posted by The Weather God
I never said it had to be just be an elemental form they could turn into.

Which is inaccurate anyway.

Now you say it doesn't have to be.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Storm fits this description in her ultimate form. As i said she would be just like iceman but more powerful.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Meggan can't turn into an elemental.

Now you're saying it does have to be.

Which is wrong.

Seriously what the hell are you talking about.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
DC put that scan on the Civil War Report thread.

Ugh...Hudlin....

Atrocious.

EDIT: Also, Mad Jim Jaspers was an OMNIVERSAL threat.

All-verses.

Every single one. Not a Universal threat. Not a Multiversal threat. An OMNI-versal threat. "Oh, but storm is more powerful! She can...like....make the wind blow, guys!"

Yeah, okay...

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Edit: Who's arguing about Meggan being one?

Abilities
Can convert body into any form of energy within the electromagnetic spectrum.

That would still put her as possible because she has to do this within the electromagnetic spectrum

That's not ultimate power either.

Originally posted by The Weather God
That's not ultimate power either.

Storm does ultimate what now?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yeahbuhwhat? 🤨

Storm does ultimate what now?

High cup top cow.

Sharp shade my disk?

Light tip blackened round!