Storm vs. Meggan

Originally posted by The Weather God
I know enough to know that magneto is not as powerful as phoenix, and that was the dicussion of the white crown phoenix which i know little about.

Originally posted by The Weather God
All of this and i fail to see the difference between storm and iceman once she's in her elemental form, you still argued that storm wouldn't be an omega even if she was an elemental. Evidence proves that storm's powers can practically reach the entire universe and she wouldn't have a limit to how much she could handle as in the absorbsion of stars because she would a elemental. Storm was also able to create a costume out of nothing and reassemble them which would be molecule manipulation. Again why would iceman be an omega when storm can do practically everything he can do an more? Storm is only limited to her body, without it she would have limitless potential.

Entire universe? Just no. Phoenix circa 1980s ate stars and made them go supernova. Galactus draining Rachel while she was a host for the Phoenix blinked out stars.

Storm was infected with Broodspawn and was in the galactic core. Here and only here due to the density of the stars did she absorb some energy from many stars, she does not absorb the full power of those stars nor does she control them as you've earlier stated, she absorbs some energy from them and managed to kill the Brood, but nor does she survive because she can't handle this power.

Being an elemental being is not a requisite for being an Omega. Nor is being an elemental being sufficient to be classed as an Omega. Of the Omega's only Iceman is an elemental.

Everything you've stated about an elemental Storm is purely speculative bullshit, from the perspective of someone who really wants Storm to be an Omega.

Iceman is an Omega because he has been stated conclusively as one. Just like Elixir who has never done anything particularly impressive whatsoever. Flashy displays of power do not make one an Omega.

Again:

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
This is Mad Jim Jaspers:

This is the Scarlet Witch:

They are still not Omega mutants.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Magneto is not as powerful as the Phoenix nowadays, but was back then.

Prove it

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The fact that you fail to see things comes as no surprise to me.

Entire universe? Just no. Phoenix circa 1980s ate stars and made them go supernova. Galactus draining Rachel while she was a host for the Phoenix blinked out stars.

You make it seemed as tho the phoenix had a hard time destroying a star? Again not proof that magneto was more powerful, magneto can't even destroy one star.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Storm was infected with Broodspawn and was in the galactic core. Here and only here due to the density of the stars did she absorb some energy from many stars, she does not absorb the full power of those stars nor does she control them as you've earlier stated, she absorbs some energy from them and managed to kill the Brood, but nor does she survive because she can't handle this power.

Prove that it was because of that she was able to do that. As i said storm wouldn't have a body in elemental form she would be able to absord the entire star without a strain because there is nothing holding her back.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Being an elemental being is not a requisite for being an Omega. Nor is being an elemental being sufficient to be classed as an Omega. Of the Omega's only Iceman is an elemental.

Not being an elemental is what hold's storm back, without a body to strain herself she would have practically limitless power.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Everything you've stated about an elemental Storm is purely speculative bullshit, from the perspective of someone who really wants Storm to be an Omega.

Everything marvel stated was complete bull-shit to you because your perspective doesn't want storm to be an omega level because you hate her.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Iceman is an Omega because he has been stated conclusively as one. Just like Elixir who has never done anything particularly impressive whatsoever. Flashy displays of power do not make one an Omega.

Then why can't you tell me what would be the difference between storm and iceman once she becomes an elemental? You can't and you failed to do so, now that storm and iceman's powers work the same why the hell can't storm be an omega like iceman if storm's power works like him by lowering temperatures to freeze?

She can you just don't want her to be, why? because you hate storm and don't want her to be, this is the reasons your in every storm vs thread saying she loses.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Again:

Again, they are still not Omega mutants.

None of those people haves iceman powers now do they?

Originally posted by The Weather God
Prove it

Originally posted by The Weather God
You make it seemed as tho the phoenix had a hard time destroying a star? Again not proof that magneto was more powerul, magneto can't even destroy one star.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Prove that it was because of that she was able to do that. As i said storm wouldn't have a body in elemental form she would be able to absord the entire star without a strain because there is nothing holding her back.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Not being an elemental is what hold storm's back, without a body to strain herself she would have practically limitless power.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Everything marvel stated was complete bull-shit to you because your perspective doesn't want storm to be an omega level because you hate her.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Then why can't you tell me what would be the difference between storm and iceman once she becomes an elemental? You can't and you failed to do so, now that storm and iceman's powers work the same why the hell can't storm be an omega like iceman if storm's power works like him by lowering temperatures to freeze?

She can you just don't want her to be, why? because you hate storm and don't want her to be, this is the reasons your in every storm vs thread saying she loses.

Blah blah blah hate Storm blah blah.

Originally posted by The Weather God
No of those people haves iceman powers now do they?

They power

Yes, not agreeing with your bullshit speculation means I hate Storm. Everyone hates Storm. Everyone. Blah blah.

No. You and the other fanatics have simply made Storm the new Wolverine. Congratulations.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He was depicted as her power level back then, pre-Dark Phoenix saga. Her power levels have since grown exponentially.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That wasn't a comment about Magneto vs Phoenix power. That was about your bullshit speculation about Storm controlling the entire universe.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Entering the galactic core reverses the Brood transformation temporarily. The effects of the galactic core did not take place until she entered it. Let's take a page from your book. Show her doing anything of that magnitude outside of the galactic core.

The panel even states that her powers are amplified in space because the atmosphere is much bigger and that she can see the whole universe in a energy pattern. Without a body there wouldn't be a strain on herself to control the whole thing.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Show some limitless power. Elixir is an Omega, he has a human body. He is still an Omega.
No everything that you've stated is bullshit speculation. Blah blah blah you hate Storm blah blah.
Prove that she could do anything that Iceman could do. Show the scans of her in an elemental form from the non-canon book. Show something she did.

Blah blah blah hate Storm blah blah.

Here she states herself that her powers are limitless, this further more proves that her body is what limits her powers as i said

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
What does having Iceman's powers have anything to do with being an Omega mutant. Oh that's right it doesn't. They're not Omegas because they haven't been stated as such. They're possible Omegas, their type and level of power, fit very well. But they aren't because they haven't been confirmed as Omegas.

See this is exactly what i'm talking about, just because they don't say it doesn't mean it's not true, Hell they've already considered her a possible omega level, now that her powers work the same as iceman you still don't want to face facts because your so caught up in your hate you don't want to accept it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, not agreeing with your bullshit speculation means I hate Storm. Everyone hates Storm. Blah blah.

It's not a bull-shit speculation, you just don't want to face facts that storm will become an omega as an elemental and there is not a damn thing that could suggest otherwise. Except for your crazy ass speculation that believes people are considered omega only when confirmed by marvel. The damn elemental thing hasn't even happened yet for you to even argue with my point. 🙄

Originally posted by The Weather God
You call that proof?

In her elemental form she could, her body limits her power that's why she couldn't.

The panel even states that her powers are amplified in space because the atmosphere is much bigger and that she can see the whole universe in a energy pattern. Without a body there wouldn't be a strain on herself to control the whole thing.

Here she states herself that her powers are limitless, this further more proves that her body is what limits her powers as i said

See this is exactly what i'm talking about, just because they don't say it doesn't mean it's not true, Hell they've already considered her a possible omega level, now that her powers work the same as iceman you still don't want to face facts because your so caught up in your hate you don't want to accept it.

It's not a bull-shit speculation, you just don't want to face facts that storm will become an omega as an elemental and there is not a damn thing that could suggest otherwise. Except for your crazy ass speculation that believes people are considered omega only when confirmed by marvel. The damn elemental thing hasn't even happened yet for you to even argue with my point. 🙄

Without a body... oh wait she has one. She could. She would. If. Possible.

Show it on panel.

Hyperbole. Later she compares herself to Thor, who could stop the Storm she initiated with ease.

Blah blah you hate Storm blah blah.

See.. you start a sentence with "It's not bullshit speculation.." and then end it with bullshit speculation.

People are only Omegas when they're confirmed by Marvel. How in your deluded mind is that speculation.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
She's bound to the Acanti. And she did nothing on the level of her one single solo galactic core feat.

Without a body... oh wait she has one. She could. She would. If. Possible.

[b]Show it on panel.

Hyperbole. Later she compares herself to Thor, who could stop the Storm she initiated with ease.

Blah blah you hate Storm blah blah.

See.. you start a sentence with "It's not bullshit speculation.." and then end it with bullshit speculation.

People are only Omegas when they're confirmed by Marvel. How in your deluded mind is that speculation. [/B]

She said thor could stop the storm with a mere thought because his powers are magic based unlike storm who haves to manually control the things that make the storm.

Try again

Originally posted by The Weather God
Read the panel correctly, she didn't say with ease.

She said thor could stop the storm with a mere thought because his powers are magic based unlike storm who haves to manually control the things that make the storm.

Try again

Thor has superior power over the weather regardless of the method with which he controls it.

Still waiting to see her limitless power on panel.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
With a thought = figurative = with ease. Even if taken literal. Still means with ease.

Thor has superior power over the weather regardless of the method with which he controls it.

Still waiting to see her limitless power on panel.

You don't get it with the proof sitting right in your face, the panel said nothing about thor being more powerful then her, it only states that they're powers work differently.

Nothing else.

And her powers were never limited in that panel

Originally posted by The Weather God
You don't get it with the proof sitting right in your face, the panel said nothing about thor being more powerful then her, it on states that they're powers work differently.

Nothing else.

Still waiting for her limitless power on panel.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Through numerous threads you've said Storm doesn't need to work the forces of nature in a particular manner to create her effects and can do so with a thought. You've argued against a lag in her powers. Yet now you accept it. And consequently that her powers have lag. Okay. 😊

Still waiting for her limitless power on panel.

I said to stop a storm can weaken her body because she haves to give her own energy source to control it. Creating the storm is an entirely different matter because she would have died trying to make the storm in the first place. I don't see a lag in her powers because the effects happen immediately and all at once.

Again the panel never showed a weakness, just showing that her and thor's powers work differently

Originally posted by The Weather God
I said to stop a storm can weaken her body because she haves to give her own energy source to control it. Creating the storm is an entirely different matter because she would have died trying to make the storm in the first place. I don't see a lag in her powers because the effects happen immediately and all at once.

Again the panel never showed a weakness

😂 You think that scan shows her having limitless power. Yeh that's on par to the IG.

🤣

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
So stopping a storm requires her to work the forces of nature but starting one doesn't. yeah that isn't completely and utterly illogical.

😂 You think that scan shows her having limitless power.

🤣

She states herself that she does, for some reason storm has shown extream weakness in stopping storms, creating them doesn't get her weak.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Batdude that is hardly proof of him being more powerful then phoenix. She can destroy an entire star system with ease and destroy magneto with ease. Those feats have nothig on how powerful the phoenix is, yes he defeated her........No he is not more powerful then her in any form of phoenix.

Someone mentioned psy blocks on jean? are you trying to get over on me? 😉

😐 😐

😂

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What the fuck are you talking about Weather God? In those days, the Phoenix was NOWHERE NEAR as powerful as she is today. Today, the Phoenix force is a cosmic entity that is a universal abstract. Back then, she was around Thor level in terms of power.

She never destroyed a solar system, or a planet even for that matter.

This comic took place before the Dark Phoenix saga.

Please get your facts straight. Back then, Magneto was MORE powerful than the Phoenix was. Period.

Originally posted by batdude123
😐 😐

😂

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What the f[B]uck are you talking about Weather God? In those days, the Phoenix was NOWHERE NEAR as powerful as she is today. Today, the Phoenix force is a cosmic entity that is a universal abstract. Back then, she was around Thor level in terms of power.

She never destroyed a solar system, or a planet even for that matter.

This comic took place before the Dark Phoenix saga.

Please get your facts straight. Back then, Magneto was MORE powerful than the Phoenix was. Period. [/B]

So your telling me that she wasn't a molecule manipulate then?

Originally posted by The Weather God
So your telling me that she wasn't a molecule manipulate then?

Yeah, she could still do that.

So?

Originally posted by batdude123
Yeah, she could still do that.

So?

Then she was more powerful simply because of that fact alone, she could have still turned magneto into shreads.

He was not more powerful.

Originally posted by The Weather God
Then she was more powerful simply because of that fact alone, she could have still turned magneto into shreads.

He was not more powerful.

😐 😐

You realize Magneto can manipulate objects on a molecular, and even subatomic level, right?

Course not...

🙄

When will fanboys learn?

Storm with PMS doesn't = Omega Mutant 😐

Originally posted by batdude123
😐 😐

You realize Magneto can manipulate objects on a molecular, and even subatomic level, right?

Course not...

🙄

Not close to how far phoenix can, right?

Course not 🙄

Originally posted by Grimm22
When will fanboys learn?

Storm with PMS doesn't = Omega Mutant 😐

Who said it did, thing fanboy.