Force: Kas'Im. He's been a master and probably knows a little bit more than Maul's basic moves. HOWEVER, this is FP Maul. I would say FP Maul would defeat Kas'Im in swords becuz he has Sidious as a master who'll teach him a bunch of stuff.
Saber: Kas'Im. He was said to be one of the greatest swordsmen of his time and a master of all forms. He would definately beat TPM Maul and closely beat FP Maul.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
there's already been a statement and quote provided. Provide proof to the contrary. Prove it was misinterpreted.
seems that Ush won due to being a mod and being hard headed. She gave up, you can only prove a point for so long. I really don't care what USh or restricted boy say. Ush didn't "prove" anything, and i don't care what anyone really says about it. It didn't say those were QGJ's thoughts and it never said he would get better. In any reasonably rational persons mind, to assume he would get better is silly, and simply their opinion. To assume is to guess...if it was proven, it would not be an assumption, now would it? And you cant use that pathetic excuse that English isn't my first language so i don't understand it. Ush basically said that to assume that Maul would never get better is silly...when in all actuality, he was assuming that Maul would get better. How is his assumption better or more acceptable than anyone else's who actually have written words to support them? I don't care if he's an english teacher, that doesn't make his assumption more prevalent to Star Wars than anyone else's.
Advent didn't say she lost til after she just gave up due to dealing with innate stubbornness. I'm sure she believes that she is still correct nd her mind has not actually changed. And i will not be convinced that Maul will never get better either. Hence Peak, Apex, and Never to get any better.
Ushagarak and Advent are in a higher plane of debating then mine. I can't judge who wins.
Anyway, it's surprising that Maul's peak was what he showed in TPM. I mean, no Force moves at all except a simple push. Maul wasn't a tool for Sidious, unlike Dooku, he was for real. I expected him to be throwing Senate pods with ease like his master.
uh...what? It even said in his bio from various sources, that maul was designed Sidious to be his weapon, his toll of destruction. He wasn't meant to be a great force user like Dooku. The whole point of Dooku was to show the mastery side of the Sith vs the brutal Jedi killing machine type. His force powers would never surpass, let alone reach Dooku's or Sidious'. And really, debating has nothing to do with it...its just reading what was written. And when nothing contradicts it, thats how you have to accept it, as its written.
Darth MaulIndoctrinated in the ways of the dark side from youth, Maul had no emotion aside from bloodlust and rage. During his training, any show of fear was severely punished by Sidious and any hint of mercy rewarded with cruelty. By the time Maul was an adolescent, his master had already forged him into a weapon of pure hatred. Marked by Sith tattoos that covered his entire muscular body, the young Zabrak was now the ultimate tool of the dark side. Despite this rather traumatic childhood (if it could be called that), Maul adored his Master, and never once contemplated killing him — until his final test.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
seems that Ush won due to being a mod and being hard headed. She gave up, you can only prove a point for so long. I really don't care what USh or restricted boy say. Ush didn't "prove" anything, and i don't care what anyone really says about it. It didn't say those were QGJ's thoughts and it never said he would get better. In any reasonably rational persons mind, to assume he would get better is silly, and simply their opinion. To assume is to guess...if it was proven, it would not be an assumption, now would it? And you cant use that pathetic excuse that English isn't my first language so i don't understand it. Ush basically said that to assume that Maul would never get better is silly...when in all actuality, he was assuming that Maul would get better. How is his assumption better or more acceptable than anyone else's who actually have written words to support them? I don't care if he's an english teacher, that doesn't make his assumption more prevalent to Star Wars than anyone else's.Advent didn't say she lost til after she just gave up due to dealing with innate stubbornness. I'm sure she believes that she is still correct nd her mind has not actually changed. And i will not be convinced that Maul will never get better either. Hence Peak, Apex, and Never to get any better.
Actually, Advent stated that Ush "defeated her" so.... (Not saying that is the case, but your saying that she gave up by the sheer stuborness of them while she herself said she was defeated).