We've given detailed explanations all through this thread but they just haven't peirced the veil of fanboyism that seems to sheild you guys form the truth.
And Wanda goes all out and wipes out the Omniverse which takes the Phoenix with it. seems straight forward enough. For more details read over the thread.
See everyone? When you try to talk logic to a Phoenix Fanboy, what you see above is all they hear.
Yes, read the thread over and see that we've more then proved our case, we aren;t going to type the same thing over and over to you hoping somehow this time you'll actualy understand.
And there is no point in me putting scans down that someone else in the thread already has, that's called logic, a concept foregin to Phoenix Fanboys.
And if you don't like to be called Fanboys, stop acting like one.
Originally posted by What If...
The host of the PF CAN be easily killed, with no defenses.She reaching out a helping hand when he got her, if you seriously think he has a chance in hell to do shit to her with her shields up/going offensive....
When Wanda was shot dead in the Heart by Hawkeye with an arrow, she didn't have her defenses up either,
Seems like she's dead
Notice the arrows Position, right on the side of the Heart,
Hawkeye came to KILL, READ the scan.
But she CAN'T Die...arrow in her back deconstructs...everything IS as WAS.
"If I couldn't KILL you"......
If any Mortal gets shot in the Heart by Hawkeye, their going to die.
Instead,
Wanda breaks Hawkeye up into little blocks.....
A powerhouse like Jean, should not die from an ElectroMagnetic Pulse.
And incidentally, Jean is in Phoenix Form when Xorn killed her.
This is what Jean looks like vulnerable and separated from Phoenix
Good evening my friends. Missed me?
Lets get the ball rolling. Allow me to annihilate a misconception.
The chaos wave was not something Wanda generated herself or controlled, therefore any and everything it did is not a feat of Wandas or an indication of her power, therefore saying look what the chaos wave did compared to what Phoenix is done is an irrelevant analysis.
Wandas tamperings with reality resulted in the chaos wave. It was a side effect of her manipulations.
Someone please find one statement on panel that says Wanda generated the Chaos Wave directly.
A statement that says Wanda consciously controlled the chaos wave.
I look forward to any replies. 🙂
Originally posted by Ext@nt
We've given detailed explanations all through this thread but they just haven't peirced the veil of fanboyism that seems to sheild you guys form the truth.And Wanda goes all out and wipes out the Omniverse which takes the Phoenix with it. seems straight forward enough. For more details read over the thread.
you're like that crazy little dog in the old kibbles and bits commerical that runs around, following the bigger dog and frankly, i'm getting a little sick of your insulting tone. why do you always say "we" as if YOU'VE done a damn thing to convince anyone of anything beyond the fact that you can scream fanboy louder than anyone else?? what has actually happened is that masters put forth an explanation, did some work and threw up scans while you just roam around and ride his coat-tails and try to claim that somehow "you" have proven something to ANYONE!
please.
i may disagree with mm's claims, but at least he's done SOMETHING to back up what he said rather than simply sit back and point to someone else's work and claim it as his own.
perhaps you should consider name change to something more appropriate like remoraz.
and for mm: i found an interesting little bit about a neural jumpstart where jean is capable of increasing the speed that neural signals travel at in other -- in fact she can make other mutants think faster. from what i've been able to gather, she was still able to read thoughts in these mutants. i'm still looking for scans and issue numbers . . . the pf was also capable of taking over quentin quire and reading his thoughts and he is capable of 1000000s of thoughts/second. again, not "conclusive", but perhaps some further slight indications (along with her ability to perceive and process while in-flight at ftl speeds) that she can think faster than your 'average mutant'.
the immortality issue of course, still remains. 🙁
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Someone please find one statement on panel that says Wanda generated the Chaos Wave directly.A statement that says Wanda consciously controlled the chaos wave.
No one said she had control of the Wave during HOM.
It's obviously the thread strater's desire to have her at FULL control of the Wave.
The Wave itself did ORIGINATE form Wanda, but it's true, we all know she didn't have conscious control of it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
No one said she had control of the Wave during HOM.It's obviously the thread strater's desire to have her at FULL control of the Wave.
The Wave itself did ORIGINATE form Wanda, but it's true, we all know she didn't have conscious control of it.
Nope. The Wave was triggered by Wandas tamperings with reality. Roma states in Uncanny X-men 462 that the wave is a trans temporal tsunami RESULTANT from a global alteration.
Wanda neither generated or controlled it. Therefore all it did is not a feat of Wandas, not something achievable by her power.
Originally posted by leonidas
you're like that crazy little dog in the old kibbles and bits commerical that runs around, following the bigger dog and frankly, i'm getting a little sick of your insulting tone. why do you always say "we" as if YOU'VE done a damn thing to convince anyone of anything beyond the fact that you can scream fanboy louder than anyone else?? what has actually happened is that masters put forth an explanation, did some work and threw up scans while you just roam around and ride his coat-tails and try to claim that somehow "you" have proven something to ANYONE!please.
i may disagree with mm's claims, but at least he's done SOMETHING to back up what he said rather than simply sit back and point to someone else's work and claim it as his own.
perhaps you should consider name change to something more appropriate like remoraz.
and for mm: i found an interesting little bit about a neural jumpstart where jean is capable of increasing the speed that neural signals travel at in other -- in fact she can make other mutants think faster. from what i've been able to gather, she was still able to read thoughts in these mutants. i'm still looking for scans and issue numbers . . . the pf was also capable of taking over quentin quire and reading his thoughts and he is capable of 1000000s of thoughts/second. again, not "conclusive", but perhaps some further slight indications (along with her ability to perceive and process while in-flight at ftl speeds) that she can think faster than your 'average mutant'.
the immortality issue of course, still remains. 🙁
Please provide a link or scans to back that up.
And If Wanda wipes out the Omniverse, the Phoenix's immortality is no longer and issue.
Why is it Fanboy's can't read over threads?
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Nope. The Wave was triggered by Wandas tamperings with reality. Roma states in Uncanny X-men 462 that the wave is a trans temporal tsunami RESULTANT from a global alteration.Wanda neither generated or controlled it. Therefore all it did is not a feat of Wandas, not something achievable by her power.
Read HOM #1 and see the wave spread out from Genosha where she was.
Read HOM #8 to see it spread otu from her.
GS, your are now the leader of the Phoenix Fanboys.
Originally posted by leonidas
the immortality issue of course, still remains.
I await the rest,
all you have to do Leon is give me the issue #'s, I have mostly all the X-Men, I'm filling up as we speak my collection.
It comes down to that, "the immortality issue"
And the invulnerability issue too.
Is this a fight to death, or first knockout wins?
Originally posted by leonidas
you're like that crazy little dog in the old kibbles and bits commerical that runs around, following the bigger dog and frankly, i'm getting a little sick of your insulting tone. why do you always say "we" as if YOU'VE done a damn thing to convince anyone of anything beyond the fact that you can scream fanboy louder than anyone else?? what has actually happened is that masters put forth an explanation, did some work and threw up scans while you just roam around and ride his coat-tails and try to claim that somehow "you" have proven something to ANYONE!please.
🙂
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Read HOM #1 and see the wave spread out from Genosha where she was.Read HOM #8 to see it spread otu from her.
GS, your are now the leader of the Phoenix Fanboys.
That was the reality warp. The thing she used to alter reality to the HOM one. That and the Chaos Wave are two completely separate things. The Chaos Wave is something that was sparked off by Wandas amateur tamperings with reality as stated by Roma.
I suggest you read Uncanny X-men HOM which actually dealt with the chaos wave.
The main HOM series had nothing to do with it. 🙄
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Chaos Wave Originated from Wanda, Wanda CREATED the Chaos Wave but she didn't have conscious control of it.
Nope. Wanda triggered the chaos wave through her amateur tamperings of reality.
Liken the chaos wave to an avalanche set off by a yodeling traveller.
It was neither generated by or controlled by Wanda. It was something she unknowingly set off, that is why its not mentioned once in the main HOM title, but is instead dealt with in Uncanny X-men.
The chaos wave is nothing but the spillover of 616 into other realities.
