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Originally posted by darthgoober
He was still a hero. And he didn't end up concentrating on evil, he concentraded on Death. That's when he decided to kill off Multi Death, was during his hero phase. So the comparison stands.

I guess you can call Thanos w/ Heart a hero as well.
He remade the Multi-verse.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I guess you can call Thanos w/ Heart a hero as well.
He remade the Multi-verse.

Except that the Beyonder actually pursued the title of and considered himself a hero.

Where do you place the In-Betweener?

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Originally posted by King Kandy
Where do you place the In-Betweener?

Galactus level, lower "Abstracts"... though technically Big G is not an Abstract per say.

I hate Galactus and along with him all the overpowered galactical/multiversal threat people. I mean there is no point to make a character so strong. I appreciate and respect heroes like Kyle Rayner, Green Arrow, Hawkgirl, Spider-Man and so. Heroes who gotta put effort in a strong fight...Not like being stronger than everyone. That goes for Silver Surfer and Captain Marvel. That is only my opinion.

Originally posted by Rewmac
I hate Galactus and along with him all the overpowered galactical/multiversal threat people. I mean there is no point to make a character so strong. I appreciate and respect heroes like Kyle Rayner,

Didn't Ion like contain a Big Bang explosion?

Didn't Ion create a Universe?

Those are uber feats, so you shouldn't like him either.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Galactus level, lower "Abstracts"... though technically Big G is not an Abstract per say.

Okay... the way he was unfased by the soul gem made me wonder. Plus his creation of the Magus.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Didn't Ion like contain a Big Bang explosion?

Didn't Ion create a Universe?

Those are uber feats, so you shouldn't like him either.


nah the one Who contained the Big Bang was Kyle although he is Ion but that time he didn't had such power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Didn't Ion like contain a Big Bang explosion?

Didn't Ion create a Universe?

Those are uber feats, so you shouldn't like him either.

It's about being big and ugly 😄 😛

And yeah Kyle contained the Big Bang, stood up a lot of powerful characters. But as Ion he is the OA Corps in one person. 😕

The Yancy Street Gang Members all have full names listings(most of them) and a nickname, 2 of them are just called Stan and one called Jack.

Think it's for a reason?

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
The Yancy Street Gang Members all have full names listings(most of them) and a nickname, 2 of them are just called Stan and one called Jack.

Think it's for a reason?

What the f'uck you talking about?

Originally posted by Rewmac
What the f'uck you talking about?

Jack Kirby and Stan Lee.

I was wondering if Mr Master thought this has much to do with them.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Agamotto is a joke in comparison with my Hierarchy and Galactus is not in My list either.
Agamotto is multiversal.
This one is interesting, because Agamotto, sort of hints that he is essential to the multiverse, which would also make him multiversal.(lower left hand corner)Hmmm....
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5167/galactusagamatto57wn.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
[B]Agamotto is multiversal.
This one is interesting, because Agamotto, sort of hints that he is essential to the multiverse, which would also make him multiversal.(lower left hand corner)Hmmm...

I have to see a Multiversal feat to buy that.

That could mean many things, "his DUTY to the multi-verse"

It could simply be hyperbole.

Or perhaps he operates from universe to universe, which is not Multiversal.

Remember that to be a Top Level Multiversal power, you have to be able to affect 2 Universes entirely or more simultaneously.

If you can show me proof of him doing that, we'll add him to the hierarchy.

Originally posted by Sub_Mariner
The Yancy Street Gang Members all have full names listings(most of them) and a nickname, 2 of them are just called Stan and one called Jack.

Think it's for a reason?

I don't even know who the Yancy Gang is?

Elaborate a little more my good friend.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have to see a Multiversal feat to buy that.

That could mean many things, "his DUTY to the multi-verse"

It could simply be hyperbole.

Or perhaps he operates from universe to universe, which is not Multiversal.

Remember that to be a Top Level Multiversal power, you have to be able to affect 2 Universes entirely or more simultaneously.

If you can show me proof of him doing that, we'll add him to the hierarchy.

Does basically empowering Strange count?
He basically toyed with Galactus, and when he was about to get mad, the other Vishanti stepped in.

I don't know if he has any outright feats to put him there, but he isn't "small time". He's above Galactus.

What about Entity? Created a universe, possessed abstracts, destroyed yet another universe, and was considered a god by beings who could kill celestials with a glance.

Originally posted by bigbran
Does basically empowering Strange count?
He basically toyed with Galactus, and when he was about to get mad, the other Vishanti stepped in.

I don't know if he has any outright feats to put him there, but he isn't "small time". He's above Galactus.

where'd you get that idea? in a straight up battle, g and aggy stalemated (and that was an average, at best, galactus), no real advantage either way. not sure why g couldn't have started absorbing aggy's world like he did mephisto's. maybe because the battle didn't last long enough.

all 3 vishanti TOGETHER would likely (likely because all 3 to my knowledge have never been together AND been in battle so their true level is unknown) be beyond the 'standard' version of galactus.

i think mrm's take is accurate though -- imo they operate from universe to universe (from their dimension to strange's) or dimension to dimension and rarely (if ever) LEAVE their individual dimensions where they are that dimension's 'supreme power'. either way, i'd say their purview remains WITHIN 'our' eternity as opposed to being 'truly' multiversal.

Originally posted by leonidas
where'd you get that idea? in a straight up battle, g and aggy stalemated (and that was an average, at best, galactus), no real advantage either way. not sure why g couldn't have started absorbing aggy's world like he did mephisto's. maybe because the battle didn't last long enough.
As soon as Galactus destroyed one of Agamotto's orbs (or whatever) he got mad. He was about to unleash on Galactus until the Vishanti came in.
Also Strange was fearing for Galactus. Also, maybe Galactus could have done so, but I think altogether that Agamotto's realm should be more than Mephisto's.
Maybe it is also because Agamotto is the most powerful one that empowers Strange too. Or maybe its because he empowers on of the biggest pis machines in comics. Interchangable.

Originally posted by leonidas
all 3 vishanti TOGETHER would likely (likely because all 3 to my knowledge have never been together AND been in battle so their true level is unknown) be beyond the 'standard' version of galactus.

I believe the one that fought Galactus was more powerful than Galactus.
But really, I don't know. Since Galactus was basically, stupid in that comic. All he thought that Agamotto was, was a worm.
He didn't take him really seriously.
Maybe if they fought again, with a clearcut winner, could people see who is more powerul.

Maybe I'm arguing for the comment on Ags being small time.

Originally posted by leonidas
i think mrm's take is accurate though -- imo they operate from universe to universe (from their dimension to strange's) or dimension to dimension and rarely (if ever) LEAVE their individual dimensions where they are that dimension's 'supreme power'. either way, i'd say their purview remains WITHIN 'our' eternity as opposed to being 'truly' multiversal.
Maybe, maybe not. Has it ever been fully explained on how that works?