Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes, the way he murdered the Nine Masters of Magic in the recent Infinity Crisis Companion.... 😬

He sure put a stop the thier evil ! 🙄

Killing Nabu ! Spectre sure did a GREAT DEED there !

Secondly, you never pwned me, get over your delusion.

And yes, I have.

Anyways, this isn't the thread for this, and for respect to what Mr Master has accomplished in this thread, I won't spoil it any farther dealing with you again. 🙂

-tips his Bears hat.-

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Beta Ray Howard is a lousy debator

🙂

Harsh but...... 🙂

Originally posted by Mr Master
I just love this.

(not Marvel)

But what's the context?

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought it was awesome, too.

But what's the context?

he has none.

🙂

Originally posted by King Kandy
I thought it was awesome, too.

But what's the context?

Nah,

I just like them so I posted them.

I thought that was the great evil beast once but that's actually from a title called Artesia I believe.

Just some visual entertainment man. 🙂

Many of us have been arguing about the Big Bang.

I seen alot of hyperbole, claims filled with talk and NO action,

well HERE it is, ON PANEL Stated and Artistically depicted.

This is WHO the Big Bang truly is:

When Entropy and Insane Genis Erased Eternity from existence, Entropy quickly begins to feel the weight of meaninglessness.

"Is this, all there is?"

Genis explains to Entropy what his purpose is, that being the Implosion of a Universe.

Entropy realizes that in erasing Eternity (his Father) he has gained everything, which is nothing.

Entropy knows his existence is meaningless without Eternity, so Rick suggests CREATING a New Universe.

This goes against Entropy's Conceptual Nature, he can only destroy Eternity, BUT since Eternity is no longer in existence, Entropy has NO Conceptual Laws to abide by and thus CAN Create instead of Un-create.

Entropy finds meaning again, but doesn't know what to Create, Rick tells him to start with what he knows.

Entropy only knows what Eternity was, and decides to Create that.

Entropy CAN Kill Eternity any time he feels like it. (that's his purpose as a Concept)

Yet, Entropy doesn't know where to begin, cause Creating is something he's never done,

but Entropy IS the Universe right now, so Genis shoots him and Entropy Explodes (BIG BANG) into a UNIVERSE/Eternity.

The BIG BANG is ENTROPY!

ENTROPY becomes ETERNITY!

and everything begins again.

Except that's only the big bang for one universe and never happened again...

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
If you can't enter a thread and pay respect to the thread starter by at the very least being semi-polite and not flaming people, don't post.
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Originally posted by King Kandy
Except that's only the big bang for one universe and never happened again...

And how many "other" Big Bangs you seen taking place On Panel?

And that "one" Universe happens to be 616 Eternity/Universe.

Don't try and contradict the On Panel evidence for whatever personal reason you have.

This is NO Talk and ALL Action baby, the 616 Universe being CREATED via a Big Bang On Panel and it was Entropy that embodied THAT Big Bang.

Magus put Eternity in a Catatonic State and Created a Duplicate 616 Universe with 5 Cosmic Containment Units:

"Powerful Eternity Catatonic"

"Artificially Induced by an OUTSIDE FORCE"

AGAIN......

Again...Here is Quasar "Reality Hopping" ..... trying to find Eternity

He does...He finds Eternity...

"He's Catatonic....It appears to be Induced by OUTSIDE FORCES"....

What did this to Mighty Eternity? ................................... Magus with his Cosmic Containment Units:

From where? ........ many Realities away

Many Realities away ...

Doom&Kang find Magus's stronghold after what?

Breaking Through to the Desired Reality.

Here Magus asks Thanos, "You now Protect what you once sought to Decimate?"

"What does Reality mean to one such as you?".... I don't think Thanos was very interested in Conquering or Decimating JUST A Dimension.

Thanos tells Magus...It is what brought me to this "Forsaken Corner of the Plane...To Safeguard the Sanctity of my Own Reality"

Warlock here says.." For The Sake of this Universe....This Fragile Reality (he's referring to the same Universe) once again needed saving"

Next Panel...Warlock, "For the good of This wretched Actuality .... let someone else save the Universe this time around"

Galactus and others traveling..."In a TIME and PLACE that is Neither"...

Where do they End Up?...."In a Reality MANY steps removed from Our Own"

Silver Surfer..."We must Return to Our Reality"

Here Galactus sends Thor back to our universe

Magus with,

5 Cosmic Containment Units Creates a Duplicate 616 Universe

And begins MERGING BOTH Universes,

it was a slow process with the 5 CCUs, but with the Incomplete IG, Magus MERGED the Two Universes instantly.

Magus with an INCOMPLETE Infinity Gauntlet had TOTAL CONTROL of TWO UNIVERSES,

and he himself was in a UNIVERSE separated from these TWO Universes he was TOTALY CONTROLLING!

"My TAKEOVER of your ACTUALITY, USING my now missing Cosmic Containment Units, WOULD HAVE TAKEN HOURS to Accomplish"

"Other matters have a higher priority now, such as MAKING your UNIVERSE MINE"

With his INCOMPLETE IG, Magus MERGED TWO UNIVERSES in an INSTANT.

More PROOF:

Immediately after Magus MERGERS the TWO UNIVERSES:

Dr Strange says,

"We have FAILED, the Magus has WON this Round"

Xavier says,

"Already I feel it METAMORPHOSING into something Unrecognizable"

Galactus says,

"Energy Levels Up in the target Dimension, ALTERATIONS in MY OWN REALITY"

Warlock remakes the 616 Universe back to it's original form, from Universes away

And WHEN its over,

Moondragon solidifies the FACT it was a Cosmic scale Warp,

"But this time he wasn't able to UNIVERSALLY Wipe Away the memory of what has OCCURRED"

There was a head or two that disputed this Feat, saying Magus did not merge the Two Universes, saying Magus WAS merging them with the Incomplete IG when he WAS DOING that already to begin with,

with the 5 Cosmic Cubes.

In anycase, though it's Artistically depicted and though it is accompanied by On Panel statements conclusively telling us he did MERGE both Universes (616 & its Duplicate)

My question is this on the non believes...

"My TAKEOVER of your ACTUALITY, USING my now missing Cosmic Containment Units, WOULD HAVE TAKEN HOURS to Accomplish"

"Other matters have a higher priority now, such as MAKING your UNIVERSE MINE"

With his INCOMPLETE IG, Magus MERGED TWO UNIVERSES in an INSTANT.
(On Panel Art and character statements are clear)

WHY would Magus put a TIMETABLE on the progress of the Cosmic Containment Units, to Compare it to what he could accomplish with the Incomplete IG?

"WOULD HAVE TAKEN HOURS" with the CCUs,

so NOW with the Incomplete IG, it will take One "Hour," "Minutes," "Seconds" or WHAT? dontgetit

Originally posted by Mr Master
And how many "other" Big Bangs you seen taking place On Panel?

And that "one" Universe happens to be 616 Eternity/Universe.

Don't try and contradict the On Panel evidence for whatever personal reason you have.

This is NO Talk and ALL Action baby, the 616 Universe being CREATED via a Big Bang On Panel and it was Entropy that embodied THAT Big Bang.

We saw the standard Collapse-rebirth big bang...

We saw the N-Galaxy big-bang.

We saw a lot of big bangs, and the whole Entropy-Genis thing was a one-time deal.

Originally posted by King Kandy
We saw Genesis go back in time and make the big bang...

Really, Let me know what issue, I have the Genis collection.

I never seen Genis go back in time and make a Big Bang.

I'll post the scans when you tell me what issue you saw this in.

Originally posted by King Kandy
We saw the standard Collapse-rebirth big bang...

What the hell does this mean?

Originally posted by King Kandy
We saw the N-Galaxy big-bang.

That was an Alternate Universe, NOT 616, and it's NOT mentioned in Eternity's bio, which means it had NOTHING to do with Eternity or the 616 Universe.

But Entropy destroying and becoming the 616 Eternity/Universe through a Big Bang, when Entropy himself became the Big Bang ... IS:

(excerpt from the official Handbook of the Marvel Universe 2006)

First time I ever seen On Panel the Cycle of the 616 Universe being presented from it's Cycled death, (Entropy) to it's Cycled Re-Birth (Entropy becomes the Big Bang and Eternity is Re-Born)

btw.

The Mkraan Crystal event in that Alternate Reality was UN-Natural, because the Dweller in Darkness's Machinations had damaged the Crystal. The X-Men, and Shiar were trying to stop it from cracking, even Phoenix and the X-Men as One tried, but failed.

So the Crystal was unleashed and that Universe was absorbed and recreated.

Same thing when the N-Galaxy threatened the Universe back in X-Men#108, Dken's Machinations led to a Mkraan threat, the Mkraan itself doesn't decide one day to absorb the Universe and create another one, that's just the way it works if it's unleashed.

Originally posted by King Kandy
We saw a lot of big bangs,

I guess we haven't seen alot of Big Bangs after all friend, you jumped the gun a bit to soon.

Originally posted by King Kandy
and the whole Entropy-Genis thing was a one-time deal.

A one-time deal that involved the 616 Universe/Eternity and the cycled finality of 616 which is Entropy,

then Entropy becomes the Big Bang and Creates a New 616 Eternity/Universe. ALL ON PANEL!

Unlike the one-time deal SABOTAGE of the Mkraan Crystal in an Alternate Universe, which lead to the re-creation of said Alternate reality. (that's NOT a Big Bang duke)

Big Bangs happen Naturally, (like Entropy) NOT through Manipulations (like Mkraan)