Originally posted by guy222
Mr. M, do u believe Celestials have the power to destroy stars
Definitely.
Now don't think just because Galactus' true form is a Star, a Celestial can just obliterate Galactus as easily as a real Star.
Surely there's a uniqueness to the kind of Star Galactus embodies.
After all, it's energy is seemingly Infinite, as it will Radiate Outward for ever.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Definitely.Now don't think just because Galactus' true form is a Star, a Celestial can just obliterate Galactus as easily as a real Star.
Surely there's a uniqueness to the kind of Star Galactus embodies.
After all, it's energy is seemingly Infinite, as it will Radiate Outward for ever.
U make a good point. Do u think Marvel will make the connection with Celestials and Galactus?
Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually you pooh-poohed it yourself.Now you're saying that the Sentience IS the M-body?
hmm, where did i say that exactly . . .?
though i didn't, i also never said it was impossible for the sentience to be housed in an m-body though i've covered that earlier in this very cool thread. 😄 imo, varying degrees of an abstract can appear in an m-body, but an m-body can be destroyed and the sentience left unaffected. happened to anomaly. beyonder destroyed eternity's m-body (though you think he was playing a trick or something . . .) and of course eternity himself says that he is a visualization. but you say he is 'lying'. there are other examples scattered throughout the thread.
Obviously the Sentience being Freed was an artistic visualization.And One M-body was in the Dimension of Manifestation.
So better luck next time in finding that Multiple Manifestation Outside the Dimesnion of Manifestation.
Still nothing New. [/B]
😂
so the one coming out of the 'non-functioning' sentience is simply an artist's tool (which is fine, it may well have been) but the one in the dimension of m was not? sure, if that's how you justify it. 😄
fact is, 2 eternity m-bodies were manifested at the exact same time, one inside the other. and it may have been an artsist's tool, but the m-body was recognized by gamora. and she would know -- after all she had entered the other m-body to get there. 🙂
and no, that does not mean that i am saying the sentience is the m-body. i agree with you in part -- the second m-body WAS shown symbolically, a means of saying the consciousness has been released. the consciousness was ALREADY shown to be a glowing mass of energy and NOT an m-body, so again, they are seperate entities.
however, that doesn't change the fact that 2 m-bodies manifested simultaneously. 😉
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, where did i say that exactly . . .?though i didn't, i also never said it was impossible for the sentience to be housed in an m-body
Actually you did say this:
Originally posted by leonidas
yes . . .? because . . . the REAL eternity does not exist within ANY m-body. that's what i've been saying. the spiritual consciousness does NOT reside within the m-body . that's born out by his commenst to the m-body he saw before lt.
I only beought it up cause you took scans and statements I made months back from that very same thread, so I figured I'd do the same.
Perhaps you don't see things the same way as you did then,
but then again, Neither do I.
Originally posted by leonidas
though i've covered that earlier in this very cool thread. 😄
^^^ 😄
Next time stick to the here and now, don't go searching out in OTHER threads what I said MONTHS back, as opinions change due to an increase in information/knowledge.
You must agree,
since you saw how YOUR own stance has changed from the SAME thread you tried to make me look as though I'm contradicting myself.
Originally posted by leonidas
imo, varying degrees of an abstract can appear in an m-body, but an m-body can be destroyed and the sentience left unaffected.
I disagree, and that's the end of it.
Originally posted by leonidas
happened to anomaly.
When Anomaly's M-body was killed, Maelstrom became it's Sentiece and Concept,
so that doesn't stick.
After Maelstrom was taken out, the Sentience "apparently" returned OFF PANEL to it's proper Concept.
Where that Sentiene was in the meantime while Maelstrom usurped it's position is a mystery.
Originally posted by leonidas
beyonder destroyed eternity's m-body (though you think he was playing a trick or something . . .)
It was a trick.
Protege & the Beyonder are insects in Scathan's hand:
Suddenly Protege & the Beyonder increase size (as big as Scathan) and seemingly "destroy" Eternity
Next Panel - Protege & the Beyonder are insects in Scathan's hand AGAIN!
"We reverted back as if nothing happened ... Indeed Nothing has"
Eternity gives them a False explanation of why that happened:
And gets called out on the LIE!
"LIAR ... you're all afraid of me and what I can do ...
I am the most powerful being there ever was, I will surpass you all"
Interestingly enough, the LT doesn't dispute that Eternity was LYING,
only that TOAA is the only one above him.
Just like Eternity LIED about the Infinity Watch to LT, (proved in the prior page)
just like Eternity LIED to Warlock about the IG. (proved in the prior page)
Originally posted by leonidas
and of course eternity himself says that he is a visualization. but you say he is 'lying'.
Right,
a "Visualization" that made Thanos the actual Universe:
"Thanos has now USURPED Eternity's rightful position as the CENTER of ALL REALITY"
There's no way around this friend.
Originally posted by leonidas
so the one coming out of the 'non-functioning' sentience is simply an artist's tool (which is fine, it may well have been) but the one in the dimension of m was not? sure, if that's how you justify it.
The Sentience, which resides within the M-body of Eternity was freed,
the Artist depicted the Sentience as the image of Eternity & Infinity,
LT and Galactus did not acknowledge the Sentience once it was freed,
they spoke to the M-body that was still in the Dimension of Manifestation which houses the Sentience.
Originally posted by leonidas
fact is, 2 eternity m-bodies were manifested at the exact same time, one inside the other. and it may have been an artsist's tool, but the m-body was recognized by gamora. and she would know -- after all she had entered the other m-body to get there.
Gamora entered Eternity's M-body to find the Sentience in order to free it.
Like a Brain surgeon enters your body to operate,
the Brain is the Consciousness/Sentience.
The Sentience did not speak, it was only depicted.
Gamora left the M-body, and Galactus proceeded to speak to Eternity in the Dimesnion of Manifestation.
When you show me just Two separate Manifestations taking place simultaneously, in different locations, I'll concede.
Until then, it's pointless to respond.
Originally posted by leonidas
and no, that does not mean that i am saying the sentience is the m-body. i agree with you in part -- the second m-body WAS shown symbolically, a means of saying the consciousness has been released. the consciousness was ALREADY shown to be a glowing mass of energy and NOT an m-body,
Wow, we agreed on something, cause I agree with this 100%
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Originally posted by leonidas
so again, they are seperate entities.
I disagree,
the Sentience is the Spiritual Consciousness of Eternity the M-body.
Same entity.
If they were separate,
Gamora wouldn't have entered Eternity's M-body to find it.
Originally posted by leonidas
however, that doesn't change the fact that 2 m-bodies manifested simultaneously.
As you wish ... 🙂
