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Originally posted by King Kandy
That's not true...

Captain Marvel outright said that when Entropy destroyed the Universe, the Universe became Entropy, A.K.A. "A state of inert uniformity".

Oblivion is the embodiment of Nothingness

"DO you hear it? ... All the Nothing? ... so Peaceful."

"I could have let you face Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

(this also proves it was indeed the Multiverse that was destroyed by Genis & Entropy ...

the Microverse is in a separate Universe outside 616)

"sometimes you can have everything ... and literally end up with Nothing"

Genis says,

"Entropy is Matter and Energy degrading to a ultimate State of Inert Uniformity"

Rick even says, "What did he expect to Exist at the end of everything"

(implying Nothing)

"State of Inert Uniformity"

What does this mean?

"Inert" means:

(lacking the ability or strength to move)

"Uniformity" means:

(the quality or state of being uniform)

"Uniform" means:

(not changing in form or character; remaining the same in all cases and at all times)

"Inert Uniformity" = (a constant state that can never move or change)

In other words, Nothingness.

Entropy solidifies this:

"The Mortal (Rick) is correct. I have everything, but Nothing"

Alex Summers a.k.a. Havok

may be the most powerful being in the Omniverse, after LT.

Ok check it out:

The Beyonder re-emerges from a state of suspended animation, revived by another "Force" ... this "Force" has merged with him after the "Force" had absorbed a portion of the true Nexus of ALL Realities.

Beyonder reaches into the mind of Captain America and looks into some of his Past,

"A Dimensional Walker? He (Alex) came to this place from another Reality"

"He subdued the Goblin Queen? She is a Force of Universal Nature, How could a Human (Alex)...? Yes ... I see it now.

He (Alex) wields more Power than he could possibly imagine"

So Beyonder realizes it's Alex Summers who contains unimaginable power, and now seeks to find him, in order to take it from him.

Beyonder levitates and mind rapes the World's population then kills everyone:

(Well those that didn't survive the fall atleast)

If Beyonder finds Havok this will br the outcome:

"He will End everything ... the Multiverses ... the Past ... the Present ...

the Yet to Be ... will all be Destroyed"

Can anyone say OMNIVERSE!!!

This isn't just the Beyonder though:

continues in the next post ...

Havok finds out for the first time that the Nexus of Realities resides within him:

"The Nexus of Realities is not just a place ... it is a Force of Nature ...

the Fabric of that which binds ALL Reality together ...

the Nexus transported itself to your body"

Alex has not yet adapted at properly harnessing the energies of the Nexus, so Reed builds a suit for Alex that will draw on the powers of Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier, to help Alex harness the power of the Nexus:

Alex confronts the Beyonder, and the Beyonder reveals the puppeteer:

The Goblin Queen

The Goblin Queen tries to mind rape the inexperienced Alex:

But Alex fights back, but the Goblin Queen is confident:

"This entire World ... and Countless Others will fall before me"

Havok and the Goblin Queen battle in a different Plane of Reality:

"In the Countless Multiverses you (Alex) alone are unique"

"So much Power in such a small mind ...

we could have Conquered the Multiverses together ... Now I will have to do it alone"

Alex finally adapts to his power by using Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier to harness the power of the Nexus, Alex absorbs the Goblin Queen into the Nexus erasing her from existence, and then becomes ONE with the Nexus ensuring no one else will ever be able to tap into it's power, save him.

Alex Summers a.k.a. Havok becomes the Nexus of ALL Realities in the Omniverse:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Havok finds out for the first time that the Nexus of Realities resides within him:

[B]"The Nexus of Realities is not just a place ... it is a Force of Nature ...

the Fabric of that which binds ALL Reality together ...

the Nexus transported itself to your body"

Alex has not yet adapted at properly harnessing the energies of the Nexus, so Reed builds a suit for Alex that will draw on the powers of Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier, to help Alex harness the power of the Nexus:

Alex confronts the Beyonder, and the Beyonder reveals the puppeteer:

The Goblin Queen

The Goblin Queen tries to mind rape the inexperienced Alex:

But Alex fights back, but the Goblin Queen is confident:

"This entire World ... and Countless Others will fall before me"

Havok and the Goblin Queen battle in a different Plane of Reality:

"In the Countless Multiverses you (Alex) alone are unique"

"So much Power in such a small mind ...

we could have Conquered the Multiverses together ... Now I will have to do it alone"

Alex finally adapts to his power by using Dr Strange - Mordo and Xavier to harness the power of the Nexus, Alex absorbs the Goblin Queen into the Nexus erasing her from existence, and then becomes ONE with the Nexus ensuring no one else will ever be able to tap into it's power, save him.

Alex Summers a.k.a. Havok becomes the Nexus of ALL Realities in the Omniverse:

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Mr. M, is that from Mutant X. Do u have the scans when the Celestials imprisioned the Goblin Force

That looks like nothing but unfounded hyperbole to me.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
That looks like nothing but unfounded hyperbole to me.

I'm not sure, hyperbole is when something is stated but never depicted On Panel.

In this case Havok is depicted visually absorbing the Nexus of all Realities so ...

Yea, I have to disagree friend.

The series has been kept in continuity for a while and it took the story Years to reach this climatic finality.

Back in 1999, Havok was realizing his Wife Madelyn had been over taken by the Goblin Queen:

This is Canon 616 Havok by the way, that just happens to be in this Alternate Reality:

Dr Strange tells Alex about the Nexus of Realities, while they battle the GQ and her minions in the swamps where the Nexus is located:

Havok tells Strange to teleport himself and the rest of his mates out of there:

To seemingly destroy the Nexus of all Realities:

Havok thought he destroyed the Nexus of all Realities, and Strange danced around the notion, that's because Strange wanted to keep it a secret from Alex and the rest, to essentially protect him, from others that might try to usurp his power that lays latent within him.

Several Years later it ties into this, like I posted earlier.

Strange explaining that moment back in 1999 when Havok thought he destroyed the Nexus, but in fact, the Nexus transported itself into Havok's body:

btw. the Beyonder, Strange, the Ancient One, Reed Richards, Dracula and the Goblin Queen all seemed to agree on Havok and his power.

MultiverseS (plural) was mentioned several times.

Mr. M, YOu do realize that when people refer to "Nothing" or "Oblivion", it's not always a literal void?

Like when you say "You're good for nothing."

Or "Nothing matters."

Besides, if there's nothing, then what are those colors in the background?

just the artists visual representation.

in "nothing" not even color exists.

not even darkness.

its unfathomable to the human mind. the artist just represents it as something "plain and formless"

Originally posted by King Kandy
Mr. M, YOu do realize that when people refer to "Nothing" or "Oblivion", it's not always a literal void?

Like when you say "You're good for nothing."

Or "Nothing matters."

K come on, you kidding right?

Genis and Entropy destroyed the Multiverse and all that was left was Nothingness.

Stated and visually depicted through out the issue, I posted 4 scans.

Genis, Entropy, Rick and Epiphany were NOT speaking in metaphoric phrases or even figuratively,

they were speaking in plain english. (Re-Read the scans or the issue itself)

Genis said,

"I could have let you face Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

Everything went to Nothingness.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Besides, if there's nothing, then what are those colors in the background?

I think this poster answered that well, no need to add to it:

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
just the artists visual representation.

in "nothing" not even color exists.

not even darkness.

its unfathomable to the human mind.

the artist just represents it as something "plain and formless"

Where's the pre and post Retconned Brothers at?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Where's the pre and post Retconned Brothers at?

You mean scans or in Comics?

Pre-retcon Brothers don't exist anymore in Marvel

Post-retcon Brothers are Two Megaverses as you know, that's it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
You mean scans or in Comics?

Pre-retcon Brothers don't exist anymore in Marvel

Post-retcon Brothers are Two Megaverses as you know, that's it.

Originally posted by Mr Master
"I could have let you face [B]Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

Everything went to Nothingness.[/B]

Even if everything went into Oblivions realm (Not Entropies), THAT particular quote seems to be more like "I saved you from death".

considering that the oblivion in question wasn't capitalized, i'm inclined to agree with KK. very tricky masters.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Neither does Pre-retcin Beyonder and Molcule man.

Difference is, Beyonder and MM were Canon.

The Brothers, were not.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
So in the Infinity Gauntlet tier?

I'd say so.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Oblivion can mean "The Oblivion of Death"...

Even if everything went into Oblivions realm (Not Entropies), THAT particular quote seems to be more like "I saved you from death".

"Death?"

When Reality is erased,

it becomes part of Oblivion's Realm (All Nothingness everywhere)

"I could have let you face Oblivion with the rest of the Microverse"

Is pretty cut and dry but,

As you wish.

Originally posted by manorastroman
considering that the oblivion in question wasn't capitalized, i'm inclined to agree with KK.

Again:

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oblivion is the embodiment of Nothingness

"DO you hear it? ... All the Nothing? ... so Peaceful."

Originally posted by manorastroman
very tricky masters.

Please Read Captain Marvel #6 ... 🙂

That will be all.

that's your idea of proof? oblivion is the embodiment of nothing, and captain marvel said the word nothingness? come on now.

Originally posted by manorastroman
that's your idea of proof? oblivion is the embodiment of nothing,

and captain marvel said the word nothingness?

come on now.

Genis said the word "Nothing" ...

because he was surrounded by NOTHINGNESS!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Oblivion is the embodiment of Nothingness

"DO you hear it? ... All the Nothing? ... so Peaceful."

Again,

Read Captain Marvel #6,

then come back and discuss it with me,

but if you're only going to spam with unsounded and proofless contradiction,

I'll respectfully ask you not to do so. 🙂

Thanx.

This may help clarify some stuff. I know it's a bio but still:

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This may help clarify some stuff. I know it's a bio but still:

That's lame.