Therefore, Weiss cannot defeat Sephiroth or that statement would be false
Strength isn't the only thing involved in fighting. Cloud is far weaker than Sephiroth, and he still beat Sephiroth. That doesn't change the fact that Sephiroth is stronger than Cloud though, just as Weiss beating Sephiroth wouldn't mean Weiss is stronger.
According to the (senile) creators of FF7
Do you even know the meaning of the word senile?
and to the other people who still think omega wiess controls the entire life stream, doesn't Sephiroth control the negative life stream thus wiess cannot truly control all of the life stream. which means that shephiroth has control of the neg life-stream and a jenovian body not to mention he can teleport and has masamune only the greatest weapon ever,and think of it this way sephiroth owns ass without having an official overdrive in any game (not sure since i never played dissidia) so to all people who think wiess is strong well sephiroth is amazingly strong to all those who fought him in kh1 he is damn awesome. and just to be clear if sephiroth really wants to win i think he will find a way to infect omega wiess with geostigma.
and to the other people who still think omega wiess controls the entire life stream, doesn't Sephiroth control the negative life stream thus wiess cannot truly control all of the life stream.
There is no negative lifestream post Advent Children. With both at their peaks, Omega Weiss controls the pure lifestream in it's entirety as there is no more negative one, and Sephiroth gets the negative lifestream at it's peak. Sephiroth has the advantage due to Jenova cells and his will, but to say it's impossible for Weiss to win is absurd. Cloud is infinitesimally weaker than Omega Weiss and he defeated AC Sephiroth.
Originally posted by fascistcrusader
There is no negative lifestream post Advent Children. With both at their peaks, Omega Weiss controls the pure lifestream in it's entirety as there is no more negative one, and Sephiroth gets the negative lifestream at it's peak. Sephiroth has the advantage due to Jenova cells and his will, but to say it's impossible for Weiss to win is absurd. Cloud is infinitesimally weaker than Omega Weiss and he defeated AC Sephiroth.
You do know the whole purpose of AC was for Sephiroth to mess with cloud and let him know he cannot be killed. The negative lifestream if a form of the infected lifestream meaning he can menefest into any form of life. And before you say "He can only manefest through jenova cells." your wrong because in the Final Fantasy 7 book and in Final Fantasy 7 Comentaries it even said just as i stated. The entire point of AC was for him to tell cloud he cannot simply be killed.
You just proved to me that you've never read any FF VII related material in your life. All of the compilation materials mentioning Sephiroth's return in Advent Children confirm that he needs Jenova cells to come back. If he could manifest any time he wanted to there would be no need for Kadaj and pals.
And Sephiroth's ultimate goal in AC is not to show Cloud anything, it's still to attain godhood. He wanted to make Cloud suffer before he died, but this was simply a step on his way to controlling the lifestream through Geostigma and his Negative Lifestream. Go watch ACC and then actually read the Ultimanias and Complete Guides.
Ok, first off im only telling you what the Final Fantasy 7 Comentaries said. Which were after all made by the creaters of Final Fantasy. Also the book i read titled Final Fantasy 7 The Complete Story even had the Square Enix logo on it. The entire point was for Sephiroth to mess with Cloud. Like i said, go to Ebay type in "Final Fantasy 7 Comentaries" it covers all three games and the movie. Just watch that, Its even titled by Square Enix.
There is no official guide with that title. If there actually is a guide by that name it's a fake. The only official guide books are the FF VII Ultimania Omega, The Advent Children Reunion Files, The FF VII 10th anniversary Ultimania, and the Crisis Core Complete Guide. All of these books are Japanese only, except the Reunion Files which does feature some English.
All of these were written with content solely from the creators of the games, they are literally the bibles of the series. You should read the translations of them at thelifestream.net and watch Advent Children Complete if you haven't yet, that'll fill you in on a lot of FF VII info.
Alright maybe what you say is true, but it does have the Square Enix logo on it, and one is a movie. But what im trying to say is that after Kadaj summoned Sephiroth he no longer needed to use Jenova cells to manefest because Jenova was in the lifestream. But the movie kind of just left us hanging so its all controversial. Il look into the guide and the movie i have to see if it's legit. (If i find a website where its at il post it on here.)
Kadaj was made specifically because Sephiroth needed Jenova cells to manifest. The Jenova particles in the lifestream were enough to get into people and allow Sephiroth to cause Geostigma, but to actually return he needed a large concentration of the cells. That's why Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz all desperately wanted their "mother," Sephiroth's will was driving them to find the cells because Sephiroth needed them.
If Sephiroth didn't need the cells there would be no need for his remnants or for him to get Jenova's head from Rufus, he would have just appeared in the beginning of AC.
Ok, but i was also told that after Kadaj summoned him he no longer needed Jenova Cells because Jenova was now fully in the lifestream. But there was some sort of interview i saw with Sqaure Enix (subtitled) that i saw where it said the point of AC was also for Sephiroth to mess with Cloud, will have to search youtube for it. Also saw something about it in Playstation Magazine and GameInformer. But i understand what your saying about Kadaj originally.
Anything FF7 versus Sephiroth equates to "something or someone below Sephiroth versus Sephiroth", IIRC.
Especially Safer Sephiroth, and no, this does not imply he's "safer" to fight against. 😆 In fact, I think it was just a mistranslation/mispronounciation. IIRC it's actually "Seifer" and not "Safer".
Yeah it actually is a mistanslation for Seraph, i looked it up. And no Safer Sephiroth was not his most powerful form as it was incomplete, AC Sephiroth was the most powerful. We could go on forever arguing here because different sources say different things. fascistcrusader what does the guide actually say on Sephiroth because i dont have it. Because if i recall FF7 did say Sephiroth was the strongest character. Yes i do realize Cloud beat him but as someone said here before Cloud doesn't really match up to his power.
The verbatim statement on Sephiroth's strength comes from an interview with Nomura, where he says:
"Kitase said Sephiroth's will and existence are extremely powerful. There is nothing stronger, nothing above him."
This statement is in regards to AC Sephiroth, and it means canonically that nothing can surpass his power. The creators also stated it wouldn't feel right to make a character stronger than Sephiroth in another interview. AC Sephiroth is the most powerful being in the FF VII universe, but that doesn't mean nothing else can achieve similar power, as the statement says there is nothing above him, not nothing equal to him.
The AC Reunion Files confirm that Cloud is outmatched in his fight with Sephiroth, and that Sephiroth isn't even giving his all in the fight, so we do know that it's possible for lesser being to defeat Sephiroth, and given that Omega Weiss is leagues above Cloud he's got a good shot at doing so.