Originally posted by Wolverine2006I'd put him at low-level superhuman strength. I can't recall him ever doing anything too outrageous with his strength. Maybe 5 tonner at best.
How strong is this Midnighter?
Originally posted by bigbranSpider-Man has been unable to KO Wolverine, even after downing him and going all out with all his speed and strength, so Venom should have a tough time of it.
So, you don't think Venom could KO him? Profiled. You don't think Thing could KO him? You don't think classic Iron Man could Ko him?
Midnighter should have a very difficult time KOing Wolverine.
Originally posted by manorastroman
then read the issue. they had to fatally (emphasis on fatally) wound it every two seconds just to keep it down...it still wouldn't die.i just re-read the nxm issues in question, and logan only kills the two i mentioned, both with surprise attacks. he is about to kill another when gladiator busts in and embarasses him thoroughly. and gladiator WAS referring to the x-men as a whole; logan is unconscious in his arms and gladiator is facing the remaining x-men.
actaully logan was still awake and gladeator was talking to him. Logan had killed 3 guys and KO couple others. He was the only x-men besides beast to take out any one.
Originally posted by ShinkuuVenom is quite a lot stronger than Spiderman. He won't have a tough time, because he wouldn't have to worry to much about being stabbed. Venom would manhandle Wolverine.
Spider-Man has been unable to KO Wolverine, even after downing him and going all out with all his speed and strength, so Venom should have a tough time of it.
Originally posted by ShinkuuThing could ko him. I'm talking about KOing, not fighting.
Thing could KO Wolverine, but not in the first hit, and certainly not before Wolverine seriously injures him.
Originally posted by ShinkuuWhat do you think I'm talking about?
When you say "classic" Iron Man do you mean the original Grey Armor? Because I'm pretty sure that version only increased Tony's strength 10 fold, which would only make the suit capable of 2 or 3 tons at best.
Originally posted by ShinkuuNO! The best he has done is hit a dumpster.
And Wolverine's strength is probably pretty close to 2 tons himself.
Originally posted by ShinkuuBecause I want to see where he stands on how durible Wolverine is. If he says none of them can KO him, then he is a proven fanboy. Was I asking you this? NO! So why should you answer it for him?
Why would you even bother asking this question anyway?
Originally posted by ShinkuuHulk jobs to Wolverine is all I heard come out of your mouth.
We all know Wolverine resists Ko from the strongest being on the planet. What more is there to say?
Now, I got a question for you. Do you think that Wolverine could even take one hit from Superman and still be awake?
Originally posted by ShinkuuDid I say he wouldn't?
Midnighter should have a very difficult time KOing Wolverine.
Originally posted by Scoobless
So..... being gay isn't cool? you want all your characters to be straight? why? what difference does it make?
No, that's not what I am saying at all. I know people that are gay, and they are my friends. It's that it just feels a bit too random to be well done, I mean, Midnighter and Apollo? I just can't see it, not to mention it is incredibly creepy.
I would like it if they were just single. It makes way more sense.
Originally posted by Scoobless
Thing [b]has knocked out Wolverine in one hit before.And Wolverine has been knocked out quite a few times over the years in a variety of ways. [/B]
So whats the deal should Wolvreine be able to fight the Hulk or not? People keep saying its PIS, but Wolverine has adamantuim bones and a healing factor, plus hes a martial arts expert. He has fought people like the Hulk on humerous occassions is it all PIS?
no, wolverine didn't take down four guards. he took down the little dinosaur guy (which was an m-body) and the helium guy with sneak attacks. then he was on top of the four armed lady about to strike when gladiator came in and took him down.
i wouldn't press the point so much if i didn't have the issue directly in front of my face.
moreover, i still think midnighter's track record (especially with rage-filled claw-donning scrappers who heal incredibly fast) would give him the majority.
wolverine is still susceptible to pressure points, is he not?
Originally posted by bigbranWolverine is not impossible to KO, just highly resistant. If anyone with some kind of super strength pounds on his head with a car for long enough he will of course be knocked out. The issue is that most people that could knock him out could not easily do it in a fight situation. My question is who will be harder to knock , Midnighter or Wolverine. And I would have to say Midnighter goes down easier.
I'm talking about KOing, not fighting.
Originally posted by bigbranYes, but you need to take into consideration that the dumster is not his best feat. That dumster, according to the research that has been done weighed around 1600 pounds, since it was full. Now you have to note that.
NO! The best he has done is hit a dumpster.
He has never (to my knowledge) shown this.
Wolverine not only lifted it, he threw it.
He threw it with one hand.
He performed this feat without the added strength bonus of his adamantium skeleton.
He did not strain performing this feat.
You act like that 1600 pounds was his limit. If my maximum lifting capacity is 250 pounds that is with all my strength, using both hands. I would not be able to throw that 250 pound weight either. Since Wolverine threw that weight with a single hand I would say he could easily lift more than twice that weight, which could put him at 2 tons.
Originally posted by bigbranBecause your question is pointless as it does not apply to the thread. All of the people you mentioned are a lot stronger than Midnighter.
Because I want to see where he stands on how durible Wolverine is. If he says none of them can KO him, then he is a proven fanboy. Was I asking you this? NO! So why should you answer it for him?.
Originally posted by bigbranThen you aren't paying very much attention to what I said. I never said Wolverine would defeat the Hulk. I said that Wolverine has proved he can resist KO from Hulk level punches. That is a true statment and has nothing to do with who would win between the two of them. And yes Hulk could KO Wolverine, so dont bother trying to twist my words again.
Hulk jobs to Wolverine is all I heard come out of your mouth.
Originally posted by bigbranConsidering people much weaker than Wolverine have stayed awake after being hit by Superman, yes Wolverine could take a Superman punch. Could he take a full power Superman punch? I would say no. But in the nest issue of Wolverine I do believe we see Wolverine getting back up from the Sentry's blows, so who knows?
Now, I got a question for you. Do you think that Wolverine could even take one hit from Superman and still be awake?
Originally posted by Ultraman BaltanThat statment is more than a little offensive. Midnighter's homosexuality is one of the most interesting facets of his character. He breaks the mold of the typical stereotype limp wristed, effeminate gay man. He's a man's man that just happens to like men. I dont understand how you could characterize that as creepy. Furries and necrophiliacs are creepy.
Midnighter actually a pretty interesting hero. The whole gay thing strikes me as a little random and stupid, but still, the character himself is cool.
Originally posted by manorastromanaww cmon wolvie has given the hulk a ride for its money he among the tougest guy in marvel plus if midnighter were to calculate his actions he will jus go besrserk and trash the hell out of midnighter
considering how midnighter handled that werewolf-esque creature in the arc with the GodHead, i think wolverine is losing the majority.and capt it up, gladiator wasn't talking about wolverine when he stated that, he was talking of the x-men in general. and one of the guards wolverine killed was by surprise shot (moreover, it was only a duplicate), the other was just a useless guy made of biohelium.