Originally posted by wannabe
I didn’t point out that the bullet didn’t hit the bones, but the contrary. It’s depicted like these bullets are going right through the spine and the knee cap. Rationalising it the way you do seems pretty forced - passing near the spine, whereas a large hole is drawn where the spine should be; splintering; healing factor “spitting” the bullet out in a gush of blood in the precise moment of the hit and, btw., in precise line of the shot that would channel the bullet THROUGH the knee cap – pleeeaaase!
Lets face it, this particular line of pictures is crap “proof” when it comes to the durability of Wolvie’s skeleton, depicting things that should not be possible due to the adamantium (acknowledging comic exaggeration or not) and yet you use one small detail out of them that happens to support your point of view (even though on could still argue, that one would have to hit the eye in the right angle to make the bullet pass to the brain, and the shooter didn’t manage it etc.), which is rather … unsophisticated. That was Mekrob’s point in the first place, as i understand it.
One bullet goes through Wolverine's neck and while you could argue it went dead center, it also appears to be traveling through the Sternocleidmastoid, which doesn't necessarily mean it had to hit Vertebrae.
The bullet that goes through is torso is ambiguous as the path of entry and the exit wound could easily be viewed as on the right side of Logan's spine. The black mass within the wound could easily be argued to be the spinal column as the exit wound isn't even centered along the crevasse created by the Erector Spinae and Latissimus dorsi that run down the back. The center of the exit wound doesn't line up with where Logan's spine should be or even the center seem of his pants for that matter.
The bullet that hit his kneecap... Once again, if you look at the seems of his pantleg you can get a general idea where the center of the condiles on his knee cap would be, and the entry wound doesn't line up with that. The top mass of the leg takes precedence over the bottom mass by a 2/3 ratio meaning that the knee we're seeing is coming forward, towards the "camera"/audience/reader, yet the bullet's entry wound is hitting the very edge of his knee which means it necessarily could not have hit center mass. From all appearances it looks as though it'd be hitting/grazing the outside top of his Tibia and exiting out the back of his knee.
But... at the end of the day... All that really doesn't really matter as the shooter was using Hollow Cavity bullets which are designed specifically for mass fragmentation... So even if they hit dead center the sheer frag damage caused by the bullets impact on a substance like Adamantium would be about the size of what's displayed on panel if not worse.
What this IS proof of? Well it's proof that "ON PANEL" isn't necessarily a good reason to try and validate that something's going to happen in a forum fight or that it's a substantial fact. Because? You're right.. These artists and writers are not anatomists. They are liable to making mistakes based on innacurate misconceptions about the human anatomy that most people have and when to comes down to it... that's what we have here.
(If "on panel" was all it took to make something exceptable than Wolverine can walk out of a vat of molten steel none the worse for wear so what could Midnighter do to him?)
meh,
You act as if it would be unreasonable for this "weakness" to be pointed out in a comic.... Why?
If it was/is real than it's a weakness based on a very massive seperation of Wolverine's anatomy from a normal persons... You think it's not convenient for something like that to have never been mentioned? Not once in his 30+ year career?
The fact is that if Logan's missing chunks of skull in his head, it probably would have been mentioned at some point by comic, handbook or otherwise. Extensive studies have been given by Marvel in various publications documenting Logan's forearms, his skeleton being bonded has been something discussed and mentioned several times and then proven with no counter evidence, the limitations of his healing factor have been discribed, and his pronounced canines have at least been given credit in passing... it is far more unreasonable to assume that Marvel simply hasn't mentioned such a massive difference in Wolverine's anatomical structure in almost 40 years than it is to assume that 4 people out of the hundreds of people who have handled the character simply made an error in that 40 years.
At any rate, there's evidence supporting both ends of this debate now so anyone who claims this side or that side as a sheer FACT is completely full of shit. To take a strong stance on either end of this debate is an excercise in willful ignorance as in order to fully support one side of this argument you have to completely ignore the evidence of the other. Like taking a checker board for only the red squares, ignoring that there's just as many black ones and that they're just as important....
Right now the only stance I can take on this issue is that.... I DON'T KNOW....
And no one else does either.
So while I'm doubtful Wolverine's missing chunks of his skull in the first place...... Even if he is, I ALSO doubt that Midnighter would be able to exploit such a weakness to squeek out any majority against him... it wouldn't even fall into the degree of common knowledge.
