Originally posted by S.C.U.D DF🙄 So naive.
This thread is funny. Obviously you have not read the bible.Why are so many against the war? This war is NEEDED. We wernt at war 5 year's ago when they attacked us. When they did, If I remember correctly Democrat, Republic and every other party known to man were 100% for kicking some Terrorist Ass.
Now that the media has exploited differnet aspect's of war. Which has not been done in History for Obvious reasons. Everyone is all of a sudden pulling there tail between there leg's and hiding like a b*tch.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Has anyone ever wondered why some Christians pray for evil to happen to those who leave the faith so that they will come back to god?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
How come God doesn't turn the other cheek ?
Originally posted by FeceMan
Contrary to popular belief, YHVH can be very wrathy at times.
Yes... He comes across as a real dickwad at times in the Bible.
However, whenever this happens, we are told that God is either doing the killing himself, or that he is explicitly telling certain people to do it. I don't recall God ever commanding anyone outside of the Bible to go to war. Also, I think (I don't remember for sure) that all the war stories are in the Old Testament, much of which Jesus later assures his followers is wrong.
My basic point is that most of the teachings of the Bible, especially the New Testament, tell us we should love other people no matter what. ie, thou shalt not kill, love your enemies, do to others as you would have them do to you, etc... Jesus is the most important figure in Christianity and I doubt (I haven't read the entire New Testament) that he ever told anyone to hurt another person for any reason.
It's also interesting how S.C.UDFSSSFF or whatever his name is mentions leaders "genociding" their people when genocide is a recurring event in the Bible, but that's another thread completely.
Originally posted by FeceMan
That's not a very nice thing for them to do, and God doesn't honor those prayers.
Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Jesusisalive, and Adarksidejedi beg to differ....
Originally posted by FeceMan
He does. There's just going to come a time when He's sick of the evil in the world and that's going to be it.
Then why does he allow it to escalate so high? You're telling me that God chose to do NOTHING when the Holocaust occured...because I'm pretty damn SURE that the Jews, Christians, and EVEN ATHIESTS prayed that God or some superior force would come down and stop this madness....
yet he didn't..millions and millions of people were tortured and killed before the chaos was stopped.
God has infinite power and authority...he's a pu$$y for not using it !
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Then why does he allow it to escalate so high? You're telling me that God chose to do NOTHING when the Holocaust occured...because I'm pretty damn SURE that the Jews, Christians, and EVEN ATHIESTS prayed that God or some superior force would come down and stop this madness....
There's a difference between divine intervention and "God, please let that man get appendicitis. Amen."
yet he didn't..millions and millions of people were tortured and killed before the chaos was stopped.
God has infinite power and authority...he's a pu$$y for not using it !
Originally posted by FeceMan
Yep. Dispensationalism. And, Christ teaches us to do good and show love, but that does not mean there will not be a time when man will pay for his evils.
Sure. But God probably wants to do that himself. It's not anybody's job to be handing out divine judgement as if they know what God is thinking. Our job, according to the Bible, is to love everyone, even our enemies, as ourselves.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Yes...so what is your point?
My point is that under no circumstances should Christians support any war, unless God jumps out of the sky and specifically commands them to do so. The point of the thread is, why have they gone to war historically just as much as anyone else?
Originally posted by Darth Revan
My point is that under no circumstances should Christians support any war, unless God jumps out of the sky and specifically commands them to do so. The point of the thread is, why have they gone to war historically just as much as anyone else?
Originally posted by Darth Revan
My point is that under no circumstances should Christians support any war, unless God jumps out of the sky and specifically commands them to do so. The point of the thread is, why have they gone to war historically just as much as anyone else?
Originally posted by Nellinator
I'm sure that Jesus would want us to stop the Holocaust and Hitler. Sometimes, when others are being oppressed we need to stop the oppressors out of love for the oppressed, not hatred to the oppressors.
So really, Jesus didn't have any opinoon and you just do what you want when you wna tand say "Jesus said so."
Originally posted by FeceMan
Slow down there.
droolio okay
Originally posted by FeceMan
There's a difference between divine intervention and "God, please let that man get appendicitis. Amen."
This is totally irrelevant to the point. I said I am pretty certain that everyone who was thrown in the Concentration Camps prayed to be released without harm and shown mercy. The majority of their prayers were not answered.
Originally posted by FeceMan
But an end was put to it.
Thanks to the efforts of the United States, Russia, and the remainder of Europe. Why does God take credit for all the good things, but takes no responsbility for all the evils that occur ?
The fact that the Holocaust endured as long as it did, leads me to draw one of two conclusions:
1) God was powerless to stop it, due to either a limit of power he possesses or to the fact that he doesn't exist.
2) God did have the power to stop it, but just sat and watched instead.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Ah, Urizen, be happy that you are likely not to be alive when the events prophesied in the book of Revelation begin.
Is that another threat? I don't worship a god who makes threats... ❌
FYI...those events will never happen 😉