ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros

Originally posted by Q99
Ok. Not *every* moment was a blur, and whatever speed they do anything at it'll be on the screen so of course Max can look at the screen no matter what they're doing.

I'm really baffled how you think this shows Max has lightspeed anything, be it perception or reflexes.

Actually they commented at one point the two moved like a blur when smashing towards metropolis...

Ok, the fight wasnt even recorded all the way through. Max Lord started recording the fight when they made it to the sun so we really dont have any indication on how long it took them to make it there.

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1230180_job29bn/

You see in this second scan where he say "begin recording". They were pretty much already at the sun and I am not seeing anything super speed about the fight. Max Lord looked at the none light speed feat just fine.

http://www.picamatic.com/view/1230181_job39vm/

I know what part you are talking about in the doomsday fight, how fast do you think they were moving then when they were moving in a blur?

You see in this second scan where he say "begin recording". They were pretty much already at the sun and I am not seeing anything super speed about the fight. Max Lord looked at the none light speed feat just fine.

....ok...? I am confused how you think this proves anything.

Or, indeed, how you'd be able to tell what Max can and can't follow when he's watching a screen of a fight between the two characters.

The only thing this proves is Brother Eye can track near-lightspeed fights.

Originally posted by Q99
....ok...? I am confused how you think this proves anything.

Or, indeed, how you'd be able to tell what Max can and can't follow when he's watching a screen of a fight between the two characters.

The only thing this proves is Brother Eye can track near-lightspeed fights.

What it proves is that he didnt start recording the fight until they MADE it to the sun. He started recording when Superman punched Wonder Woman back to earth so whatever happened before that wasnt recorded or added to the time that max lord quoted for the Wonder Woman and Superman fight.

He simply say start recording when Superman is about to punch her back to the planet. 😕

Well, I showed you what Max Lord saw on screen, its up for you to prove that they were moving at super speed during the time max lord visual insite of the fight. Its already pretty much shown that the 2 minutes that was quoted wasnt part of them combating to the sun, so now we just need some evidence proving that they were even fighting in a blur or at super speed.

Originally posted by carver9
What it proves is that he didnt start recording the fight until they MADE it to the sun. He started recording when Superman punched Wonder Woman back to earth so whatever happened before that wasnt recorded or added to the time that max lord quoted for the Wonder Woman and Superman fight.

He simply say start recording when Superman is about to punch her back to the planet. 😕

Well, I showed you what Max Lord saw on screen, its up for you to prove that they were moving at super speed during the time max lord visual insite of the fight. Its already pretty much shown that the 2 minutes that was quoted wasnt part of them combating to the sun, so now we just need some evidence proving that they were even fighting in a blur or at super speed.

I'm... not even sure what you're trying to prove with your argument any more.

Originally posted by Q99
I'm... not even sure what you're trying to prove with your argument any more.

LOL, ok, you said that Superman and Wonder Woman was fighting at light speed because they fought to the sun and back in less than 2 and a half minutes. I'm saying that they didnt fight at light speed because the time that Max Lord quoted didnt include them flying to the sun. It started with Superman punching Wonder Woman to earth.

I am also saying that there was no sign of super speed being used during that fight since it wasnt shown on panel. Everything that we see during the fight is at normal brick mode. So what I am asking you to do is prove that they were fighting at super speed. I can easily say that Hulk has light speed react but me saying it doesnt prove it unless I have something to back it up.

You know the blitz that Superman started his fight off with on earth against Wonder Woman along with ALL of this.... http://www.picamatic.com/view/1230181_job39vm/ it wasnt used for the time max quoted. Look at the last panel and thats when max lord started recording the fight.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, ok, you said that Superman and Wonder Woman was fighting at light speed because they fought to the sun and back in less than 2 and a half minutes. I'm saying that they didnt fight at light speed because the time that Max Lord quoted didnt include them flying to the sun. It started with Superman punching Wonder Woman to earth.

So basically, when he punched her back to Earth, she moved at a speed greater than that of Light?

Yeah, DBZ characters will get hurt/killed by such punches.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
So basically, when he punched her back to Earth, she moved at a speed greater than that of Light?

Yeah, DBZ characters will get hurt/killed by such punches.

Yeah, they would get killed by a punch that sent her back to earth in a weightless environment. Yeah, I can see that happening. 🙄

Wonder Woman didnt even get killed by it and this is the same person that get injured by bullet shots. Goku has been punched through mountains, taking hits that was creating enormous shockwaves around that area, etc.. She wouldnt have even went that far if she had the flight control DBZ characters has.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, they would get killed by a punch that sent her back to earth in a weightless environment. Yeah, I can see that happening. 🙄

Btw, comic speeds- and speeds in a lot of anime like DBZ- don't match up with the way RL speed works.

It is actually impossible to accelerate at or to the speed of light because there is room for *infinite* acceleration before the speed of light due to relatively. Literally infinite.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, ok, you said that Superman and Wonder Woman was fighting at light speed because they fought to the sun and back in less than 2 and a half minutes. I'm saying that they didnt fight at light speed because the time that Max Lord quoted didnt include them flying to the sun. It started with Superman punching Wonder Woman to earth.

And you think being punched from the sun to Earth and then Superman following right behind is particularly slower? 🙂

Originally posted by Q99
Btw, comic speeds- and speeds in a lot of anime like DBZ- don't match up with the way RL speed works.

It is actually impossible to accelerate at or to the speed of light because there is room for *infinite* acceleration before the speed of light due to relatively. Literally infinite.

And you think being punched from the sun to Earth and then Superman following right behind is particularly slower? 🙂

I know its not slow but again, we have people like Vulcan doing similar feats. I never said Superman was slow but that fight wasnt a light speed fight and then it was a mere bull rush at a speed that we dont even know about. It took Superman some time to get back anyway. Wonder Woman was laid out for a bit before he got there.

Then we have Superman admitting during his training with Mongul jr that earths gravity take its toll on his powers.

THEN we have him and flash recent race and flash leaving him in the dust when he hit light speed.

Everything is too clear and you all are missing it. Mcduffie said that Supes can only achieve light speed in space.

Originally posted by NemeBro
His punch is all that made her fly at ftl to Earth, space's lack of air friction only means she cannot be slowed down by the atmosphere, the ftl speed was still all Superman's punch.

I never said it wasnt because Superman is strong as hell, I can see him doing that, its within his power.

His fist would have to have been moving nearly that fast to have sent her flying at that speed.

Velocity x mass nucka.

Originally posted by NemeBro
His fist would have to have been moving nearly that fast to have sent her flying at that speed.

Velocity x mass nucka.

WTF.

Space has weightless gravity, someone with Superman strength could EASILY send someone moving at high velocity. You are acting like we are talking about Spiderman or something.

Hulk could have punched her at a high speed rate if he wanted too.

Originally posted by carver9
WTF.

Space has weightless gravity, someone with Superman strength could EASILY send someone moving at high velocity. You are acting like we are talking about Spiderman or something.

Hulk could have punched her at a high speed rate if he wanted too.

Weightless gravity does not exist, stop throwing the term around.

The fact that it is a vacuum and lacks air is what is important, there is no air friction.

This means that there would be no friction, the speed which she is knocked back would not be increased, rather, it would not decrease due to the lack of air.

Physics mother****er.

Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, they would get killed by a punch that sent her back to earth in a weightless environment. Yeah, I can see that happening. 🙄

Wonder Woman didnt even get killed by it and this is the same person that get injured by bullet shots. Goku has been punched through mountains, taking hits that was creating enormous shockwaves around that area, etc.. She wouldnt have even went that far if she had the flight control DBZ characters has.

Wonder Woman has been hit far harder than DBZ characters ever have, and she's survived with little more than scratches. Heck, she survived that punch of Superman's, you know, the one where he punched her from the Sun, and she left a large crater (and no doubt created a shockwave as you put it).

She's tanked explosions that could destroy cities and more. She's also been punched across countries by Zoom (that punch, by her admission, hurt more than a punch from Superman), and sent across the World; yet, she was able to take it all.

But of course you, being the DBZ fanboi you are, will downplay all of this somehow. You'll say that DBZ characters have been punched at speeds faster than that of light, and that they didn't even flinch, amirite?

Right, because the second a DBZ character is punched hard and sent flying, they are able to recover, amirite?

Originally posted by carver9
WTF.

Space has weightless gravity, someone with Superman strength could EASILY send someone moving at high velocity. You are acting like we are talking about Spiderman or something.

Hulk could have punched her at a high speed rate if he wanted too.

Bull-effing-shit. Stop spewing words out of your posterior.
Might I remind you of something we people like to call the Sun? There was gravity where they were fighting.

Huh.

Weird, did not even catch that.

Yeah, the sun's gravity is, in fact, stronger than that of Earth's.

If someone reminds me of the distance they were from it, I could probably tell you by hao much.

Originally posted by NemeBro
First of all.

Weightless gravity does not exist, stop throwing the term around.

The fact that it is a vacuum and lacks air is what is important, there is no air friction.

This means that there would be no friction, the speed which she is knocked back would not be increased, rather, it would not decrease due to the lack of air.

Physics mother****er.

So you are basically saying that Hulk cant punch Wonder Woman back to earth if he wanted too?

Is that what you are saying?

And when has physics ever been a part of a comic? Hell, if physics was a part of a comic, cities would be destroyed if Superman used his heat vision due to the temperature. If physics was involved, Colossus would one punch everyone into space.

Hulk footstep would destoy the surrounding area.

Stop using physics for a comic.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Wonder Woman has been hit far harder than DBZ characters ever have, and she's survived with little more than scratches. Heck, she survived that punch of Superman's, you know, the one where he punched her from the Sun, and she left a large crater (and no doubt created a shockwave as you put it).

She's tanked explosions that could destroy cities and more. She's also been punched across countries by Zoom (that punch, by her admission, hurt more than a punch from Superman), and sent across the World; yet, she was able to take it all.

But of course you, being the DBZ fanboi you are, will downplay all of this somehow. You'll say that DBZ characters have been punched at speeds faster than that of light, and that they didn't even flinch, amirite?

Right, because the second a DBZ character is punched hard and sent flying, they are able to recover, amirite?

Bull-effing-shit. Stop spewing words out of your posterior.
Might I remind you of something we people like to call the Sun? There was gravity where they were fighting.

They are able to recover much faster than Wonder Woman. I know about everything that you mentioned, I never said Wonder Woman was weak, I said that she doesnt possess Goku durability and she doesnt.

The only reason Wonder Woman has been hit so far is because she doesnt have control of her flight like DBZ characters does. Its just that simple. Frieza tossed Goku cloud height with just a flinch of his tail but what does that prove, nothing. I'm going by punching power and from what I have seen, DBZ punching power is much more destructive.

Show me her tanking a city destroying blast.