Originally posted by Kento
😮 Okay the part of him training in it was filler...And the part with Yamcha going into it and all that. But him asking Dr. Briefs to wasn't so he would have trained in it.
Exactly.
Originally posted by Kento
😮 Okay the part of him training in it was filler...And the part with Yamcha going into it and all that. But him asking Dr. Briefs to wasn't so he would have trained in it.
Exactly.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
Exactly.
And this means that Vegeta was walking around, not lifting, but walking around and his body was weighing 198 tons, which is MUCH more difficult than lifting something. Then by the end of his training, he was walking around in that room without even breaking a sweat.
Nice scans kirikaze.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman made it to the sun on a time that was not given so we dont know how long it took him to make it to the sun. Even though he made it, I dont doubt that he could make it in an environment like space because again, there is nothing holding his speed back.We have All Star Superman (stronger than mainstream Superman) building a device to help him walk on a planet that had the gravity of 10 times earths gravity and then we have Superman under his own admission stating that earth gravity take its toll on his powers THEN we have Superman (even though he was weakened) straining on a planet with 100 times earths gravity whereas an injured and overly trained Vegeta was walking around just fine in 300 times earth gravity (black hair at that).
Answer me this carver; how long does light takes to get from the Earth to the Sun?
Also, while you're at it, how about explaining these:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2467/supermanescapesblackhol.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/scqhhf.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/i55eyo.jpg
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Answer me this carver; how long does light takes to get from the Earth to the Sun?Also, while you're at it, how about explaining these:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2467/supermanescapesblackhol.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/scqhhf.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/i55eyo.jpg
I'm going to start this off by saying, Superman was amped for that feat you just put up.
I want you to fast forward this to 4 min and 30 sec and I want you to be honest with yourself. I know it feels good to defend your character because you like him but I truly want you to answer this question from looking at what you see, not how you feel about your character.
Do you HONESTLY believe that Superman can keep up with two people that is fighting like this? Also, is there ANYTHING showing that Superman can even fight at speeds like this or do the things that they are doing at that speed of pace. Start 4 min and 30 sec or you can look at the entire thing if you want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqsSQtyVMV4&feature=related
My grandmother is almost BLIND and she can tell the difference between the speed with DBZ character vs Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm going to start this off by saying, Superman was amped for that feat you just put up.
You got any proof of this?
Originally posted by carver9
[B]I want you to fast forward this to 4 min and 30 sec and I want you to be honest with yourself. I know it feels good to defend your character because you like him but I truly want you to answer this question from looking at what you see, not how you feel about your character.Do you HONESTLY believe that Superman can keep up with two people that is fighting like this? Also, is there ANYTHING showing that Superman can even fight at speeds like this or do the things that they are doing at that speed of pace. Start 4 min and 30 sec or you can look at the entire thing if you want.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqsSQtyVMV4&feature=related
My grandmother is almost BLIND and she can tell the difference between the speed with DBZ character vs Superman.
😆
You do realize that the person who posted that video sped up the fight, right? 😐
Also, here's a pic of Superman doing something similar:
http://img385.imageshack.us/i/combatspeedts0.jpg/
Also, I see you didn't answer my question. How long does light takes to get from the Earth to the Sun?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Answer me this carver; how long does light takes to get from the Earth to the Sun?Also, while you're at it, how about explaining these:
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2467/supermanescapesblackhol.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/scqhhf.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/i55eyo.jpg
You see this super speed fight that was based directly from a comic (Superman/Batman) comic. Look at all of that super speed during this fight that was illustrated from the comic itself.
😛
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
You got any proof of this?😆
You do realize that the person who posted that video sped up the fight, right? 😐
Also, here's a pic of Superman doing something similar:
http://img385.imageshack.us/i/combatspeedts0.jpg/
Also, I see you didn't answer my question. How long does light takes to get from the Earth to the Sun?
LOL, so him 3 punching someone is similar. Also, read the comic, Superman was amped for that feat and it still took him some time to even achieve that light speed feat during his amp.
He didnt speed up anything, the fight happened just like you seen it. I can easily post the fight scene again but from a different source if you want.
It takes light 8 minutes to make it to the sun but what was the point of the question? Its not a combat speed feat of him space flying, if anything its a bull rush that has no meaning here.
Originally posted by carver9
You see this super speed fight that was based directly from a comic (Superman/Batman) comic. Look at all of that super speed during this fight that was illustrated from the comic itself.😛
People might say it's non-canon but no matter what they said, I never seen any of Superman cartoon where Superman punches as fast as Goku. Or maybe they can't describe how Superman fight?
And even though Superman moves FTL within the earth atmosphere, Mutenroshi can shoot a kamehameha at the same speed while people like Goku and others can shoot and react against something much faster.
Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
People might say it's non-canon but no matter what they said, I never seen any of Superman cartoon where Superman punches as fast as Goku. Or maybe they can't describe how Superman fight?And even though Superman moves FTL within the earth atmosphere, Mutenroshi can shoot a kamehameha at the same speed while people like Goku and others can shoot and react against something much faster.
They might do say that but that fight came directly from the comic. Hell, that entire story came from the comic.
Originally posted by carver9
LOL, so him 3 punching someone is similar. Also, read the comic, Superman was amped for that feat and it still took him some time to even achieve that light speed feat during his amp.
Whether than tell me to read the comic, can't you just post where it was stated?
Originally posted by carver9
[B]He didnt speed up anything, the fight happened just like you seen it. I can easily post the fight scene again but from a different source if you want.
Yes, he did speed up the fight. There's even posters under there saying it was sped up. So yeah, post from a different source.
Originally posted by carver9
[B]It takes light 8 minutes to make it to the sun but what was the point of the question? Its not a combat speed feat of him space flying, if anything its a bull rush that has no meaning here.
Flying speed can be used in combat. I think you admitted this yourself.
Now explain why would it take Max 8 minutes to take out a device to track down Superman and Wonder Woman?
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Whether than tell me to read the comic, can't you just post where it was stated?Yes, he did speed up the fight. There's even posters under there saying it was sped up. So yeah, post from a different source.
Flying speed can be used in combat. I think you admitted this yourself.
Now explain why would it take Max 8 minutes to take out a device to track down Superman and Wonder Woman?
I dont have a scanner, thats why I tell you to just read the comic.
Here is the same thing that you seen before except there is talking involved between the fights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEzLu_cPJw&feature=related
Start at 5 min and 8 sec.
I agree, flying speed can be used during combat but in a situation involving Z fighters and combat speed, a mere bull rush isnt going to do anything to them, let alone hit them. Bull rush doesnt equal combat speed.
Max Lord might had to go look for the device which could have been in another room, put in a password that might had to down load, then walk up to brother eye, load that....etc... etc... we really dont know HOW long it took max, all of it is an assumption.
Originally posted by carver9
I dont have a scanner, thats why I tell you to just read the comic.Here is the same thing that you seen before except there is talking involved between the fights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NEzLu_cPJw&feature=related
Start at 5 min and 8 sec.
I agree, flying speed can be used during combat but in a situation involving Z fighters and combat speed, a mere bull rush isnt going to do anything to them, let alone hit them. Bull rush doesnt equal combat speed.
Max Lord might had to go look for the device which could have been in another room, put in a password that might had to down load, then walk up to brother eye, load that....etc... etc... we really dont know HOW long it took max, all of it is an assumption.
Well at least tell me the issue number.
If the Z fighters don't have the time to react to someone flying at them at lightspeed, what makes you think it won't work?
All that sounds like an assumption like you said and even if that was possible, I doubt it would take 8 minutes to do. If that did happen, I'm pretty sure there would be something that suggest it did but there isn't, thus the only possible conclusion we can go by is that he had it with him the whole time.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Well at least tell me the issue number.If the Z fighters don't have the time to react to someone flying at them at lightspeed, what makes you think it won't work?
All that sounds like an assumption like you said and even if that was possible, I doubt it would take 8 minutes to do. If that did happen, I'm pretty sure there would be something that suggest it did but there isn't, thus the only possible conclusion we can go by is that he had it with him the whole time.
I'll find the book and try to get that # for you.
So you are saying that Superman can fly faster than the blast that Goku have slapped out of the air with ease and again, show me Superman blitzing at the speed of light on a place with gravity.
I know, all of it is an assumption, we really dont know how fast it took him to get there and prove that he had the device on him the entire time and even if he did, it still doesnt change the fact that the fight was recorded when Superman punched Wonder Woman back to earth.
Originally posted by carver9
Have a question BroSmash. What if Superman bullrush at Goku but during mid bullrush, Goku just winks out and disappear from the battlefield. He is moving so fast that he is completely invisible. What is Superman going to do then?
Well seeing how he is able to react to the Flash, I don't see why Superman can't just track him and catch him. Afterall, the guy does have super senses.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
Well seeing how he is able to react to the Flash, I don't see why Superman can't just track him and catch him. Afterall, the guy does have super senses.
Superman sneak attack flash just like every other person that has fought flash. Grogg has tagged flash, Nightwing, etc... not good to use flash as a reference.
Now, in that same comic that you love to bring up, Wonder Woman disappeared from Superman during combat and Superman was helpless and got his ears SMASHED by Wonder Woman.
He isnt keeping up with a "Z" fighter.
Originally posted by carver9
I'll find the book and try to get that # for you.So you are saying that Superman can fly faster than the blast that Goku have slapped out of the air with ease and again, show me Superman blitzing at the speed of light on a place with gravity.
I know, all of it is an assumption, we really dont know how fast it took him to get there and prove that he had the device on him the entire time and even if he did, it still doesnt change the fact that the fight was recorded when Superman punched Wonder Woman back to earth.
First, I still have not seen where this "gravity" thing is relevent.
Sure, Max didn't record the fight until after they made it to the sun but that doesn't mean the flight to the sun took more than 8 minutes.
Also, it's pretty simple to prove. Look, here's where Max is when Superman first started flying:
http://img242.imageshack.us/i/job17mx.jpg/
Now look when both Superman and Wonder Woman come back:
http://img264.imageshack.us/i/job131ps.jpg/
Notice that Max is standing in the same spot from where they first took off. If he really did go to a different room, then there's really no reason for him to come back to that area.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman sneak attack flash just like every other person that has fought flash. Grogg has tagged flash, Nightwing, etc... not good to use flash as a reference.Now, in that same comic that you love to bring up, Wonder Woman disappeared from Superman during combat and Superman was helpless and got his ears SMASHED by Wonder Woman.
He isnt keeping up with a "Z" fighter.
But have they all done it while Flash was moving, though?
I don't necessarily agree with that part of the fight but Wonder Woman herself is pretty close to Superman in some categories so if she did manage to do some damage to him, it's no surprise.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
But have they all done it while Flash was moving, though?I don't necessarily agree with that part of the fight but Wonder Woman herself is pretty close to Superman in some categories so if she did manage to do some damage to him, it's no surprise.
Yes, I showed you scans of them doing it while flash was moving. Hell, the nightwing showing was much more impressive than what Superman did.
Then if you actually look at Superman and Flash race, Flash left Superman in the DUST when he went light speed.
Its not the damage that I am talking about with the Wonder Woman scene, I'm talking about the fact that Wonder Woman winked out on him and he was helpless to it. He had no way of defending himself.
Originally posted by Bro SMASH
First, I still have not seen where this "gravity" thing is relevent.Sure, Max didn't record the fight until after they made it to the sun but that doesn't mean the flight to the sun took more than 8 minutes.
Also, it's pretty simple to prove. Look, here's where Max is when Superman first started flying:
http://img242.imageshack.us/i/job17mx.jpg/
Now look when both Superman and Wonder Woman come back:
http://img264.imageshack.us/i/job131ps.jpg/
Notice that Max is standing in the same spot from where they first took off. If he really did go to a different room, then there's really no reason for him to come back to that area.
All of this is pointless and you are picking straws.
