Originally posted by marwash22
The same can be said about Superman being knocked through buildings, mountains, etc. and coming out unscathed.My comment is more inference than anything. There was the time he fought against Piccolo, but I'm not counting that 'cause he was a kid.
My point is based on seeing Gohan get his arm broken while at a higher level of strength than Goku; the same has happened to vegeta while fighting the androids. The only reason Goku is never seen with a broken bone, is due to never being in those type of situations. Based on it happening to people of his same race (and sometimes of a higher power), it's perfectly reasonable to believe that his bones can easily be broken with enough force.
Without the use of Kryptonite, i don't recall anyone ever breaking Superman's bones. Also, on a regenerative level, if Goku and Superman traded blows long enough, Goku would succumb to pain and fatigue much sooner than Superman.
Zod broke Supermans Jaw with a blitz. He one shotted him. He has also had NUMEROUS of black eyes, busted lip, etc... Superman has been damaged numerous of times.
Look at how long DBZ characters are fighting and look what they go through, of course during time they are going to get fatigued. They are constantly being NUKED and punched throughout the fight that last for decades. Superman has NEVER been in a fight as long as Goku or any other DBZ character has and he has never been through the things that DBZ characters go through during combat.
When has Superman been punched through a mountain. The only time I can remember it happening, he got koed.
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Originally posted by Endless Mike
I should point out that, contrary to claims, even by the end of the manga normal humans are still capable of seeing the fights for the most of the time, they only lose track of their movements over short bursts.
Wrong, and if you are referring to Hercule and the buu fight, they actually showed what Hercule saw when Goku was fighting buu, nothing but a blur. I guess that is why Hercule was cheering while kid buu was thrashing Goku, he couldnt tell WHAT was going on.
Originally posted by carver9You do realize how stupid it is to use an example of another KRYPTONIAN doing Superman damage, to justify your point about the prospect of a non-KRYPTONIAN doing the same damage.
Zod broke Supermans Jaw with a blitz. He one shotted him. He has also had NUMEROUS of black eyes, busted lip, etc... Superman has been damaged numerous of times.
Show me a scan of someone who isnt a Kryptonian or created by Krptonians or using Kryptonite, doing any real damage to Superman. Also, Superman's fights don't last forever because...
One: Superman doesnt fight in Manga/Anime. Manga/Anime fights traditionally last hours upon hours.
Two: There is no one (who isn't kryptonian) that can brawl with Superman for a long period of time and not die from exhaustion as a result.
lmao! So, by your estimation... being knocked through a building with reinforced steal supports, wouldn't hurt nearly as bad as being knocked through a mountain?
Dude, are you in denial or are you just this hardcore of DBZ fan? Yu Yu Hakusho is my all time favorite; i love the characters, but I'm not about sit here and pretend they'd stand a chance against Superman.
Originally posted by marwash22
You do realize how stupid it is to use an example of another KRYPTONIAN doing Superman damage, to justify your point about the prospect of a non-KRYPTONIAN doing the same damage.Show me a scan of someone who isnt a Kryptonian or created by Krptonians or using Kryptonite, doing any real damage to Superman. Also, Superman's fights don't last forever because...
One: Superman doesnt fight in Manga/Anime. Manga/Anime fights traditionally last hours upon hours.
Two: There is no one (who isn't kryptonian) that can brawl with Superman for a long period of time and not die from exhaustion as a result.
lmao! So, by your estimation... being knocked through a building with reinforced steal supports, wouldn't hurt nearly as bad as being knocked through a mountain?
Dude, are you in denial or are you just this hardcore of DBZ fan? Yu Yu Hakusho is my all time favorite; i love the characters, but I'm not about sit here and pretend they'd stand a chance against Superman.
Titus busted him across the face with a mace and gave him a black eye. Kalibak hit him across the face with a mace and gave him a black eye and knocked him out. Despero clawed him across the face cutting him. Grundy busted him up. Captain Marvel cut his face up. Darkseid busted his face up adn put gashes across his face. The general gave him a black eye. The list goes on.
I'm a hard core Thor fan and would give him a majority over anyone except Goku. Look at all of the Thor vs threads and see who I always vote for. My second fave is Gladiator, I put him above almost anyone physically and have feats backing my claim but I also think Goku (black hair) would ANNIHILATE him without breaking a sweat.
I guess I'm not the only one that believes that Goku would STOMP Superman since it was published for the world to see in a Wizard magazine TWICE. Hell, Superman couldnt even touch black hair Goku during combat 'just like I am saying that he wont on this battle board'.
Originally posted by carver9
I never said Goku never got his ass whipped. During all of that beating he still didnt suffer any physical damage.
At the beginning of Volume 27, Goku's got one eye half open along with scraps on his face/body and blooding running from his mouth and staggers when he lands on the ground before Freeza headbutts him. He's even shown wobbling right before Freeza lands and starts yelling at him. So in short, pull your head out of your ass.
Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Bullshit.At the beginning of Volume 27, Goku's got one eye half open along with scraps on his face/body and blooding running from his mouth and staggers when he lands on the ground before Freeza headbutts him on page 8. He's even shown wobbling right before Freeza lands and starts yelling at him. So in short, pull your head out of your ass.
Like I said before but you all just dont understand (for some strange reason), I NEVER SAID GOKU NEVER GOT HIS ASS WHIPPED, I SAID HE NEVER SUFFERED ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE. Frieza and Goku was fighting for a long time and during all of that beating that Goku got, I'm pretty sure he was unable to keep his eyes opened from passing out. Hell, he DID pass out, more than once.
He still didnt suffer any physical damage, he just got ANNIHILATED by someone that was mentioned at least 3 times as a universal threat. 😕
Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Bullshit.At the beginning of Volume 27, Goku's got one eye half open along with scraps on his face/body and blooding running from his mouth and staggers when he lands on the ground before Freeza headbutts him. He's even shown wobbling right before Freeza lands and starts yelling at him. So in short, pull your head out of your ass.
Have a question for ya. If you think Superman is sooooo much faster than Goku or since you think that Superman can keep up with Goku, why did Superman admit that Shadow Dragon, someone who is MUCH slower than light, is faster than him?
When you answer that, why did the same person that Superman admitted was faster than him, why did lady shiva fill in his shoes to beat a character that was too fast for Superman?
You do know who Lady Shiva is right? Watch this, here is another feat that is going to be thrown out of the window as PIS. LOL
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Originally posted by carver9
Like I said before but you all just dont understand (for some strange reason), I NEVER SAID GOKU NEVER GOT HIS ASS WHIPPED, I SAID HE NEVER SUFFERED ANY PHYSICAL DAMAGE. Frieza and Goku was fighting for a long time and during all of that beating that Goku got, I'm pretty sure he was unable to keep his eyes opened from passing out. Hell, he DID pass out, more than once.He still didnt suffer any physical damage, he just got ANNIHILATED by someone that was mentioned at least 3 times as a universal threat. 😕
You really, really suck at this debating thing, dude.
Originally posted by Kal-El Summers
Cuts, scraps, bleeding out of the mouth, staggering, and wobbling are all examples of guess what? PHYSICAL DAMAGE!You really, really suck at this debating thing, dude.
Cut? I am pretty sure that was dirt. Bleeding out of the mouth, I agree with, internal damage, nothing major or no real damage at all.
Staggering and Wobbling isnt physical damage. Look at everything Goku went through, I never said the guy was Galactus. Hell, even Galactus fell to his knees after fighting Tyrant and Tenebrous and Aegis. If you are getting your ass whipped, it can happen to anyone.
Goku withstood the most beating out of anyone in a single comic and was still on his wobbly feat. He got nuked, bit** slapped and punched at ridiculous speed, had a mountain thrown on him, etc... and still suffered no damage, especially not a black eye or broken bones.
The question has nothing to do with what we were talking about, so no. Stop trying to change the subject. You can go to Mangafox and read the Freeza fight there and see that *gasp* Freeza did some significant damage to Goku during their fight and all your bluster about Goku never taking any physical damage after the Saiyan saga is pure bullshit.
