ANIME Fighters VS AMERICAN Superheros

Originally posted by Kento
Because Vegeta trains harder, and he constantly trains in high gravity. I wouldn't be surprised if over the 7 years of peace he hadn't went higher than 300x Earth's gravity. Gokou's training regime has always been a bit different than Vegeta's also.

But even though Vegeta (Black hair) trained in 300 times earth gravity, I am pretty sure that super sayain Goku can do the same thing but in higher gravity. Thats one thing that me and you disagree on, the higher your power level, the higher your durability, strength, and speed will be. I'm pretty sure that super saiyan Vegeta can walk in 300 times earth gravity without even filling it, along with Goku.

Originally posted by carver9
But even though Vegeta (Black hair) trained in 300 times earth gravity, I am pretty sure that super sayain Goku can do the same thing but in higher gravity. Thats one thing that me and you disagree on, the higher your power level, the higher your durability, strength, and speed will be. I'm pretty sure that super saiyan Vegeta can walk in 300 times earth gravity without even filling it, along with Goku.

Originally posted by Kento
That's not the point though. Trunks can walk around in 100x Earth gravity without being SSJ, albeit it's hard to do. But I don't think Chibi Trunks in base form is physically stronger than saiyan saga Gokou just more powerful.

Now this is crazy. So you dont believe that the higher your power is, the stronger you are even though this has been proven SOOOOO many times.

Originally posted by carver9
Now this is crazy. So you dont believe that the higher your power is, the stronger you are even though this has been proven SOOOOO many times.

Originally posted by Kento
😬 Not really it hasn't. Sure if you get more power you are stronger than you were but doesn't mean kid Gohan is stronger than Kid Gokou even though Gohan is the more powerful one. However Chibi Trunks should be stronger than Goten by a large margin but they are the same in power just about. Which is all that really matters in DBZ. The power level.

I dont know who chibi trunks is.

😕 Kid Gohun IS stronger than kid Goku. Didnt kid Gohun injure Raditz? Do you think Kid Goku can injure or even register on raditz radar?

Raditz would TANK a full Kameha OR a head bunt from Kid Goku without even moving with a smile on his face.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont know who chibi trunks is.

😕 Kid Gohun IS stronger than kid Goku. Didnt kid Gohun injure Raditz? Do you think Kid Goku can injure or even register on raditz radar?

Raditz would TANK a full Kameha OR a head bunt from Kid Goku without even moving with a smile on his face.

Which has to do with their power....You really believe that physically Gohan, who did nothing at all buy cry, and never lift anything heavier than his hat, was stronger than Gokou who was pushing 10 or so ton rocks easily before getting a strength upgrade by Roshi's training?

Originally posted by Kento
😆 Kid Trunks. Buu Saga.

Which has to do with their power....You really believe that physically Gohan, who did nothing at all buy cry, and never lift anything heavier than his hat, was stronger than Gokou who was pushing 10 or so ton rocks easily before getting a strength upgrade by Roshi's training?

Kid Gohan's PL during Raditz saga is unclear. He can be very strong that he could reach 1000+ PL or his PL become 1. When he was enraged (With 1000+ PL), he managed to injure Raditz. Something impossible for Kid Goku.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
When he was enraged (With 1000+ PL), he managed to injure Raditz. Something impossible for Kid Goku.

Originally posted by Kento
Which, has to do with the fact he was more powerful. Not that he was physically stronger. There isn't anything to suggest that Enraged Kid Gohan (before Piccolo's Training) would be able to push the boulder Gokou did. Roshi had a higher power level than Gokou at the time and couldn't push the boulder either. And Krillen was his equal in power but he couldn't push the boulder.

Krillin or Roshi was never equal to Goku power level wise and Gohun physically head bunted raditz and injured him. He amped himself physically to accomplish that feat. There were no sign or KI when his head hit raditz.

Originally posted by carver9
Krillin or Roshi was never equal to Goku power level wise and Gohun physically head bunted raditz and injured him. He amped himself physically to accomplish that feat. There were no sign or KI when his head hit raditz.

Originally posted by Kento
Roshi's power level was much higher than Gokou's when Gokou went to train with him.....It wasn't until after the first tournament shown that Gokou surpasses him in power level. And Krillen was always right behind Gokou until around the same time...

When did Roshi try to pull the boulder? Did he do it when he was bulked up? If Roshi was so much stronger than Goku, why did he physically beat him during the tournament?

Originally posted by carver9
When did Roshi try to pull the boulder? Did he do it when he was bulked up? If Roshi was so much stronger than Goku, why did he physically beat him during the tournament?

I meant to say if roshi was so much weaker than Goku, why did he beat Goku during the Tournament physically?

Originally posted by carver9
When did Roshi try to pull the boulder? Did he do it when he was bulked up? If Roshi was so much stronger than Goku, why did he physically beat him during the tournament?

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v03/c007/9.html

But Roshi was faster, and had a higher power level. Power Level doesn't = physical strength is higher. And physical strength has nothing to do with their durability either.

Goku is alot fastet than Superman in actual fights. For example, even kid Goku could dodge lightning bolts. Superman at best is slightly above Frieza leve

Originally posted by Kento
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v03/c007/7.html

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/dragon_ball/v03/c007/9.html

But Roshi was faster, and had a higher power level. Power Level doesn't = physical strength is higher. And physical strength has nothing to do with their durability either.

He wasnt buffed up though and I think the physical stats vs power level start happening during the Z saga. Dragonball really wasnt that focused on power levels like DBZ was. People drinking from the water, POPO training Goku how to be faster than lightning, etc... DBZ is when everything basically start forming around power levels.

Originally posted by carver9
He wasnt buffed up though and I think the physical stats vs power level start happening during the Z saga. Dragonball really wasnt that focused on power levels like DBZ was. People drinking from the water, POPO training Goku how to be faster than lightning, etc... DBZ is when everything basically start forming around power levels.

And being more powerful than said person still doesn't mean they are stronger than said person. There isn't really any proof at all. Just like how Freeza is probably one of the most durable people in DBZ in the fact he can take a planet exploding, while a stronger Gokou would have been killed in the explosion. And Freeza was near death when it exploded, and Gokou was all but fine.

Originally posted by Kento
He only buffs up for Kamehameha cause he's focusing all his power to do the blast.....

And being more powerful than said person still doesn't mean they are stronger than said person. There isn't really any proof at all. Just like how Freeza is probably one of the most durable people in DBZ in the fact he can take a planet exploding, while a stronger Gokou would have been killed in the explosion. And Freeza was near death when it exploded, and Gokou was all but fine.

What are you talking about, it wasnt the planetary blast that hurt frieza, it was Goku blast that took him out. Then if you add to the fact that frieza father stated that frieza should be able to tank said blast, then that also mean that frieza would have been ok. If it wasnt Goku blast that took frieza out or damaged him, dont you think Frieza would have been on Goku tail during the time he was looking for a ship?

First thing, there is no proof at all that Goku could not tank a planet destroyong blast. I hope you are not referring to the Cell fight since it is pretty clear that Cell blast was soooo much more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWQT4dlkP6M

The KI planet isnt even located in space, it is located in the inner part of heaven and hell. The blast was so powerful that it was seen in space with a good view of it. That wasnt just a mere planet exploding blast. Now, if you are referring to kid buu, the first blast that kid buu shot was a planet destroying blast, which Vegeta rejected. Since we know Vegeta rejected said blast, and easily at that, why would buu come back with another planet destroying blast knowing that Vegeta easily deflected the other. Why would Buu take so much time on the second blast that you state is only planet destroying and his first planet destroying blast took no time. You want to know why? The reason why is because "it was more than a planet destroying attack". You have nothing to suggest Goku being unable to tank a planet destroying attack. Hell, after buu destroyed earth, Goku had confidence that the Z fighters could have survived the attack.

😐 I never said that Freeza was near death because of the planet destruction. I said he survived the planets destruction while being near death. When Gokou wouldn't have survived it, and he was almost perfectly fine. Putting Freeza's durability above SSJ Namek Saga Gokou even though Gokou was more powerful.

Originally posted by Kento
😐 I never said that Freeza was near death because of the planet destruction. I said he survived the planets destruction while being near death. When Gokou wouldn't have survived it, and he was almost perfectly fine. Putting Freeza's durability above SSJ Namek Saga Gokou even though Gokou was more powerful.

How do you know that Goku wouldnt have survived it?

Originally posted by carver9
How do you know that Goku wouldnt have survived it?