those feats dont prove he has Goku fightign speed, plus i dont think the sun would hurt Goku, for one on the way to Namek Gokus ship collided witha star many times larger than the sun, The sunw as touchign gouk and all goku did was yell" aaahhh i need a tan but this is rediculas" !! haha and that was Pre-Ssj Goku !!
Plus if you count GT, Nova shenron can make his body hotter than the sun!! and when gouk gokus ssj4 he says Novas heat wont do anythign more than make him break a sweat !!
Goku can't even survive without oxygen to breathe. Even if his body could survive the heat, gravity, and radiation of the sun (which is highly, highly unlikely), he would die from his lungs being filled with million - degree plasma.
Brad, you need to understand what "canon" means. If something is non - canon, it doesn't count. It never happened. It's no more usable than fanfiction.
DBZ characters are not anywhere near lightspeed, except the ones who can teleport (and that's not really speed, anyway). The best speed feat that is quantifiable is Gotenks flying to Buu's house somewhere else on the planet in 1 minute. If we generously assume that it was on the other side of the earth, then he can move at about mach 1000. That's very impressive, but not near lightspeed. Even at the very end of the manga, Super Buu w/Gohan absorbed (the second strongest character in the entire series) took so long to fly to Goku and Vegeta's location somewhere else on earth that Goku, Vegeta, and Baba had time to have an entire conversation where Goku convinced Vegeta to fuse with him before Buu got there. Light can circle the earth over 7 times in one second.
They didn't fuse until afterwards, but they agreed to beforehand, they was a long conversation, I believe it went:
Goku asks Vegeta what he's doing here
Vegeta says he was given a 1 - day pass
Baba says that although they are a long way off from Buu's position (whatever that is supposed to mean) she doesn't want to stick around, so she leaves
Goku explains the Potara fusion to Vegeta
Vegeta refuses
Goku keeps trying to convince him
Vegeta still refuses
Goku goes into a long speech that finally convinces him
Buu Arrives (after flying towards them at full speed the whole time all of this was going on)
There's a bit of a scramble to get the earrings while Buu is attacking them, then they fuse
Originally posted by BradBalboa
those feats dont prove he has Goku fightign speed, plus i dont think the sun would hurt Goku, for one on the way to Namek Gokus ship collided witha star many times larger than the sun, The sunw as touchign gouk and all goku did was yell" aaahhh i need a tan but this is rediculas" !! haha and that was Pre-Ssj Goku !!Plus if you count GT, Nova shenron can make his body hotter than the sun!! and when gouk gokus ssj4 he says Novas heat wont do anythign more than make him break a sweat !!
Why are you always bringing up the fighting speed bull-crap? Can you tell us how fast they were fighting (it's not light speed that's for sure)? Most of the time they just use their speed to close the distance (they use their flight speed to get close to each other), which is what is shown in the manga when people couldn't see them, but they were able to be seen in most of their fights by people when they stop to hit each other. If normal people can see them, even if it's just for a few seconds, than Sentry shouldn't have any trouble seeing them or hitting them.
GT isn't cannon. But in DBZ, Goku gets hurt by energy blasts, which I don't think is as hot as the sun (especially since Freeza and him was dodging lava back on Namek) and he's for the most part, avoiding them, unless his power level is greater than his opponent. That's another thing, Goku's has always been up against beings who use ki, Sentry's powers are completely different from what Goku is normally up against.
Originally posted by Endless Mike...well the title says anime fights, and ssj4 goku is canon to the anime
Goku can't even survive without oxygen to breathe. Even if his body could survive the heat, gravity, and radiation of the sun (which is highly, highly unlikely), he would die from his lungs being filled with million - degree plasma.Brad, you need to understand what "canon" means. If something is non - canon, it doesn't count. It never happened. It's no more usable than fanfiction.
DBZ characters are not anywhere near lightspeed, except the ones who can teleport (and that's not really speed, anyway). The best speed feat that is quantifiable is Gotenks flying to Buu's house somewhere else on the planet in 1 minute. If we generously assume that it was on the other side of the earth, then he can move at about mach 1000. That's very impressive, but not near lightspeed. Even at the very end of the manga, Super Buu w/Gohan absorbed (the second strongest character in the entire series) took so long to fly to Goku and Vegeta's location somewhere else on earth that Goku, Vegeta, and Baba had time to have an entire conversation where Goku convinced Vegeta to fuse with him before Buu got there. Light can circle the earth over 7 times in one second.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...well the title says anime fights, and ssj4 goku is canon to the anime
We use the original canon for each character unless otherwise specified. When someone says "Spider-Man vs. whoever" do you assume it's the movie or cartoon Spider-Man instead of the comic version?
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It doesn't matter what forum it's in unless said forum has a rule that says that the canon versions aren't supposed to be used
but the anime is a kind of canon which contains gt as a part of the canon story line as well as the movies (I know it may not seem like a ll of the movies are canon but remember when some characters have multiple comics its hard to place all of the m in the continuity, like superman/batman)
its the same as animated superman and comic superman, in a cartoon thread we'd use him and in a comic one we'd use the comic version (unless otherwise specified) both are canon version of the characters though.
goku could fire off a kamehameha (which could possibly move at light speed) at sentry, it would do considerable damage since in the anime it definently is able to destroy a planet and MAYBE more
Originally posted by Endless Mikeno im saying all the dragonball animes (this includes gt and possibly the movies) are canon to the anime, and seeing that this is an anime forum and thread started specified anime fighters wouldt it be logical to use the anime?
So, in other words, the anime is canon to itself, GT is canon to itself, and the movies are each canon to themselves.So what?
Fanfiction is canon to itself, does that mean it should be used too?
Kakashi (Naruto) vs. Rogue (X-Men Evolution)
The ninja who copies techniques by seeing them vs. the mutant who copies powers by touching someone.
Rogue is at her peak level when she had access to all the powers we see in these vids.
She also has the ability to teleport instantly, shoot optic blasts from her eyes, manipulate the weather and she can make copies of herself.
Plus some more.
Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no im saying all the dragonball animes (this includes gt and possibly the movies) are canon to the anime, and seeing that this is an anime forum and thread started specified anime fighters wouldt it be logical to use the anime?
In case you didn't notice, the forum is called "anime/manga".
Furthermore, the movies are the most inconsistent things ever. Let's just take the first one for now, Dead Zone. Goku has his pole (I forget the name, nyoi-bo or something) when in canon he left it connecting Karin tower to Kami's sanctuary. Goku, Picollo, and Krillin are fighting together to get back Gohan, but in canon, Picollo first meets Gohan when Raditz had captured him. They simply don't fit anywhere in the timeline. GT is even more inconsistent, and it wasn't even based on material created by Toriyama.
Originally posted by Endless MikeWell the anime makes Dead Zone canon to the series because of the Garlic Jr. Saga. And GT is canon to the anime also as it begins ten years after Z ends even if GT isn't canon if the manga is involved. Bio Broli also makes Broli canon to the series since 18 is trying to collect the money Satan owed her from letting him win the tournament. Though the three Broli movies, and Dead Zone are the only ones that have any remote dealings with the anime canon. Though Bojack can easily take place as can the movie where Chibi Trunks get his sword. A lot is confusing when it comes to timelines but they've had stuff in them to make them canon to the anime.
In case you didn't notice, the forum is called "anime/manga".Furthermore, the movies are the most inconsistent things ever. Let's just take the first one for now, Dead Zone. Goku has his pole (I forget the name, nyoi-bo or something) when in canon he left it connecting Karin tower to Kami's sanctuary. Goku, Picollo, and Krillin are fighting together to get back Gohan, but in canon, Picollo first meets Gohan when Raditz had captured him. They simply don't fit anywhere in the timeline. GT is even more inconsistent, and it wasn't even based on material created by Toriyama.