Maybe Im missing Something...

Anything is possible but not probable. In WIlls character will definitely changed but in a negative way like savvysparrow mentioned. His jelousy will blind him and deny the fact that Is Jack that Liz wants.

I believe, maybe just maybe, that liz will do something for Jack or vice versa that will make William realize that these to are willing to do anything for eachother and that thier destiny lies with eachother to be together. IMO

Like the plot outline said for AWE: There will be alot of betraying and yada yada yada we already know! lol There was also betrayels in cotbp and dmc-they are pirates hello not monks.

We're certainly gonna face some backstabbers, but its all about being pirates. Will has certainly done it and he will in AWE. I believe IMO that Will will do something very drastic maybe not deadly, hopefully, but something that you kind of wouldnt expect of him. Its al about teh process of changing the characters. Like what happened to Jack, you dont expect him to fall for a girl and sacrifice himself for liz and not for the ship. Thats something that the audience did not expect and i definitley hit the billion mark.

I don't understand, what do you mean when you said, they have feelings for each other, are they for the right reasons? I don't get it.

The writers have implied pretty heavily that the feelings are intense on Jack's side, and there is a lot of evidence to support that. But they've yet to mention Elizabeth's feelings on the subject, other than that she's confused. No one has said if Will and Elizabeth's feelings for each other are for the right reasons, either, which is part of the beauty of the triangle, because it literally can go both ways.

And I agree, the writers have had this idea in mind for a while. They've had the idea of the love pyramid in mind as far back as the rough draft of the first movie.

So they knew how they wanted to resolve it when they started the trilogy. That doesn't mean, however that external factors aren't involved. They may not have been certain of the popularity of the character pairings when they wrote DMC. Disney also has a heavy say in how things are written. They're out to write an ending that is both satisfying, and as cynical as it sounds, to make as much money as possible.

Originally posted by Mistypirate
I don't understand, what do you mean when you said, they have feelings for each other, are they for the right reasons? I don't get it.

What I meant was. if Liz was falling for Jack beacuse he was the dirty, older, pirate type that daddy wouldnt approve of. Falling for a guy just to rebel. Or if Jack only showed enotions towards Liz to piss off Will.

Or, more likely, she was interested in Jack because they're more compatiable with each other in terms of intelligence, and the way that they view the world? She already rebelled against what her father in the first movie by agreeing to marry Will.

And Jack can do plenty of other things to piss off Will than to show inclinations towards Elizabeth.

I was just using those situations as examples of what the 'wrong reasons' would be.

Disney isnt dumb. Its like the Donald Trump of all cartoons. It surely noticed on what hit the billion mark. It was the satisfaction that Jack got the girl, apart fromt that the movie was just AWESOME.

first movie:
Will kisses Elzibeth...it certainly didnt hit the billlion mark. Never surpirsed us that WIll was gonna get the chick.

second movie:
Elizabeth kisses Jack...BOOM Billion mark. Sealed that movie with a golden button.

Im pretty sure Ted/Terry and Disney figured that out. That what made the box sky rocketing was the fact that the audinece was pleased to see jack finally get what he wants(hero gets the girl) and excepting liz in his life. We rather see Jack get the girl bc hes ahppy with her than Jack get STDS from Gissele and Scarlett.

Originally posted by Pirates life fo
What I meant was. if Liz was falling for Jack beacuse he was the dirty, older, pirate type that daddy wouldnt approve of. Falling for a guy just to rebel. Or if Jack only showed enotions towards Liz to piss off Will.

yes, but the movie doesn't suggest that, I remember reading something from the writers that stated, that Jack wanted to be as close and as far as possible from Elizabeth. He was having those emotions right before he met Will in the cannibal island. So how could he have those feelings to pissed off Will's character, if they weren't even close. And as for Liz she did it in movie 1, IMO she wanted to be w William because he supposedly was a pirate. Daddy wasn't happy at the end of 1 after all he was a blacksmith.

And I was using my examples to show that those examples don't work with the story. They're attracted to each other, more than likely not for the wrong reasons, but for the right.

They have a very similar nature, and both have a habit of seeing each other's inner qualities, both the good and the bad.

They dont have to work with the story. I wasnt using them because I thought they worked. They were simply examples. I could have used Dick and Jane instead of Jack and Liz.

i agree misty..well my fingers hurt from typing too much and my eyes are all crossed from reading too much lol. Im running off to bed. Love all my chikis in here!
KEEP THE FAITH XOXO

You could say the same for Will and Liz. They should be togther for this or that reason and they shouldnt be together also for whatever reason.

I must admit that you are making this discussion rather interesting 😄

"Fate intervenes" simple as that lol im too lazy to expand that theory lol buenas noches
KEEP THE FAITH xoxo

That's what Im trying to do. Play devil's advocate. All of you may be right. You may also be wrong. I might not even know how it ends if a new copy of the script has revisions that change everything.

Originally posted by Chiki Mina
i agree misty..well my fingers hurt from typing too much and my eyes are all crossed from reading too much lol. Im running off to bed. Love all my chikis in here!
KEEP THE FAITH XOXO

Ok chiki you have agood nite girl or good morning.. 🙂
xoxoxo

All I was wanting to know is what die hard proof was there that pointed to who Liz would end up with. I write pretty much the same stuff on a Will/Liz biased board. And both groups think that it's going to be there way and that's it.

Originally posted by Pirates life fo
That's what Im trying to do. Play devil's advocate. All of you may be right. You may also be wrong. I might not even know how it ends if a new copy of the script has revisions that change everything.

I'm aware that the movie can go in a million directions, but there are to many symbolisms in the movie that cannot be denied.

Ok an example of what might change Jack. His feelings for Liz came about before he died on the Pearl to the Krakken. Who is to say that when he is rescued and brought back he wont be a changed man and not give a damn about Liz?

Not every one thinks it's their way or the high way. A lot of us would begrudge the W/E ending if it made sense with the overrall development of the story. (There are fewer people on the other side of the line that would be so generous).

As I've said, it can go both ways, depending on a person's bias. I'm more in the middle in that I don't see how you can loose when there's Johnny Depp on one side and Orlando Bloom on the other. It's win win.

There's no die hard proof. If there were die hard proof, none of us would be here on the discussion board. But, there are the facts, there are the symbols and the rest is pretty acurate interpretation.