Dark Phoenix Vs. Darkseid

Yes but you've provided no proof that DS himself moves faster than she. So it's thought>thought+Light.

And DS has been taken down by less than DP also, like Superman. And didn't Batman once take on DS using tech?

He got in a lucky punch using miracle man's tech.

I think the OB can penetrate her sheilds the way laser blasts have in the past on more then one occasion.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
He got in a lucky punch using miracle man's tech.

I think the OB can penetrate her sheilds the way laser blasts have in the past on more then one occasion.

And I think her own blast could deflect the OE just like Supes heat vision has done.

It does matter. Bats got one shot in that bearly even fazed DS.

The OB are faster then her blasts. She shoots fire which does not move at the speed of light.

Sorry your having such a hard time with this but he takes it.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
It does matter. Bats got one shot in that bearly even fazed DS.

The OB are faster then her blasts. She shoots fire which does not move at the speed of light.

Sorry your having such a hard time with this but he takes it.

Lol...phoenix shoots fire...

The OB are stronger then her blast, her blast burns off flesh, his vaporizes.

And Darkseid was distracted with Supes when Bats landed his "punch"

Plus the OB can move around her blast and still tag her.

Anything else?

Originally posted by Ext@nt
The OB are stronger then her blast, her blast burns off flesh, his vaporizes.

And Darkseid was distracted with Supes when Bats landed his "punch"

Plus the OB can move around her blast and still tag her.

Anything else?

Really too bad it hasnt defleted the weaker beam attacks from ships that have wounded and killed it's host in the past.

Supes is also invulnerable Phoenix is far from.

Anything else?

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Really too bad it hasnt defleted the weaker beam attacks from ships that have wounded and killed it's host in the past.

Supes is also invulnerable Phoenix is far from.

Anything else?

Supes has had his ass handed to him as well, being pushed into the source wall as I recall.

And Darkseid was trying to match his beams with Superman's if he wanted to he couldve made the OB go around them liek he has on so many other occasions.

Phoenix has died and been wounded by blasts of far less intesity on more then one ocassion.

Anything else?

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Supes has had his ass handed to him as well, being pushed into the source wall as I recall.

And Darkseid was trying to match his beams with Superman's if he wanted to he couldve made the OB go around them liek he has on so many other occasions.

Phoenix has died and been wounded by blasts of far less intesity on more then one ocassion.

Anything else?

Don't bother it wont convince me.

Phoenix wins.

In your opinion. Sorry but shes been killed and wounded by shots from starships far less powerful then the OB.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The fact that Bats was able to tag him means that he probably doesn't move faster than she does.

Batman punching him started the fight, though. As soon as he retaliated, Batman was unable to dodge, attack, or do anything other than get destroyed. Although I'm not saying Darkseid is faster.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So he launches the blast while she puts up her shields, that means that his blast hit her shields. Or, he fire's his blast while she launches her own, and even if his are really close to her, her blast will deflect it.

Again, this depends how much of the Phoenix Force she's weilding at the time. In the original story, Jean had a tusssle with Firelord which, while she held the advantage in it, was of decent length. She also lost to Magneto. OTOH, Rachel with the Phoenix Force beat a weakened Galactus after a good fight. If Jean is accessing the FULL Phoenix Force, of course she wins. Otherwise, it depends how much she's accessing at the time.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
In your opinion. Sorry but shes been killed and wounded by shots from starships far less powerful then the OB.

Originally posted by Jimmy-Chan
Again, this depends how much of the Phoenix Force she's weilding at the time. In the original story, Jean had a tusssle with Firelord which, while she held the advantage in it, was of decent length. She also lost to Magneto. OTOH, Rachel with the Phoenix Force beat a weakened Galactus after a good fight. If Jean is accessing the FULL Phoenix Force, of course she wins. Otherwise, it depends how much she's accessing at the time.

Well for this particular fight we're talking about Dark Phoenix. That was the stage when the Phoenix Force itself was pretty much in control, had lost all restraint and was doing things like eating stars. I agree that the 'regular' Phoenix that took on Firelord would probably lose from lack of knowledge about her powers, but DP is a whole different story.

Originally posted by bigbran
In my opinion? What are you implying with this?
So you think that DP is just going to stand in front of the OE, and just let it hit her?
Plus, what the hell is it going to do anyway, since Darky is going to be focused on erasing her? Does essential to the universe mean anything to you?
Does a shield mean nothing to you?

We;ve been over all of this already and you know it, so why are you bringing up poitns that uif you read over this thread I've adressed already.

Originally posted by Ext@nt
We;ve been over all of this already and you know it, so why are you bringing up poitns that uif you read over this thread I've adressed already.

So, tell me, how when Darkseid is going to try and erase her, is he going to kill her? Is she just going to let him hit her? She's bonded to a damn abstract like character. Is she not going to think of even putting up a defense?