Originally posted by Juntai
There's actually a lot of differences they cut out of the cheaper system from what I understand, such as HDMI support for example.
That was pretty much it. That was the only major difference. Now it's not issue since both systems have it now.
The 600 dollar model is redundant now except for it's larger storage space. Which I'm not spending an extra 100 for....
Originally posted by Draco69
The Wii is about a third more powerful. It's not much. And I really hate that it lacks current-gen technology. The wifi is nice though...Exactly. The reason I don't like the Xbox is they specialize in shooting games. Not to say they're bad games but I really don't like shooting games....
The PS3 won't sell as much in the first quarter. But the price will go down. Simple economics. We won't see who's the dominant system until about three years. Just like the last two generations. The first and second PS2 had expensive prices and crappy launch titles....but they still won in the end.
The lack of HDMI and true high def 720p or 1080i is a turn off.... 480p looks good on my 52 inch hdtv but there is no reason that with the power that system supports higher resolutions aren't an option.
I understand most people are still on Standard def but future proofing something by simply adding a higher res shouldn't kill them for about 90% of games.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes, people love Nintendo's first party launches, but they need more in the third party area.
Exactly. It's the same that happened with the Gamecube. It was swimming and floundering. It only made money when they had their flagship games out...hell that's the only reason people played the Cube at all.
Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Originally posted by Draco69Probably not, it seems to be the same thing again and again.
Exactly. It's the same that happened with the Gamecube. It was swimming and floundering. It only made money when they had their flagship games out...hell that's the only reason people played the Cube at all.Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
The lack of HDMI and true high def 720p or 1080i is a turn off.... 480p looks good on my 52 inch hdtv but there is no reason that with the power that system supports higher resolutions aren't an option.I understand most people are still on Standard def but future proofing something by simply adding a higher res shouldn't kill them for about 90% of games.
True. That annoyed me alot. I have a HDTV too. 480p is okay...but I would rather have Link in 720p....
Originally posted by Draco69true if zelda goes elsewere so would i
Exactly. It's the same that happened with the Gamecube. It was swimming and floundering. It only made money when they had their flagship games out...hell that's the only reason people played the Cube at all.Hopefully they learned their lesson.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
And we only saw him with basic knowledge of his powers, and he punked Thor, which we consider around Superman level on the forum. My point is have we ever saw Spiderman at the established limit that the thread specifies?
Sure. We know that he has complete knowledge of his powers. We also know that the Uni power amps the person up 50x. Sorry, but Spider-man x50 +blasts, transmutation, and telepathy ain't gonna beat Superman.
If you don't agree... fine. But I'm pretty much done debating this topic considering the Spider-man supporters can't give a reason why he would win this.
Originally posted by batdude123can u say with absolute certaintiy that superman can win? no you cant you dont know what would happen the best way to determin the fight is off of knowledge of how each character thinks and fights
Sure. We know that he has complete knowledge of his powers. We also know that the Uni power amps the person up 50x. Sorry, but Spider-man x50 +blasts, transmutation, and telepathy ain't gonna beat Superman.If you don't agree... fine. But I'm pretty much done debating this topic considering the Spider-man supporters can't give a reason why he would win this.
Originally posted by Validusthe wii si comeing out this year correct?... by the way has anyone ever heard of a game called rumble fish?
You would think so but the complaints about Wii and the gimmick talk is the same way people thought of the DS and that thing is killing the PSP in software and hardware (sales and quality).
Originally posted by Validus
You would think so but the complaints about Wii and the gimmick talk is the same way people thought of the DS and that thing is killing the PSP in software and hardware (sales and quality).
Exactly why I'm waiting. I trust Nintendo will have an ace up their sleeves...and we'll see.
My DS Lite gets tons of play and my PSP is pretty damn dusty....if it wasn't for all the homebrew stuff on it, I would have sold it long ago.
Originally posted by Validus
You would think so but the complaints about Wii and the gimmick talk is the same way people thought of the DS and that thing is killing the PSP in software and hardware (sales and quality).
That's because the PSP has sucky games, crappy ports and Sony didn't capitalize on it...at all.
Hell, only 2 PSP games come out what every three months? LOL.
A gimmick can only carry a system so far. Which is why I believe the Wii doesn't have capital longivity.
Now, they're all in the same ballpark. But three years from now? When Final Fantasy XIII looks eerily like real people and Halo Wars looks and plays like a movie come to life? The Wii will pale in comparision since it's technology simply can't match it. The controller will quickly lose its appeal when once you've done everything with it.
Also, people like to RELAX when you play games. Not wave your arm around wildly trying to kill a dragon. It's exhausting and people will prefer the controller you can just move with your fingers....
I'm only saying that it's more of uncertain than a clear winner btw.
Originally posted by batdude123No, it amps his strength up 50x, it never said anything else about the Spectrum of his powers. You only need one really good power to beat Superman, he's proven resistant and not immune to those powers you have shown. This isn't saying that one wins, but that it is impossible to draw a valid conclusion based off something that we haven't seen much of.
Sure. We know that he has complete knowledge of his powers. We also know that the Uni power amps the person up 50x. Sorry, but Spider-man x50 +blasts, transmutation, and telepathy ain't gonna beat Superman.
Originally posted by batdude123That's fine, and I'm not really a "supporter" of either, I just hate how most Superman threads go (or any with a more popular character, particularly when it's DC) wins because they simply "have more showings". Superman has tons of showings and has fluctuated from many writers.
If you don't agree... fine. But I'm pretty much done debating this topic considering the Spider-man supporters can't give a reason why he would win this.
The supporters have given reasons. But the Superman supporters for the most part just ignore it and post another feat from the respec thread. He's Superman *drools*, is basically what the argument is. Honestly things were more reasonable until the rest of the supes supporters jumped on the thread which made me not want to post. It's the basic premise that Cosmic Spiderman can't take Superman, because Superman is written to surpass his limits in a comic book. The problem is that this isn't solely a comic book, but a forum. I find it highly contradictory that people can use Flash at his prowress that he never shows in a comic, but then use Supes like he'd never be in a forum in the same thread.
Couldn't Spiderman start to absorb Solar energy directly from it's source? Could he not turn supes into something with the best of his abilities? Did he not take Thors hammer from him with ease? I'm sorry that this character has had a very short time in comicdom, but that does not make him a loser, just not necessarily a victor.
Originally posted by ValidusI believe that was more based on the fact that Sony didn't bother actually focusing on games for a gaming system. Even AC had a point there. I like the other functions, but the games make the system in the end.
You would think so but the complaints about Wii and the gimmick talk is the same way people thought of the DS and that thing is killing the PSP in software and hardware (sales and quality).
The only one I would get was Alpha Max, but I already pretty much had the same game on my Playstation anyways.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I believe that was more based on the fact that Sony didn't bother actually focusing on games for a gaming system. Even AC had a point there. I like the other functions, but the games make the system in the end.The only one I would get was Alpha Max, but I already pretty much had the same game on my Playstation anyways.
I can't think of a single original PSP game that wasn't a port....except maybe that Daxter game....
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I believe that was more based on the fact that Sony didn't bother actually focusing on games for a gaming system. Even AC had a point there. I like the other functions, but the games make the system in the end.The only one I would get was Alpha Max, but I already pretty much had the same game on my Playstation anyways.
Now the PS3 obviously won't have a lack of good games but I do think a lot of the new customers Nintendo picked up with DS will be willing to try out a Wii, especially with that price difference.
But Draco you have a point about the waggle wand. I can't see any extended game sessions going on with Wii.
Originally posted by ValidusThe fans are won over at this point. Nintendo will pretty much have a distinct advantage with portables because it's Nintendo, and has rules for years. It was the same thing with the game gear. You got a car adaptor, a normal adaptor, and people still wouldn't play it.
But even the good PSP games aren't selling. A cooking game for DS recently outsold Tekken for PSP. That's pretty insane.Now the PS3 obviously won't have a lack of good games but I do think a lot of the new customers Nintendo picked up with DS will be willing to try out a Wii, especially with that price difference.
But Draco you have a point about the waggle wand. I can't see any extended game sessions going on with Wii.
Originally posted by Validus
But even the good PSP games aren't selling. A cooking game for DS recently outsold Tekken for PSP. That's pretty insane.Now the PS3 obviously won't have a lack of good games but I do think a lot of the new customers Nintendo picked up with DS will be willing to try out a Wii, especially with that price difference.
But Draco you have a point about the waggle wand. I can't see any extended game sessions going on with Wii.
Oh yeah. Alot of girls in my school are playing the DS.
Nintendo is trying the Ipod formula to branch out to new gamers. Whether or not that will work is testament to it's success.
If the Wii becomes the new Ipod than Nintendo has it in the basket.
If not, it'll still do well but it won't be able to keep up with the PS3 and Xbox.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The supporters have given reasons. But the Superman supporters for the most part just ignore it and post another feat from the respec thread. He's Superman *drools*, is basically what the argument is. Honestly things were more reasonable until the rest of the supes supporters jumped on the thread which made me not want to post. It's the basic premise that Cosmic Spiderman can't take Superman, because Superman is written to surpass his limits in a comic book. The problem is that this isn't solely a comic book, but a forum. I find it highly contradictory that people can use Flash at his prowress that he never shows in a comic, but then use Supes like he'd never be in a forum in the same thread.Couldn't Spiderman start to absorb Solar energy directly from it's source? Could he not turn supes into something with the best of his abilities? Did he not take Thors hammer from him with ease? I'm sorry that this character has had a very short time in comicdom, but that does not make him a loser, just not necessarily a victor.
Therein lies the problem with this thread.
90% of the scans I've posted come from my own personal collection and they relate quite well to the topic at hand.
The debate is also with Superman at uber levels. Will Spidey suddenly become immune to hotter than the sun HV, planet shattering blows, ftl speeds and everything else Superman has brought to the table?
Would a Cosmic Spidey be more powerful than the Eradicator or Blackrock?
Would his speed match up with Supermans, or his strength and durability even 50x over his normal level?