I don't know how Supes matches up to Nova but....
Nova put Captain Universe down with one blast
All of his Energy was discharged back into the Universe
Nova is near Silver Surfer levels.
But had Captain Universe died, ALL Life in the Universe would have died aswell.
You see he is the very "Essence of the Universe"
Originally posted by Draco69
Oh yeah. Alot of girls in my school are playing the DS.Nintendo is trying the Ipod formula to branch out to new gamers. Whether or not that will work is testament to it's success.
If the Wii becomes the new Ipod than Nintendo has it in the basket.
If not, it'll still do well but it won't be able to keep up with the PS3 and Xbox.
My gf is hooked to her DS... Nintendogs rules her life.
cosmic spiderman would only come in a moment where the earth needs captain universe. But with superman around... it would never get that far. therefore this fight would never happen. AND IF IT DID all spiderman gets is a power level equivelant to superman with the ability to control some things in the universe. Superman still beats him. According to Infinite Crisis, Superman IS the center of the universe. Captain Universe cant stop his own center. Superman WINS!!!!
bwahahahahaha
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
No, it amps his strength up 50x, it never said anything else about the Spectrum of his powers. You only need one really good power to beat Superman, he's proven resistant and not immune to those powers you have shown. This isn't saying that one wins, but that it is impossible to draw a valid conclusion based off something that we haven't seen much of.
Never said he was IMMUNE. However, red sunlight and kryptonite aren't good enough means to take Superman down nowadays. You need more. Eclipso can tell you about that one...
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
That's fine, and I'm not really a "supporter" of either, I just hate how most Superman threads go (or any with a more popular character, particularly when it's DC) wins because they simply "have more showings". Superman has tons of showings and has fluctuated from many writers.
That's fine, however we're simply pointing out that he has defeated many characters above CS, and consistently at that.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
The supporters have given reasons.
Which have been refuted by scans.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But the Superman supporters for the most part just ignore it and post another feat from the respec thread. He's Superman *drools*, is basically what the argument is. Honestly things were more reasonable until the rest of the supes supporters jumped on the thread which made me not want to post. It's the basic premise that Cosmic Spiderman can't take Superman, because Superman is written to surpass his limits in a comic book. The problem is that this isn't solely a comic book, but a forum. I find it highly contradictory that people can use Flash at his most prowerful that he never shows in a comic, but then use Supes like he'd never be in a forum in the same thread.
No. We're actually giving reasons as to why he would win this fight. The reason why posts have been ignored recently is because lando went on a babbling tangent that essentially meant nothing to the actual debate. He nothing left to offer, therefore it was ignored. 😬 Superman is actually CONSISTENTLY shown to the level we're portraying here. Hell, look through the 39 pages of the Superman Respect thread. It's filled with them.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Couldn't Spiderman start to absorb Solar energy directly from it's source? Could he not turn supes into something with the best of his abilities? Did he not take Thors hammer from him with ease? I'm sorry that this character has had a very short time in comicdom, but that does not make him a loser, just not necessarily a victor.
Spider-man would have a hell of a time trying to absorb Superman's solar energy. People have tried this many times but he repowers himself extremely fast. Red sunlight essentially does the same thing, but he has tons of feats while he's under a red sun that are amazing. Spider-man isn't going to win that way.
Transmutation? I doubt that would work considering he's resisted magical transmutation from Blaze who is extremely powerful. Also, to transmutate it is implied that there is a requirement to break down his molecular structure. Ain't gonna happen.
Hell, Magneto has been able to f*ck with Mjolnir while Thor had it in hand:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
That doesn't mean he'd beat Superman.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't know how Supes matches up to Nova but....Nova put Captain Universe down with one blast
All of his Energy was discharged back into the Universe
Nova is near Silver Surfer levels.
But had Captain Universe died, ALL Life in the Universe would have died aswell.
You see he is the very "Essence of the Universe"
Wow. This further solidifies the validity of this then.
Blackrock, being powered by MILLIONS of sources feels the need to piss off Superman.... and ends up quite sorry for it. The Blackrock is very similar to the Unipower even in the way it choses it's hosts.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Therein lies the problem with this thread.
90% of the scans I've posted come from my own personal collection and they relate quite well to the topic at hand.The debate is also with Superman at uber levels. Will Spidey suddenly become immune to hotter than the sun HV, planet shattering blows, ftl speeds and everything else Superman has brought to the table?
Would a Cosmic Spidey be more powerful than the Eradicator or Blackrock?
Would his speed match up with Supermans, or his strength and durability even 50x over his normal level?
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Originally posted by AvalonofthewindSeeing as I can't actually put an amount on the extent, then you would know the answer.
Therein lies the problem with this thread.
90% of the scans I've posted come from my own personal collection and they relate quite well to the topic at hand.The debate is also with Superman at uber levels. Will Spidey suddenly become immune to hotter than the sun HV, planet shattering blows, ftl speeds and everything else Superman has brought to the table?
Would a Cosmic Spidey be more powerful than the Eradicator or Blackrock?
Would his speed match up with Supermans, or his strength and durability even 50x over his normal level?
Originally posted by batdude123One brief question, if none of this stuff works, how does Surfer beat him? A quick note on the Mjolnir feat, I believe he transmuted that (though I'd have to get the scan), he made it to work against thor. Mjonhir is impressive.
Never said he was IMMUNE. However, red sunlight and kryptonite aren't good enough means to take Superman down nowadays. You need more. Eclipso can tell you about that one...That's fine, however we're simply pointing out that he has defeated many characters above CS, and consistently at that.
Which have been refuted by scans.
No. We're actually giving reasons as to why he would win this fight. The reason why posts have been ignored recently is because lando went on a babbling tangent that essentially meant nothing to the actual debate. He nothing left to offer, therefore it was ignored. 😬 Superman is actually CONSISTENTLY shown to the level we're portraying here. Hell, look through the 39 pages of the Superman Respect thread. It's filled with them.
Spider-man would have a hell of a time trying to absorb Superman's solar energy. People have tried this many times but he repowers himself extremely fast. Red sunlight essentially does the same thing, but he has tons of feats while he's under a red sun that are amazing. Spider-man isn't going to win that way.
Transmutation? I doubt that would work considering he's resisted magical transmutation from Blaze who is extremely powerful. Also, to transmutate it is implied that there is a requirement to break down his molecular structure. Ain't gonna happen.
Hell, Magneto has been able to f*ck with Mjolnir while Thor had it in hand:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpgThat doesn't mean he'd beat Superman.
You'd have to ask demi about mags vs supes. I wouldn't see mags beating Supes, but putting a decent fight with his shield up. I'm not a magneto expert either. But either way the argument has reached it's circular point.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
One brief question, if none of this stuff works, how does Surfer beat him?
srug
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
A quick note on the Mjolnir feat, I believe he transmuted that (though I'd have to get the scan), he made it to work against thor. Mjonhir is impressive.
Yeah, and also Magneto has to polarize non-ferromagnetic metals on a molecular level as well.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
You'd have to ask demi about mags vs supes. I wouldn't see mags beating Supes, but putting a decent fight with his shield up. I'm not a magneto expert either. But either way the argument has reached it's circular point.
I don't need to ask Demi about what he thinks of the Superman/Mags fight. I know what Magneto is capable of... TRUST me. I do see him giving Superman a pretty good fight though.
Originally posted by batdude123
Never said he was IMMUNE. However, red sunlight and kryptonite aren't good enough means to take Superman down nowadays. You need more. Eclipso can tell you about that one...That's fine, however we're simply pointing out that he has defeated many characters above CS, and consistently at that.
Which have been refuted by scans.
No. We're actually giving reasons as to why he would win this fight. The reason why posts have been ignored recently is because lando went on a babbling tangent that essentially meant nothing to the actual debate. He nothing left to offer, therefore it was ignored. 😬 Superman is actually CONSISTENTLY shown to the level we're portraying here. Hell, look through the 39 pages of the Superman Respect thread. It's filled with them.
Spider-man would have a hell of a time trying to absorb Superman's solar energy. People have tried this many times but he repowers himself extremely fast. Red sunlight essentially does the same thing, but he has tons of feats while he's under a red sun that are amazing. Spider-man isn't going to win that way.
Transmutation? I doubt that would work considering he's resisted magical transmutation from Blaze who is extremely powerful. Also, to transmutate it is implied that there is a requirement to break down his molecular structure. Ain't gonna happen.
Hell, Magneto has been able to f*ck with Mjolnir while Thor had it in hand:
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpgThat doesn't mean he'd beat Superman.
Originally posted by lando005
babbling? all i've ben trying to tell you this whole time is that you cant judge the fight on feats alone
yes you can. Superman has been there and done that. Parrallyx anyone?
You have NO reasons for Spiderman beating Supes. Your just reading his skills and ASSUMING. Its would be an interesting fight but not a hard one to pick
Originally posted by chase elFEATS ALONE CANNOT MAKE UP AN ENTIRE FIGHT to think that would be to belive villians get beat the exact same way every time that is FAR from the case feats dont tell you how diffent characters react in a given situation the dont tell you if someone would take the same approch the plain out dont tell you how the fight would go down at best the give you a rough idea
yes you can. Superman has been there and done that. Parrallyx anyone?You have NO reasons for Spiderman beating Supes. Your just reading his skills and ASSUMING. Its would be an interesting fight but not a hard one to pick
Originally posted by batdude123I didn't mean it like that lol... I was just saying that someone else would be more certified. But then you did defend Mags against Iceman right? 😛
srugYeah, and also Magneto has to polarize non-ferromagnetic metals on a molecular level as well.
I don't need to ask Demi about what he thinks of the Superman/Mags fight. I know what Magneto is capable of... TRUST me. I do see him giving Superman a pretty good fight though.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
I didn't mean it like that lol... I was just saying that someone else would be more certified. But then you did defend Mags against Iceman right? 😛
Yeah, actually I did and for good reason. 😐 Magneto has shown control over ice before, and actually transmutated it as well. That along with his other powers make me believe he'd win. 🙂
Originally posted by chase el
so tell us why Spiderman would win then.... im still waiting. Feats right now are obviously weighing alot more then whatever reason you have.
