Originally posted by batdude123
Superman can absorb other energies besides yellow sun radiation. He absorbed bio-energy, and also absorbed the Mageddon warhead.
Not that it would even need to go there. Spidey isn't shrugging off hits from Superman anymore than a man could battle an elephant with an electric razor.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindAnd we know that how? Regardless simply "A beats B" style arguments mean little on a theoretical match. This is no different than saying Wolverine can beat someone like Magneto because he has. It simply isn't a logical standpoint. I'm sure Superman has been written to beat guys that are a bigger threat than Surfer, but that doesn't stop Surfer from winning in the forum due to what he brings in to the table. That is why A beats B arguments are fallacious, especially when a character is over or underwritten.
It's easy when Supes has beaten plenty of characters with C. Spideys powerset on higher levels.
Originally posted by AvalonofthewindRetrace my original stance in this thread. I declared this thread a bit of a misnomer no differently than Flash vs. Runner, DC supporters were saying Flash wins due to "Buried Allen" almost beating him, which made no sense.
If Spidey has such few showings...then why are you debating him?
Originally posted by batdude123It is just theory, but power cosmic would allow him to absorb more universal types of energy, whereas Supes would still be more at a limit.
Superman can absorb other energies besides yellow sun radiation. He absorbed bio-energy, and also absorbed the Mageddon warhead.
This is getting circular again not your fault of course, more of Cosmic Spiderman's fault.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And what proof do you have of that? How many times can YOU think of that he was KO'd by physical force?
Nice try. Are you saying that you somehow believe that Spidey is immune to physical force? Proof of that would be nice.
We see here that CU definitely isn't immune to simple energy blasts.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nice try. Are you saying that you somehow believe that Spidey is immune to physical force? Proof of that would be nice.We see here that CU definitely isn't immune to simple energy blasts.
And about the scan, that's not Cosmic Spiderman, it's Captain Universe, and you guys are the ones who said that feats shouldn't carry over. Besides, since when can Supes fire blast of power cosmic?
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well can you think of a single instance of him being KO'd by physical force?
I have no more scans that you do. Not that it matters. Spidey goes splat.
Spidey definitely isn't immune to physical assault.
Originally posted by darthgoober
And about the scan, that's not Cosmic Spiderman, it's Captain Universe, and you guys are the ones who said that feats shouldn't carry over. Besides, since when can Supes fire blast of power cosmic?
It's the same powerset and it shows force taking him down.
Either way, 50x Spidey is done for.
The proof and feats are all on Supermans side and there is nothing but poor speculation on Spideys side.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewindthere is no speculation cosmic spidy has ever sort of advantage over sups exlucing crappy weaknesses and pis
I have no more scans that you do. Not that it matters. Spidey goes splat.
Spidey definitely isn't immune to physical assault.It's the same powerset and it shows force taking him down.
Either way, 50x Spidey is done for.The proof and feats are all on Supermans side and there is nothing but poor speculation on Spideys side.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I have no more scans that you do. Not that it matters. Spidey goes splat.
Spidey definitely isn't immune to physical assault..
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind It's the same powerset and it shows force taking him down.
Either way, 50x Spidey is done for.The proof and feats are all on Supermans side and there is nothing but poor speculation on Spideys side. [/B]
And none of this changes the fact that all Spidey has to do is trap Supes in a Gold Kryptonite box to score a win.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well if you have no more evidence than I do, it seems that CS's durability would fall into the "Undiscovered" range, which means that assuming that Supes would score an easy KO, seems a little unreasonable.And none of this changes the fact that all Spidey has to do is trap Supes in a Gold Kryptonite box to score a win.
co-sign
Originally posted by darthgoober
Well if you have no more evidence than I do, it seems that CS's durability would fall into the "Undiscovered" range, which means that assuming that Supes would score an easy KO, seems a little unreasonable.
So we're back to there being no proof that Spidey is immune to physical attacks...and the standard bar is a 50x boost. That doesn't fare well for Peter with "standard" Supes nevermind a fully powered one.
Originally posted by darthgoober
You guys are the ones who said that feats don't carry over, not me. Now if you really want feats to carry over, THEN your going to have to deal with instances of Gladiator, and Surfer with the Uni Force also.And none of this changes the fact that all Spidey has to do is trap Supes in a Gold Kryptonite box to score a win.
Honestly, the unipowered Gladiator and Surfer weren't that impressive either.
It would still show that they are physically vulnerable.
There still isn't "Gold" kryptonite in current continuity and Spidey will be long KO'd anyway.
Originally posted by lando005
so far superman supporters are only relying on feats of past fights knoing that cosmic spidy hasnt been around to establish any feats.....yup great stratagy there takeing the cheap way out to validate superman winning
Isn't that what they always do when they can't logically win it???
😠 Superman wins cause I say so and your a dudie head!!!
Originally posted by lando005
so far superman supporters are only relying on feats of past fights knoing that cosmic spidy hasnt been around to establish any feats.....yup great stratagy there takeing the cheap way out to validate superman winning
Spidey fans are relying on their "word"
Yes...far better than feats and logic. ❌
Originally posted by batdude123
What I don't understand is how you guys think that'd work on Superman.
Uh huh, surrounds Superman with Adamantium fills up the space between Superman and the adamantium with kryptonite.
What I don't get is how folks are saying that kryptonite won't work on him or that Superman can phase through adamantium. Probably not so much.
Or Spiderman uses his webbers like guns almost and literally shoots Superman full of Kryptonite etc etc
